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Hair space and non-breaking hyphen
by Maurício 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

Hi, I've seen two interesting Unicode characters that I would like to use: Hair space: U+200A (it's supposed to be a space that's small, used around emdashes sometimes). Non-breaking hyphen: U+2011 (an hyphen where the word is not supposed to be broken by hyphenation). I would like to know if I can use them in Context. Is Context going to respect non-breaking hyphens in hyphenation algorithms? Is hair space going to be what it is supposed to, no matter which font I use? Thanks, Maurício

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Verses
by Maurício 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

Hi, Do you guys have tips on how to typeset verses? There's an item for that on the wiki: wiki.contextgarden.net/Visuals but nobody filled it yet. If we collect a nice bunch of tips I can put them in the wiki. Thanks for your help, Maurício

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Re: [NTG-context] Verses
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

Hello, I have used these settings (it prevents verses from splitting, and makes an indent for chorus): \setupinterlinespace[line=1.5em] %(optional, but looks better) \definestartstop [verse] [before=\vbox\bgroup\startlines, after=\stoplines\egroup] \definestartstop [chorus] [before=\startnarrower\startlines, after=\stoplines\stopnarrower] but later (don't remember why) I used the following: \definestartstop [verse] [before=\blank\startlinecorrection\ruledvbox\bgroup\startlines, after=\stoplines\egroup\stoplinecorrection\blank] \definestartstop [chorus] [before=\blank\startnarrower\startlines, after=\stoplines\stopnarrower\blank] \setuplines[before=\nowhitespace,after=\nowhitespace] Usage example: \startverse I see ya blowin' me a kiss It doesn't take a scientist To understand what's going on baby If you see something in my eye Let's not over analyze Don't go too deep with it baby \stopverse \startverse So let it be what it'll be Don't make a fuss and get crazy over you and me Here's what I'll do I'll play loose Run like we have a day with destiny \stopverse I also vote for publishing verse setup (maybe not this exactly) at Wiki. I think that good setup should protect from breaking verses, emphasize choruses (if any), and don't introduce excessive vertical spacing. -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav

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bugged mkiv
by Hans Hagen 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

hi, there is a bug in the feature processer of the latest current mkiv (I added a verbose resolved but forgot something) so ... update ... (only if you're using mkiv) mkiv now also no longerloads the unic-* files (no need for that) i bet that some more bugs will show up -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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new release
by Thomas A. Schmitz 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

Oops, I was too fast upgrading... luatex fails to produce format files on my system: luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.0-2007120515 luatools --ini --compile cont-en LuaTools | creating initialization file cont-en LuaTools | using library path : /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/ context/base LuaTools | using lua libraries: l-string.lua l-table.lua l-boolean.lua l-number.lua l-unicode.lua l-md5.lua l-os.lua l-io.lua l-file.lua l- dir.lua l-utils.lua l-tex.lua luat-lib.lua luat-inp.lua luat-tmp.lua luat-zip.lua luat-tex.lua LuaTools | using compiled initialization file cont-en.luc LuaTools | using lua initialization file cont-en.luc LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini --lua="cont-en.luc" "/usr/ local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex" \dump Error in lua file loading: ?:0: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.37 seconds Taco, Hans? All best Thomas

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synonyms with MKIV
by Peter Münster 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

Hello, I get unexpected output with this test-file: % engine=luatex \definesynonyms[test][tests] \test{testOne}{first test} \test{testTwo}{second test} \starttext \testOne \placelistoftests \stoptext I would expect: testOne testOne first test but I get: testOne test testOne (Perhaps a problem with parameter numbers #1, #2 etc. ?) Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

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gettimeofday under XP
by Peter Rolf 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

Hi, I run into the following error with the new version: 'luatools --generate' results in Error in lua file loading: r:\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\luatools.lua:1402: attempt to call field 'gettimeofday' (a nil value) There seems to be no 'os.gettimeofday' under Windows XP. This patch of luatools.lua works here (better check twice) :D if os.gettimeofday then os.clock = os.gettimeofday local startuptime = os.gettimeofday() function os.runtime() return os.gettimeofday() - startuptime end end -- if os.gettimeofday then -- os.clock = os.gettimeofday -- end -- do -- local startuptime = os.gettimeofday() -- function os.runtime() -- return os.gettimeofday() - startuptime -- end -- end Best wishes, Peter

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awful vertical spacing with MKIV
by Peter Münster 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

