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Footnotes
by Steffen Wolfrum 05 Oct '03

05 Oct '03

Hi, Just in case some one is interested in detailed footnote problems: In the last time I was fiddling a lot on the problem of setting up footnotes - the task was to have different defined font and interlinespace sizes for text as well as for footnotes. The first solution that I constructed with commands and keywords from the manual (and etexshow) seemed to give the desired result: \setupbodyfont[10pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=15pt] \definefont [FNfont][Serif at 8pt] \def\FNstyle{\FNfont\setupinterlinespace[line=15pt]} \setupfootnotes[numbercommand=] \setupfootnotedefinition[style=\FNstyle] \starttext \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } \stoptext But it just worked OK for *normal* sizes. When set to extreme values it begun to show strange phenomena (see the distances over and under each first line of a footnote): \setupbodyfont[4pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=45pt] \definefont [FNfont][Serif at 4.5pt] \def\FNstyle{\FNfont\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]} \setupfootnotes[numbercommand=] \setupfootnotedefinition[style=\FNstyle] \starttext \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } \stoptext After re-combining the different option and command for setupfootnotes and setupfootnotedefinition without improvement, I started to search through the source files and found the very interesting command \setfootnotebodyfont. With this command a setup can be written that works, finally: \setupbodyfont[4pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=45pt] \definefont [FNfont][Serif at 4.5pt] \def\setfootnotebodyfont{\FNfont\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]} \setupfootnotes[numbercommand=] \setupfootnotedefinition[style=\FNfont] \starttext \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } \input tufte \footnote{\input knuth } \stoptext Maybe this helps someone. Steffen P.S. If there is still need for improvement, please correct.

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Again: (can be better done global) ???
by Steffen Wolfrum 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Sorry, maybe the last mail was a bit confusing. So I make another try - hopefully clearer: The problem was when defining an unusual size for my footnotes > \setupfootnotes[bodyfont=8.5pt, ... ] I get an amazing amount of messages > bodyfont: bodyfont XXpt is defined (can be better done global) with XX being various sizes. Which makes processing real slow... So the original question is: What is meant by "global defining"? Where should I write a "global" definition and how does it look like? On this, Hans gave me the advice: > \setupbodyfont [...] : global settings, document level, main text as well as headers footers etc > \switchtobodyfont[...] : local, inside a box or in page stream, but no headers etc I was not sure how to use this for footnotes, so I asked: > Well, yes - I use setupbodyfont for defining the main text > \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.5pt] > But what would be the syntax when I want to define the main text's *and* the footnote's font with setupbodyfont?? > It's not \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.5pt,8.8pt] ? And then Hans wrote: > \setupfootnotes[bodyfont=8.8pt] % or [bodyfont={whatever,you,want,10pt}] But this is the initial problem (see top here). The circle is closed... Does this mean there is actually no answer to my problem? Thank you for assistance, Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] texshow (was: keywords)
by George N. White III 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > OK, use only with X11. > > So I started X11 and entered texshow in xterm: > Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk/ /System/Library/Perl/darwin /System/Library/Perl /Library/Perl/darwin /Library/Perl /Network/Library/Perl/darwin /Network/Library/Perl .) at /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk//cont_set.pm line 59. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk//cont_set.pm line 59. > Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk/texshow.pl line 57. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk/texshow.pl line 57. > > Does anybody has an advice on how to use actually texshow? Tk.pm is a perl module. It was missing on SGI Irix too. Perl has a tools to automate the installation of modules, but you may need some libraries as well (Tk/Tcl, compression, etc.) which can either be installed under Perl or for use with other applications. You will need the developer tools if you build the module from sources. -- George N. White III <aa056(a)chebucto.ns.ca>

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Re: keywords
by Steffen Wolfrum 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > At 13:12 03/10/2003, you wrote: > > >But where can I find "texshow"? Do you also have an URL? > > on you disk -) > > did you try >texshow ? I tried to try - but failed. I tried commandline, tex file ... Sorry, but do you also have an explanation or example how to use "texshow" Should I spray the word "texshow" on the wall? Steffen

