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Re: [NTG-context] CJK support in ConTeXt
by Hong Feng 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

> > It's time to discuss the topic "CJK support in ConTeXt" in a more public > > place. > > Agree! The currently ConTeXt release support UTF-8, CJKV locales can all be represented in UTF-8, so the mechanism is already done. IMHO, the real one work to do is to make the sets of typesetting conventions (typesetting rules) for each locale of CJKV (like the Chinese package did), that would varies quite much from locale to locale, all all of them are based on the same underlayed mechanism. Best, Hong _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 启用电邮帐号，领会雅虎通[身临其境聊电影]的动感魅力，还有网络摄像头+雅虎通收音机等你来拿 http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.messenger.yahoo.com

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\dosetupsystem ????!
by Matthew Huggett 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Hi: Can anybody tell me what might cause this error: > Runaway argument? > \c!gebied ={\setupsystem [inputfile=rice.tex] \protect > ! File ended while scanning use of \dosetupsystem. > <inserted text> > \par > <to be read again> > \relax > \dodoreadfile ...normalinput \readfilename \relax > \the > \everyafterreadfile > <everyjob> ...file \openutilities \loadoptionfile > \checknotes > \initializeMPg... Everything was running smooth a few days ago. Now every document I process causes the same error. What actions does \dosetupsystem carry out? Thanks, Matt

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Re: [NTG-context] CJK support in ConTeXt
by Tim 't Hart 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Jin-Hwan Cho wrote: >It's time to discuss the topic "CJK support in ConTeXt" in a more >public place. I couldn't agree more! :-) >The current version of ConTeXt supports Chinese only. But the same >mechasism enables Korean too. The remaining language is Japanese. >In some sense, it is possible to support Japanese in the current >subfont mechanism. But several issues (e.g. Japanese kerning system >as explained by Okumura) may occur. Could you explain what these issues are? For the past couple of months I've been busy writing Japanese support for ConTeXt, based on the Chinese module. I'm not an expert in this, so I'm sure the method I used for writing Japanese support is wrong and can be improved. But for my own personal use it has already proven to be quite useable. If anyone else is interested in what I've produced so far, please let me know. I would like to know what the issues with Japanese kerning are. I do not know a lot about Japanese typography and would like to know what the limitations of code based on the Chinese module are. >My suggestion for supporting CJK characters in ConTeXt is to write a >new module using e-Omega. Even though e-Omega does not produce PDF >format directly, there are not much problem with DVIPDFMx. When I first tried to use Japanese with ConTeXt, I first looked at e-Omega. The reason I gave up and tried to adapt the Chinese module was that e-Omega was unstable on my machine. Version 1.23 crashed immediately (got stuck in a loop producing [] characters). I tried 1.15 because I heard that was more stable. I got some Japanese output with this version, but when I tried creating more than a paragraph, it locked as well. But this was all a few months ago. Does anybody know if things with e-Omega have improved recently? Anyway, I would like to see a common CJK module for ConTeXt, where Chinese, Korean and Japanese are based on the same base code. It doesn't matter to me if it's implemented using subfonts or on using e-Omega, as long as it's stable and useable. Therefore, I would like to offer my help in creating CJK support. My best, Tim

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parameter mechanism
by Peter Rolf 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Hello all, I have problems to understand the command (parameter) mechanism of context. My experiments with \getparameters didn't work, so I used \xdescgetparameters from Giuseppe Bilotta (t-xdesc.tex). In my eyes they look the same, but \xdescgetparameters works with my sample code, \getparameters don't. Mhhh.... % t-xdesc.tex \def\xdescsetvalue#1#2{\expandafter\def\csname#1#2\endcsname} \def\xdescgetparameters{\dogetparameters\xdescsetvalue} % syst-gen.tex \def\dosetvalue#1#2% #3 {\@EA\def\csname#1#2\endcsname} % {#3}} \def\getparameters {\dogetparameters\dosetvalue} This leads me to my two questions: What must I change, to make my test example run with \getparameters? Where is the error in my \docommand? All parameters but [height] work and the tracing output at this parameter (\OTRSETshowstatus) says nothing to me. Thanks for any help, Peter P.S.: using miktex 2.3, context version 21.08.2003

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Re: [NTG-context] CJK support in ConTeXt
by Hans Hagen 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

At 09:15 27/08/2003 +0200, you wrote: >quite useable. If anyone else is interested in what I've produced so >far, please let me know. can you put together a zip with (1) fonts, (2) macros (3) examples - also in pdf, so that i can have a look at it? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Texexec changing directories
by David Arnold 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

All, I need some help with an annoying feature that has cropped up after an update of Miktex and Context. D:\NSFGRANT\MultiCalc\VecMat>texexec --version TeXExec 3.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 total run time : 0 seconds F:\PuTTY> Note how the drive letter has changed. This is not just a minor annoyance, because if I have a "make" file such as make.bat defined by texexec --pdf --mode=screen --suffix="-s" Context-VecMat texexec --pdf --mode=letter --suffix="-p" Context-VecMat texexec --pdf --mode=screen --suffix="-s" Context-VecMat texexec --pdf --mode=letter --suffix="-p" Context-VecMat After the first run, the process stops because it can no longer find Context-VecMat on the f: partition. Help!

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CJK support in ConTeXt
by Jin-Hwan Cho 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

It's time to discuss the topic "CJK support in ConTeXt" in a more public place. The current version of ConTeXt supports Chinese only. But the same mechasism enables Korean too. The remaining language is Japanese. In some sense, it is possible to support Japanese in the current subfont mechanism. But several issues (e.g. Japanese kerning system as explained by Okumura) may occur. So, alternative way is to use ASCII pTeX for Japanese. Basically looks no problem but I worry eTeX extension features. Is it possible to run ConTeXt without eTeX extension features, Hans? My suggestion for supporting CJK characters in ConTeXt is to write a new module using e-Omega. Even though e-Omega does not produce PDF format directly, there are not much problem with DVIPDFMx. Best, ChoF. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *** | Cho, Jin-Hwan == ChoF | ^ ^ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ o | Research Fellow | ~~~ | School of Mathematics ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Korea Institute for Advanced Study | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | chofchof(a)ktug.or.kr | | http://free.kaist.ac.kr/ChoF/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Sidebar
by Paulo Ney de Souza 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Dear ConTeXt hackers, Is is possible (simple) to do a "sidebar" in Context ? Sidebar is an insert on a page, that stands out, in general to the sides, not following the normal justication of the paragraphs around it, and containing a completely separate paragraph structure like in example below: Paulo Ney de Souza ------------------------------- | | | ..................... | | ..................... | | ..................... | | ..........|--------------|| | ..........| xxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|xxxxxxxxx || | ..........| xxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........| xxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|| | ..........|--------------|| | ..................... | | ..................... | | | -------------------------------

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MPtoPDF problem: metafun.mem error
by Andreas Steiger 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Hi, I'm trying to setup Metapost on my computer using Miktex (version 2.2.6) but when I try to execute mptopdf.pl I get the following error message: <snip> TeXExec 3.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGME ADE 1997-2003 metapost : G:\metapost\height format : metafun initexmf: don't know how to dump metafun cannot make metafun.mem I can't found the feault mem file! total run time : 0 seconds MPtoPDF 1.2 : error while processing mp file </snip> I tried already different things (like changing paths) but nothing worked :(. How could I solve my problem? -- Best regards, Andreas mailto:anstei@ksk.ch

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\footnote and \note
by John Culleton 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

I do \footnote[bene]{Here is a footnote} and later, Mumble mumble\note[bene] The \footnote works OK but \note does nothing. What am I doing wrong? -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com

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