Hello, When comparing the vertical spacing (around section-heads) of the following test file, you'll see that it's not very beautiful with MKIV: \starttext \dorecurse{5}{ \section{sec} \subsection{subsec} \input tufte \subsection{subsec} \starttabulate[|l|l|] \NC bla \NC bla \NC\AR \NC bla \NC bla \NC\AR \stoptabulate \subsection{subsec} \startitemize \item bla \item bla \item bla \item bla \item bla \stopitemize \subsection{subsec} \setupTABLE[split=yes] \bTABLE \bTR\bTD bla \eTD\eTR \bTR\bTD bla \eTD\eTR \bTR\bTD bla \eTD\eTR \bTR\bTD bla \eTD\eTR \bTR\bTD bla \eTD\eTR \eTABLE} \stoptext Versions used: luaTeX-0.11.2 and ConTeXt-2007.09.28 Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

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Greek: GR or EL? Czech: CZ or CS? UK: Ukrainian or ...
by Mojca Miklavec 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

Hello, I have noticed that ConTeXt uses "gr" for Greek, but the ISO code seems to be "el". Less problematic: should agr be grc instead? (OpenType uses PGR, but I'm not sure if that's the same thing.) What do the Greek experts say? Well, English is a story on its own. "us" and "uk" don't have their own codes as a separate language, and even worse: uk should stand for Ukrainian!!! "Norwegian" (which is not a language at all) should be patched (according to an old user request) once. A similar problem exists with: - Chinese (cn instead of zn) - Czech (cz instead of cs) - Vietnamese (vn instead of vi) - Ukrainian (ua instead of uk!!!) A case where I have no opinion: - deo Some languages have already changed their codes in the past: - Spanish: sp -> es - German: du -> de - Slovenian: si -> sl (no trace left, I hope :) My proposal would be to change: - gr -> el - agr -> grc - cz -> cs - vn -> vi - deo -> ? (if at all) gmh - German, Middle High (ca.1050-1500) goh - German, Old High (ca.750-1050) - cn -> zn (with *lots of care*) And to keep all the needed synonyms. (Besides that: to issue a warning if possible.) I have no idea what to do with Ukrainian and UK though. ------------- Another issue: some languages need some little modifications or alternatives: 1.) In German, Slovenian, Croatian, (maybe in other languages as well) ... one can use two types of quotes: - „" U+201E/U+201C & ‚' U+201A/U+2018 (sorry, a bug in gmail reencodes them) - »« U+00BB/U+00AB & ›‹ U+203A/U+2039 It might make sense to be able to say something similar to \mainlanguage [german] [quotes | quotationmarks | quotationstyle = guillemots | guillemets or comma | ninesix] 2.) I could imagine a Serbian user to request being able to typeset in two scritpts (Latin or Cyrillic). That means: - different labels - loading different hyphenation patterns (even though transcription in either direction can be made on the fly - I can confirm that a user has already asked me if I know how to input text in cyrillic and get output in latin - as he wasn't fluent in reading Cyrillic, he wanted to misuse ConTeXt to help him read texts from web) So I could imagine making Cyrillic the default script, but still letting one to use \mainlanguage [serbian] [script=latin, % or even (if any user would be enthusiastic enough to provide code) transliteration=on] and get latin labels and hyphenation patterns. 3.) Solve the problem with English in a more elegant way: \mainlanguage [english] [alternative=us] or \mainlanguage[en][US] % as in "en_US.UTF-8" \mainlanguage[en][GB] \mainlanguage[en][AU] \mainlanguage[de][AT] % if one ever figures out that "German from Germany" isn't good enough Then, [us] should be kept as a synonym for \mainlanguage[en][US]. (The examples above could also be called via \mainlanguage[de][alternative=guillemets] or \mainlanguage[sr][alternative=latin].) 4.) deo \mainlanguage[de][alternative=old] ??? (no idea what that is about) Note that 1.) could be combined (should be "combinable") with this one. Any thoughts? Mojca

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\BL and \CL with MKIV
by Peter Münster 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

Hello, there are 2 problems with the example from the wiki: \BL gives a black box and \CL gives the following error: ! Missing \endgroup inserted. <inserted text> \endgroup <to be read again> \endtemplate <template> \endtemplate \normalTABLEmultirule #1->& \use {#1}\normalTABLElongrule & \dodocomplexTableGL ...LEmultirule {#3}}\fi \next \doPostTableGL #2 \TABLEgrayline ->\complexTableCOLOR [2,green] \SR ... l.13 \NC \tex{AR} \NC automatic row\NC\SR Here the test file: % engine=luatex \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \starttable[|l|l|] \HL \BL[1]\SR \NC Command \NC Meaning \NC\SR \HL \NC \tex{NC} \NC next column \NC\FR \NC \tex{NR} \NC next row \NC\LR \HL %\CL[green]\SR \NC \tex{AR} \NC automatic row\NC\SR \HL \stoptable \stoptext Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

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