December 2003 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher?
by Christopher G D Tipper 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

> On Dec 8, 2003, at 2:33 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > > Am Montag, 08.12.03, um 18:20 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Bob > > Kerstetter: > >> ConTeXt is very attractive because of its detailed control, layers, > >> colors, few or no packages(!!!!!), magical developers, and on and on. > >> It can obvious produce PDF. Can it also produce HTML and Word from > >> the same document? > > > > The normal way to get both PDF and HTML is using a XML source. > > You know of ConTeXts native XML mode? > > AFAIK you can import XML or HTML into MS Office, too, so you need no > > real Word DOC output. > > Or perhaps there's an other XML to RTF/DOC Konverter... > > I know XML source should work, but at least for me, creating XML source > is unproductive. I work with a text editor and find writing this: > > ``Hello world,'' says HAL. > > much more productive than writing this: > > <p>“Hello world”</p>, says HAL. > > Maybe I'm missing something, but for writing, XML's markup requirements > -- which are invisible to field-based data entry screen -- are way too > intense for hand-editing. TeX source is much less verbose. It is easier > to create, proof (both visually and audibly), spell check > troubleshoot, etc. I have not seen an editor capable of doing XML > source in a productive manner, like (La)TeX with text editor. This is probably taboo, but surely the smart thing to do is start from Word, generate some XML with macros, and produce some HTML with stylesheets, some PDF with ConTeXt. BTW you can generate some simple Context with VB macros and hand-edit -- saves a whole load of mundane stuff. I can go from a web page to PDF in under 15 minutes using the Word macros I have for Context. Christopher --------------------------------o00o-------------------------------- “Since light travels faster than sound, isn’t that why some people appear bright until you hear them speak” — Steve Wright

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texexec --mptex final (fwd)
by David Arnold 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

All, I am compiling a metapost file with first line: input mp-tool I have installed the latest version of teTeX on Red Hat Linux 9. I am getting this output during compile: [darnold@ps-114a-2k final]$ texexec --mptex final TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 metapost to tex : final executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : tmpgraph output : dvips interface : en options : once current mode : none This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./tmpgraph.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2003.12.9 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : tmpgraph.top loaded (./tmpgraph.top specials : loading definition file dvi (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex <unprotect 3> <protect 3>) specials : tex loaded specials : loading definition file ps (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex) specials : tex,postscript loaded specials : loading definition file tr (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex) specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded ) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] systems : end file tmpgraph at line 181 ) Output written on tmpgraph.dvi (90 pages, 6452 bytes). Transcript written on tmpgraph.log. return code : 0 run time : 0 seconds dvi to metapost : final metapost : final format : metafun This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (final.mp (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/metapost/context/base/mp-tool.mp) [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] metafun 2003-12-9 7:38 ) 22 output files written: final.1 .. final.22 Transcript written on final.log. total run time : 2 seconds I am particularly concerned with these three lines: pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map Should I add something to updmap.cfg and run updmap? -- David Arnold College of the Redwoods. Mathematics Department 7351 Tompkins Hill Road Eureka, CA 95501 Office phone: 707-476-4222 Fax: 707-476-4424 Home page: http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/

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by David Arnold 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

confirm 901767 -- David Arnold College of the Redwoods. Mathematics Department 7351 Tompkins Hill Road Eureka, CA 95501 Office phone: 707-476-4222 Fax: 707-476-4424 Home page: http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/

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texexec --mptex final
by David Arnold 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

All, I am compiling a metapost file with first line: input mp-tool I have installed the latest version of teTeX on Red Hat Linux 9. I am getting this output during compile: [darnold@ps-114a-2k final]$ texexec --mptex final TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 metapost to tex : final executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : tmpgraph output : dvips interface : en options : once current mode : none This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./tmpgraph.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2003.12.9 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : tmpgraph.top loaded (./tmpgraph.top specials : loading definition file dvi (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex <unprotect 3> <protect 3>) specials : tex loaded specials : loading definition file ps (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex) specials : tex,postscript loaded specials : loading definition file tr (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex) specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded ) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] systems : end file tmpgraph at line 181 ) Output written on tmpgraph.dvi (90 pages, 6452 bytes). Transcript written on tmpgraph.log. return code : 0 run time : 0 seconds dvi to metapost : final metapost : final format : metafun This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (final.mp (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/metapost/context/base/mp-tool.mp) [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] metafun 2003-12-9 7:38 ) 22 output files written: final.1 .. final.22 Transcript written on final.log. total run time : 2 seconds I am particularly concerned with these three lines: pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map Should I add something to updmap.cfg and run updmap? -- David Arnold College of the Redwoods. Mathematics Department 7351 Tompkins Hill Road Eureka, CA 95501 Office phone: 707-476-4222 Fax: 707-476-4424 Home page: http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/

