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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-updater i-Package updated
by Steffen Wolfrum 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

Uwe Koloska <koloska(a)voiceinterconnect.de> wrote: > Let's count the guys that use OSX with ConTeXt (and possibly > i-Packages): > > -- One -- Yes, a great work this ever up-to-date TeX distro! -- Two -- Steffen P.S. Although up to now I always installed Hans new versions directly in my local tree

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ConTeXt to HTML ?
by VnPenguin 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

Hi, I have some article written in ConTeXt. The principal output is of course PDF. But now I would like to make also a HTML output. Is there a simple way to do that from ConTeXt's source ? Thank you in advance, Q.

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[force, here] floats and its bad placement -- LONG mail
by Martin Kolařík 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Hi Hans (and all), I have difficulties with [force,here] floats. Even if such floats are something a bit degraded, they occured in publication text and they should be handled correctly. I am sorry I do not send a minimal example, but the minimal example from me would be XML + XML mapping + some included tex files and styles; and these together are really not minimal example... I hope I succeed with text description :-) The description: -- subject disallows page breaks after self and recommends page break before self (\goodbreak), -- the first page fills up with title, subject A + paragraphs, second subject B + [force]-float, -- which produces three pages: the *first* correctly ended (before subject B); the *second* with subject B only and the *third* with the [force]-float and the rest of the text. This is bad, as the [force]-float should be placed immediately after subject B onto the same (second) page. The tracing pages reports for this case, the ### lines are my comments: ... % t=378.42076 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=2111 p=0 c=2111# % t=389.22081 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1681 p=0 c=1681# % t=400.02086 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1314 p=0 c=1314# % t=410.8209 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1005 p=2000 c=3005 % t=421.62096 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=748 p=-500 c=248# subject : - Ozna?ení a význam svorek #### here the [force] float starts, it is a table, so ModulePins is used more times figures : dimensions of img/ModulePins.pdf loaded from figurefile itself figures : figureobject ModulePins.pdf is reused figures : figureobject ModulePins.pdf is reused floatblocks : order disturbed % t=897.74492 plus 56.20007 minus 16.20007 g=526.37599 b=* p=-500 c=* #### now the first page is too high -- and it will be break in c=248 (which is #### \goodbreak before subject interaction : pdftex code inserted [1.1{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Privat e/fonts/map/private.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/adobe.map}{d:/TeXLocal/P rivate/fonts/map/stormtype.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/microsoft.map}{d: /TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/suitcase.map}] %% goal height=526.37599, max depth=3.19995 % t=465.13591 plus 40.0 g=526.37599 b=357 p=-500 c=-143# #### the page 1 is flushed, 465 pts rests, this is subject B + [force]-float. #### But \OTRONEdocheckiffloatfits finds the float cannot be placed and, moreover, #### it prepares \goodbreak before it. floatblocks : order disturbed floatblocks : 3 saved % t=465.13591 plus 40.0 g=526.37599 b=357 p=-500 c=-143# % t=465.13591 plus 40.0 g=526.37599 b=357 p=0 c=357 subject : - Parametry modulu % t=505.02203 plus 44.05002 minus 4.05002 g=526.37599 b=11 p=0 c=11 % t=530.67215 plus 45.40002 minus 5.40002 g=526.37599 b=50 p=0 c=50 % t=545.52222 plus 46.75003 minus 6.75003 g=526.37599 b=* p=0 c=* [2.2] #### This goodbreak leads to break candidate with cost=-143 and #### HERE the second page is broken. And the float is saved and placed #### now onto the third page. floatblocks : 3 moved %% goal height=526.37599, max depth=3.19995 % t=0.0 g=359.6518 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# % t=30.78607 plus 41.35 minus 1.35 g=359.6518 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# ... By tweaking into \OTRONEdocheckiffloatfits, I found there is the line: % new per 31/5/2004, should be an option, only one column mode which creates \goodbreak. But I seems to me this \goodbreak should be generated only if there is a room for the float? It the room is not here -- which leads to float save -- the break causes unexpected page breaks. For second -- it seems to me the checking of room for float in described case counts the float size twice -- the float is counted inside \pagetotal of page material pending from the overfilled page 1 and for second its dimension is counted again with second call. For third -- the described behaviour saves float even if it can be correctly placed in currently filled page, so the float is pulled up from [force,here] positioning and it starts flow -- but this is not proper behaviour for such float. As a result, IMHO (which can be completly bad, I really do not known all the consequencies and mechanisms of ConTeXt) it should be corrected using following way: 1. \OTRONEdocheckiffloatfits (and maybe another OTR routines) should respect the float is [force,here]. For such floats the routine *always* should set \roomforfloattrue and *not to* generate \goodbreak, as [force,here] floats should be left to be placed by normal page builder TeX mechanism. 2. \goodbreak in % new per 31/5... block should be generated only if the float is placed -- if it is saved, the break corresponding to the float should not appear without the float. 3. maybe implement the option for \goodbreak :-) But there I cannot say more, because I do not know the primary motivation. I experimented with \OTRONEdocheckiffloatfits in desribed case -- after forcing the routine to set \roomforfloattrue and removing \goodbreak, the pages are break *exactly* as one (and me too :-) expects: % t=378.42076 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=2111 p=0 c=2111# % t=389.22081 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1681 p=0 c=1681# % t=400.02086 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1314 p=0 c=1314# % t=410.8209 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1005 p=2000 c=3005 % t=421.62096 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=748 p=-500 c=248# subject : - Ozna?ení a význam svorek figures : dimensions of img/ModulePins.pdf loaded from figurefile itself figures : figureobject ModulePins.pdf is reused figures : figureobject ModulePins.pdf is reused floatblocks : order disturbed floatblocks : 3 placed % t=618.06926 plus 58.90009 minus 18.90009 g=526.37599 b=* p=0 c=* interaction : pdftex code inserted #### the first page without float [1.1{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Privat e/fonts/map/private.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/adobe.map}{d:/TeXLocal/P rivate/fonts/map/stormtype.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/microsoft.map}{d: /TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/suitcase.map}] %% goal height=526.37599, max depth=3.19995 % t=185.46025 plus 42.70001 minus 2.70001 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# % t=189.51028 plus 44.05002 minus 4.05002 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=-500 c=100000# % t=189.51028 plus 44.05002 minus 4.05002 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# subject : - Parametry modulu % t=229.39641 plus 48.10004 minus 8.10004 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# % t=255.04652 plus 49.45004 minus 9.45004 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# #### the second page including the float and the following text. That is all, have a nice day, Martin

