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Context Journal: last call for articles / proofreaders wanted
by Henning Hraban Ramm 14 Jul '24

14 Jul '24

Hi all, with the articles by Massimiliano and Willi, we have already more than 40 pages, more would be welcome, but please deliver within the next two weeks (until end of July)! I would appreciate the help of English native speakers for proofreading/editing, you could start immediately with the existing articles. I’m very sorry that I procrastinated for too long, so that we’re now in a hurry to get the journal printed in time for the meeting. Hraban

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Quotation mark in drop caps
by Thangalin 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

Hi list! I have a three-part question. First, when using \placeinitial, how would you detect whether the first character is a quotation mark, and, if so, override the setupinitial to use m=2? Second, when using m=2 to capture a quotation mark, how would you change the font size of only the quotation mark, leaving the font size for the remaining characters the same? Third, can this be accomplished using setupinitial alone? Such as: \setupinitial[ quotefont=\SmallerFont, quotecolour=\QuoteColour, ] A few typographic examples of what I'd like to accomplish: Re: https://i.ibb.co/7rJYBS6/initial-Matching-Quotes.gif Re: https://i.ibb.co/Hz8v5w4/atlantips-drop-caps-and-quotation-marks-10.png My understanding of what exists in ConTeXt: \starttext \startchapter % This detaches the quotation mark from the paragraph, which looks strange. \placeinitial "We held ConTeXt in high esteem." \stopchapter \startchapter % This looks great. \placeinitial \input knuth \stopchapter \startchapter % I'd like to eliminate this next line. \setupinitial[m=2] % The quotation mark is a drop cap, albeit too big. \placeinitial "We held ConTeXt in high esteem." \stopchapter \startchapter % I'd like to eliminate this next line. \setupinitial[m=1] % The setups are reinitialized, which in theory should not be needed. \placeinitial \input knuth \stopchapter \stoptext Here's how I'd like to typeset the document (using setupinitial alone): \setupinitial[ % When a quotation mark is detected, the given font is applied to it. quotefont=\SmallerFont, % Not necessary, but could be useful to other people? quotecolour=\QuoteColour, ] \starttext \startchapter % The quotation mark gets attached and applies the smaller font size. \placeinitial "We held ConTeXt in high esteem." \stopchapter \startchapter % Only captures the first letter, because no quotation mark is present. \placeinitial \input knuth \stopchapter \stoptext Is this possible? If so, how? Thank you!

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table float split behavior
by Henning Hraban Ramm 10 Jul '24

10 Jul '24

Table floats split in odd places, independent of top/page/here location. There’s always a first part, then some not-float text, then the other parts. Even if the table would fit on two pages (with location=page), it always gets split into three. Can I influence this anyhow? Hraban \usemodule[visual] \starttext \samplefile{tufte} \startplacetable[location={top,split},title=table split test] \bTABLE%[setups=twoparamstable] \bTABLEhead \bTR\bTH One \eTH\bTH Two\eTH\bTH Three \eTH\eTR \eTABLEhead \bTABLEbody \dorecurse{60}{% \bTR\bTD #1\eTD\bTD \fakewords{1}{10}\eTD\bTD \fakewords{1}{10}\eTD\eTR } \eTABLEbody \eTABLE \stopplacetable \samplefile{knuth} \stoptext

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regular online meet-up
by Henning Hraban Ramm 10 Jul '24

10 Jul '24

I nearly forgot: You’re invited to our regular online meet-up, this upcoming Wednesday, June 12th, 19:00 CEST (UTC+2) at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke (same, but shorter: https://u.mtxrun.eu/ctxmtg) ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome! Do you have a subject that you’d like to talk about? Looking forward to seeing you, Hraban (Same blurb as always:) [Howto] * No special software installation required; most modern browsers should work (WebRTC required). * Open the URL above, accept the privacy statement, * enter your name, * click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first), * click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the audio. * Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or camera with the buttons at the bottom. * Minimize the default presentation with the "screen" button, bottom right. * If you’d like to share your screen or upload a file, you can make yourself the presenter: Click on your user name, change the setting, then you’ll see the "screen sharing" button beside the camera button; also there’s now "manage presentations" behind the "plus" button. Beware there is only one presenter at a time, so don’t kill someone else’s presentation. [Technical hints] * Sound is usually better if you use a headset (less noise for everyone). * Connection problems are mostly due to low bandwidth or high latency on your side, e.g. with mobile connections. * Sometimes leaving and re-entering helps. * If audio/video doesn’t work for you, you can still use the text chat. * Screen sharing needs a lot of bandwidth. * BigBlueButton documentation applies: https://bigbluebutton.org/teachers/tutorials/ [Netiquette] * Please use a name that we recognize from here. Some feel uncomfortable with anonymous lurkers. * Mute your microphone while you’re not talking. * It’s nice to show your face at least when you join. * If there are connection problems, stop camera sharing. * The room is set to “everyone’s a moderator“, I trust you...