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TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=35000]
by Sytse Knypstra 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Hi, When using Hans' adaptation for typesetting bold math in a small example everything went fine. But when using it in a somewhat larger text I ran into the error: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=35000]. I remember a discussion a few months ago about this problem in MikTeX. Is there any solution in MikTeX available? Thanks, Sytse

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Context-mode for Emacs 21.3
by Boris Hollas 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hello, the contex.el from Berend de Boer does not work properly on Emacs 21.3. I assume this is because Emacs now has a fill algorithm that works independently of auctex. Is there another Context-mode for Emacs? Boris Hollas

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t-amsl and t-nath
by Boris Hollas 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hello! I tried the modules t-amsl and t-nath. This is what I noticed or have questions about: 1. The bracket for \cases{} is too small when t-nath is used, as in this example: \usemodule[amsl] \usemodule[nath] \starttext We denote by \startformula 1_{ij} = \cases{ 1 & if $(i,j) \in \cal E$\cr 0 & else} \stopformula the {\em indicator function} of event $(i,j) \in \cal E$. \stoptext Without modules amsl and nath the brackets have correct size, but \cal has no effect. 2. Without module amsl, the above example produces an error message. 3. Module amsl uses \mathBbd{} for the blackboard fonts. I'm not sure if this is used in AMS-Latex, however neither amsmath nor amssymb introduce this command. Instead, there's a command \mathbb{} in amssymb for the blackboard fonts. 4. $\mathBbd{N}_0$ doesn't produce ${\mb N}_0$. Boris Hollas

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\currenttime ?
by lohmannt 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hello all, I'm looking for a mechanism to insert the current time -- time of processing with texexec. Is there a similar command like \currentdate? Greetings Thomas Lohmann

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Re: footnote marker
by Steffen Wolfrum 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Hi, now I have got a quite good working solution with all individual settings... \setupbodyfont[4pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=55pt] \defineconversion[HowAboutIt][\ss] \setupfootnotes[style=italic,conversion=HowAboutIt,numbercommand=] \def\setfootnotebodyfont {\let\setfootnotebodyfont\relax \restoreglobalbodyfont \switchtobodyfont[8.5pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]} \starttext \input tufte \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } test {\bf bold test} {\it italic test}\footnote{normal footnote {\rm roman footnote} {\it italic footnote} {\bf bold footnote} normal footnote {\rm roman footnote} {\it italic footnote} {\bf bold footnote} normal footnote {\rm roman footnote} {\it italic footnote} {\bf bold footnote}} \stoptext ... BUT really annoying is this -- endless error messages; bodyfont : bodyfont xxxpt is defined (can be better done global) bodyfont : bodyfont xxxpt is defined (can be better done global) bodyfont : bodyfont xxxpt is defined (can be better done global) bodyfont : bodyfont xxxpt is defined (can be better done global) bodyfont : bodyfont xxxpt is defined (can be better done global) ... In documents with more than 1 page this is really horrible (thousands of error messages!!) How to avoid it?? Thank you, Steffen

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Re: footnote marker
by Steffen Wolfrum 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Hi Hans, Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > At 00:09 07/12/2003, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >while desperately working on footnote markers I found this email from 9 > >months ago. > >Is there in the meanwhile some news for a kind of "\setupfootnotemarker"? > > what exactly do you want to achieve? one can influence footnote markers > using the conversion key > > \setupfootnotes[conversion=set 2] > > and alike; one can create his/her own set if needed > > Hans For example I would like to have footnote marker SansSerif. If I would do it with the conversion key like this... \setupbodyfont[4pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=45pt] \definefont [FNfont][Sans at 10.5pt]\def\setfootnotebodyfont{\FNfont\setupinterlinespace[line=13pt]} \definefont [FNXfont][Serif at 10.5pt]\setupfootnotedefinition[style=\FNXfont] \defineconversion[HowAboutIt][\ss] \setupfootnotes[conversion=HowAboutIt,numbercommand=] \starttext \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } \stoptext ... then suddenly the number in front of the footnote text becomes 4pt. If I do it without conversion... \setupfootnotes[numbercommand=] ... then the number in front of the footnote text is 19.5 -- as defined in FNfont. That's why I felt the conversion key is not so reliable in this case. Steffen

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