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Re: keywords
by Steffen Wolfrum 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Hi, Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum <st.wolfrum(a)estfiles.de> writes: > > > [...] > > > - always surprised by the amount of unexpected keywords... > > you know about the reference (setup-en.pdf..) and (e)texshow? > > > Patrick Sure, the reference I konw, as many other manuals in http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/ . But where can I find "texshow"? Do you also have an URL? etexshow doesn't make sense for me as I am used to work with Alpha and jEdit. Steffen

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Context Ruby scripts
by Matthew Huggett 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Hi : Where can we get the ruby scripts that are mentioned in the new SciTE stuff? Matt

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lines in tabulate tables
by Ed L Cashin 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Hi. I have two questions, really. I know that I can get a horizontal line with \ML in a tabulate table. \HL doesn't seem to work for me, though. ecashin@marblerye tmp$ cat test.tex \starttext \starttabulate \NC hi \NC there \NC \NR \HL \NC yo \NC there \NC \NR \ML \NC whassup \NC there \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stoptext ecashin@marblerye tmp$ texexec --pdf test < /dev/null TeXExec 3.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : test output : pdftex interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-13d-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.1) entering extended mode (test.tex[/opt/teTeX-1.0.7/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] ConTeXt ver: 2003.8.21 fmt: 2003.9.12 int: english mes: english ... The resulting test.pdf has only one horizontal line. It's above "whassup there". My second question is how do I make vertical lines in tabulate tables? -- --Ed L Cashin | PGP public key: ecashin(a)uga.edu | http://noserose.net/e/pgp/

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Re: (can be better done global) ???
by Steffen Wolfrum 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Hi, Steffen Wolfrum <st.wolfrum(a)estfiles.de> wrote: > Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > > > At 14:22 01/10/2003, you wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > > >when defining an unusual size for my footnotes > > > > > >\setupfootnotes[bodyfont=8.5pt, ... ] > > > > > >I get an amazing amount of messages > > > > > >bodyfont: bodyfont XXpt is defined (can be better done global) > > > > > >with XX being various sizes. Which makes processing real slow... > > > > > >What is meant by "global defining"? > > >Where should I write a "global" definition and how does it look like? > > > > > >Sorry, but I really have now idea. > > > > \setupbodyfont [...] : global settings, document level, main text as well > > as headers footers etc > > \switchtobodyfont[...] : local, inside a box or in page stream, but no > > headers etc > > > Well, yes - I use setupbodyfont for defining the main text > > \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.5pt] > > But what would be the syntax when I want to define the main text's *and* the footnote's font with setupbodyfont?? > > It's not \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.5pt,8.8pt] ? > At 22:47 02/10/2003, you wrote: ... > >It's not \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.5pt,8.8pt] ? > > \setupfootnotes[bodyfont=8.8pt] % or [bodyfont={whatever,you,want,10pt}] > > > > Hans Oh Hans! Now we are running in circles. Have a look at the beginning of this thread: exactly this is the problem ... Steffen

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Re: (can be better done global) ???
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > At 14:22 01/10/2003, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >when defining an unusual size for my footnotes > > > >\setupfootnotes[bodyfont=8.5pt, ... ] > > > >I get an amazing amount of messages > > > >bodyfont: bodyfont XXpt is defined (can be better done global) > > > >with XX being various sizes. Which makes processing real slow... > > > >What is meant by "global defining"? > >Where should I write a "global" definition and how does it look like? > > > >Sorry, but I really have now idea. > > \setupbodyfont [...] : global settings, document level, main text as well > as headers footers etc > \switchtobodyfont[...] : local, inside a box or in page stream, but no > headers etc Well, yes - I use setupbodyfont for defining the main text \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.5pt] But what would be the syntax when I want to define the main text's *and* the footnote's font with setupbodyfont?? It's not \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.5pt,8.8pt] ? Steffen - always surprised by the amount of unexpected keywords...

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ConTeXt updates & Gentoo
by Gour 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Hi! Is there any user here using ConTeXt within Gentoo distribution? I'm interested regarding the update process since there is no separate ebuild for ConTeXt package, how do you keep pace with the rapid development. Is it better to switch to TeX Live instead of teTeX? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour gour(a)mail.inet.hr Registered Linux User #278493

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