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Hi Patrick, Patrick Gundlach <patrick(a)gundla.ch> wrote: > Hello again, > > > I have tried your small file (the one you have sent me) an a vanilla > > tetex 3.0 and an older texlive (I had to dig out my iBook -- anybody > > wants to buy a used iBook?) and both were two runs. > > Ah, not so fast, Patrick. I can reproduce your problem: > > $ ls -lR > .: > total 4 > drwxr-xr-x 4 pg pg 136 Mar 2 20:27 PARTS > -rw-r--r-- 1 pg pg 117 Mar 2 20:28 TEST.tex > > ./PARTS: > total 8 > -rw-r--r-- 1 pg pg 40 Mar 2 20:27 ONE.tex > -rw-r--r-- 1 pg pg 40 Mar 2 20:27 TWO.tex > > (so setup is TEST.tex in all capitals and ONE.tex and TWO.tex in > subdir, tetex 3.0). Now I run > > texexec --pdf test.tex > > (lowercase test.tex !) > > and I get: > > [...] > > utility file analysis : another run needed > TeX run : 8 > > > [...] > > > Note that the standard OS X filesystem is case preserving, but not > case sensitive when accessing a file. So accessing test.tex would be > happy with a file called TEST.tex. It is possible to create a pure > case sensitive HFS+ filesystem, but it isn't necessary to reproduce > the problem. (It would probably avoid it, though). > > > Patrick So I made a new setup: new files/folders and every names lowercase (folders, files, references). The first time I executed texexec --pdf test.tex it looked good: 2 runs! Then I executed texexec --pdf test.tex once more and now it was 8 runs again! Does this make sense? Steffen

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special character | how to encode?
by Paul Tremblay 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