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a different, but not zero, blank at the top of a page
by mf 09 Jul '24

09 Jul '24

Hello, I need advice on blanks at the start of a page. Usually a blank is ignored when it's at the top of a page. You can force it with \blank[...,force], but its value is the same as in the remainder of the text. So, if the blank over a heading is 2 lines, forcing it at the top of the page produces 2 empty lines (not exactly, because TeX uses a glue at the top for line alignment, if I remember well). What I need is a non zero blank at the top, to align the following text to the grid. A solution could be checking whether we are at the top of the page, and choose the blank amount accordingly. How can I make such a test? Massi

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https://behdad.org/text2024/
by luigi scarso 09 Jul '24

09 Jul '24

https://behdad.org/text2024/ A lot of stuff. -- luigi

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index sort order (de)
by Henning Hraban Ramm 08 Jul '24

08 Jul '24

Hi, I checked the German index sorting rules, and as far as I can tell, all of them are somewhat wrong. – de, default, or no setting (just mainlanguage de) – Duden - DIN 5007-1(:2005) - DIN 5007-2(:1996) - de-AT IMO, "Duden" is obsolete, should be the same as default; it makes no sense to have a default setting that doesn’t adhere to the official rules. If Û#m not mistaken it’s also the same as DIN 5007-1; maybe there was a difference before 2005. (DIN 5007-2 and de-AT have their uses.) The order of umlauts etc. should be ok. [ß] In tex/context/base/mkiv/sort-lan.lua, ß is replaced by s, while it should be sorted like ss in default and both DIN versions. (de-AT sorts ss after ß.) [upper-/lowercase] While casing is not mentioned in Wikipedia (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetische_Sortierung) Duden „Satz und Korrektur“ says: Uppercase characters get sorted the same as lowercase (i.e. mixed), but if both appear, lowercase comes first. ATM all German settings sort lowercase behind uppercase. Generally, default method seems to be not "default" but "before". Does this make sense? If we look at the method presets, there’s none for {zm,pm,zc,zm,uc} (upper like lower, ignore diacritics – basic default for German). """ \mainlanguage[de] \setupregister[index][language=de] \starttext \index{Apfel} \index{Äpfel} \index{apfel} \index{äpfel} \index{aepfel} \index{Aepfel} \index{Ápfel} \index{ápfel} \page \completeindex \stoptext """ default order should be: aepfel Aepfel apfel Apfel äpfel Äpfel ápfel Ápfel aqua DIN 5007-2 sorts like: aepfel Aepfel äpfel Äpfel apfel Apfel ápfel Ápfel aqua de-AT sorts like: aepfel Aepfel apfel Apfel aqua äpfel Äpfel ápfel Ápfel Hraban

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Draw leftframe to a description
by Gerion Entrup 08 Jul '24

08 Jul '24

Hi, I want to typeset an "excurses" description that is marked with a leftframe. The problem is that it spans about multiple pages and has footnotes. Here is an MWE: ``` %% -> mwe-framedtext.pdf \defineframedtext[excursusbg][ frame=off, leftframe=on, rulethickness=1mm, framecolor=blue, toffset=0mm, % there is an offset anyways ] %% -> mwe-textbackground.pdf % \definetextbackground[excursusbg] [ % location=text, % background=color, % backgroundcolor=lightblue, % frame=on, % loffset=10cm, % seems to have no impact % ] \definedescription[excursus][ text={Excursus:\ }, alternative=top, headstyle=bold, margin=1cm, width=broad, before={\startexcursusbg}, after={\stopexcursusbg}, ] \starttext \input ward \startexcursus[title={A Knuth extract}] \input knuth \stopexcursus \input ward \startexcursus[title={A much longer Knuth extract}] \input knuth Sometimes, sentences have footnotes\footnote{Some footnote}. \input knuth \input knuth \stopexcursus \stoptext ``` See the attached PDFs for the different results. In principal, I would like the excurses typesetted like to solution with \defineframedtext. However, this does not work with pagebreaks. Additionally, the leftframe is too long (it begins above the "Excursus" text). I tried toffset to let the leftframe begin exactly at the "Excurses" text without success. The solution with \textbackground looks somewhat promising. It supports pagebreaks, but draws above footnotes and prints a small rectangle at the end of the excursus. I also didn't found a way to specify a leftframe only. Also, loffset seems to have no effect, here. Do I use the false environments? Do you know a better solution? Gerion

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documenting itemize specials
by Henning Hraban Ramm 07 Jul '24

07 Jul '24

Hi, * can anyone give me an example where \noitem makes sense? * is the + symbol of \sub configurable? \startitemize[n,packed] \startitem oins \stopitem \noitem zwoi \startitem droi \stopitem \sub droi ond ebbes \stopitemize Hraban

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processor for index sub-entry?
by Henning Hraban Ramm 07 Jul '24

07 Jul '24

Hi, is it possible to apply a processor to an index sub-entry? \index{Modules+\type{filter}} looks good, but "filter" is sorted under "type". \defineprocessor[type][style=mono] \index{Modules+type->filter} results in a "Modules / type->filter" entry. \index[Modules+filter]{Modules+\type{filter}} works and looks good, but the code feels bad… Hraban

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