How does one use | in ConTeXt? I've searched the manual and the web (and come up with nothing because context is a regular English word), but could not find anything. Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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Language issues
by Mats Broberg 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Dear listmembers, When setting a language (in this case Swedish) for a document, is there something else one is supposed to do than putting \language[sv] on a single line somewhere before \starttext? I get overfull, non-hyphenated lines in the section I am typesetting. Best regards, Mats Broberg

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XeConTeXt set up issue
by Mark Smith 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Apart from my reference numbering problem with the bib module, everything was working OK. So, I decided it was time to have a go with "XeConTeXt". I was following Adam's instructions here: <http://contextgarden.net/XeTeX> Checked: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/config:texexec.ini for: for tetex set TeXPassString to -progname=context for tetex set TeXVirginFlag to -ini OK. Just to be safe ran: texexec --verbose texexec --make texhash No problems so far. Then: sudo texexec --make --xtx en gave: TeXExec 5.2.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 TeX hash binary : mktexlsr comment : hashing may take a while ... mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done. This is XeTeX, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.91 (Web2C 7.5.3) (INITEX) (WARNING: translate-file "natural.tcx" ignored) entering extended mode (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/context.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/syst-prm.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/syst-etx.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/syst-omg.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/syst-xtx.tex ! I can't find file `xplain.tex'. l.21 \input xplain.tex Please type another input file name: xplain.tex is indeed nowhere to be found I reinstalled TeX then XeTeX and then ConTeXt from Gerben's and Jonathan's i-Packages choosing "2004 Stable" for TeX and "beta" for ConTeXt. Went through the same procedure. Same result. How to proceed ? [Just to test, I then ran: texexec --xtx mySampleFile.tex and got: TeXExec 5.2.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 executable : xetex format : cont-en inputfile : /Users/Mark/mySampleFile output : xetex interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1 This is XeTeX, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.91 (Web2C 7.5.3) (WARNING: translate-file "natural.tcx" ignored) ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) which probably corresponds to the fact that <cont-en.xfmt> was not generated in: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ I suppose ? because the texexec --make --xtx en couldn't complete ?] Any ideas ? (As I say, everything else seems to be working ('part from that bib module problem I mentioned in a separate post) wtia, mark.

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Re: [NTG-context] Extending into the margin
by Duncan Hothersall 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

I asked about a mechanism to allow tables to extend into the outer margin, in a double-sided layout. Hans said: > see the manual "details.pdf" Thanks - I think I now almost understand how I would do this for *floats*, but... my question was (perhaps) simpler - I'm just talking about fixed blocks of text in the main flow. In fact, things that must not float from where they are called. I can't see how to apply details.pdf to something that isn't a float, and it strikes me that the answer might be simpler? So is there any way of saying: -- Right hand page -- Some running text at normal width. A wider block of text which runs into the outer margin(in other words, extends right on right-hand pages and left on left hand ones). Back to running text at normal width. -- -- Left hand page -- Some running text at normal width. A wider block of text which runs into the outer margin(in other words, extends right on right-hand pages and left on left hand ones). Back to running text at normal width. -- Thanks again for any pointers. Will put the solution on the wiki once found! Duncan dh(a)capdm.com

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pdf image & setupbackground command
by VnPenguin 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Hi all, I used a one-page pdf like background image. The size of paper is A4 (210x297mm). The size of my pdf image is a little bigger (220x311mm). For the cover, when I used: \useexternalfigure[cover][cover-1005-4][width=220mm] \defineoverlay[cover][{\externalfigure[cover]}] \starttext \setupbackgrounds[page][background=cover] \startstandardmakeup Text of cover \stopstandardmakeup ... \stoptext I got a perfect cover. But when I use the same pdf for the page, I got a background which is smaller than the page and there is a black border (see http://phoc.homeunix.net/pub/page.png) \useexternalfigure[mypage][page-1005-2][width=220mm] \defineoverlay[mypage][{\externalfigure[mypage]}] \starttext \setupbackgrounds [page][background=mypage] \chapter{foo} \section{bar} abc abc \stoptext Any ideas for help ? Thank you in advance, Q.

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automatic width in \setupTABLE
by Peter Münster 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Hello, is there a possibility, to get automatic column widths with natural tables, and specifying only the total table width as with SetTableToWidth{...} ? Greetings, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

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