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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
by luigi scarso 15 May '14

15 May '14

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Jan Tosovsky <j.tosovsky(a)email.cz> wrote: > On 2014-05-15 luigi scarso wrote: > > On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > > > > > > I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for > > > their typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ > > > > Another point could be the "server" property... the swiglib project is > > an attempt to cover this side > > > > https://swiglib.foundry.supelec.fr/ > > I am sad seeing lot of technical details without single sentence covering > benefits for the end user... > > It depends on the "end user" term. It's the other side of digital typography: high speed of "low quality" jobs, where the core is the automatic workflow and the "end user" is often a "traditional programmer" . -- luigi

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
by luigi scarso 15 May '14

15 May '14

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Jan Tosovsky <j.tosovsky(a)email.cz> wrote: > On 2014-05-15 Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their > > > typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ > > > > > > From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this > > > field to date, so congratulation! > > > > > > If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please > > > comment or let me know. > > > > > > If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open > > > to fix it. > > > > Font expansion only, applied to a limited character subset > > > > Is that true? It is applied to any character that you want, of course > > given that you associate expansion factors, but that happens for quite > > some characters in context. > > Good point, it should be clarified it is a default vector set, which can be > further customized (extended). > My info is based on this Wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion > pointing to this source code: > http://source.contextgarden.net/font-ext.lua > > By that subset I mean the table vectors['default'] > > > > Concerning homogenization, context has support for dynamically aplying > > feature (alternates) to improve the look and feel but of course not > > many fonts have multiple variants for glyphs grouped in stylistic > > alternates so this mechanism is hardly used (only for some arabic). > > Yes, I am aware of this, but it is indeed not very obvious from the text. > > Thanks for your suggestions, > > Jan > > Another point could be the "server" property... the swiglib project is an attempt to cover this side https://swiglib.foundry.supelec.fr/ -- luigi

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
by Hans Hagen 15 May '14

15 May '14

On 5/15/2014 7:39 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > On 2014-05-15 Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> >>> I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their >>> typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ >>> >>> From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this >>> field to date, so congratulation! >>> >>> If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please >>> comment or let me know. >>> >>> If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open >>> to fix it. >> >> Font expansion only, applied to a limited character subset >> >> Is that true? It is applied to any character that you want, of course >> given that you associate expansion factors, but that happens for quite >> some characters in context. > > Good point, it should be clarified it is a default vector set, which can be > further customized (extended). > My info is based on this Wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion > pointing to this source code: > http://source.contextgarden.net/font-ext.lua > > By that subset I mean the table vectors['default'] yes but we also initialize all similar shapes >> Concerning homogenization, context has support for dynamically aplying >> feature (alternates) to improve the look and feel but of course not >> many fonts have multiple variants for glyphs grouped in stylistic >> alternates so this mechanism is hardly used (only for some arabic). > > Yes, I am aware of this, but it is indeed not very obvious from the text. > > Thanks for your suggestions, > > Jan > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Typographical quality of various engines
by Hans Hagen 15 May '14

15 May '14

On 5/14/2014 10:21 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > Dear All, > > I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their typographical > quality: > http://drifted.in/publishing/ > > From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this field to > date, so congratulation! > > If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please comment > or let me know. > > If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open to fix > it. Font expansion only, applied to a limited character subset Is that true? It is applied to any character that you want, of course given that you associate expansion factors, but that happens for quite some characters in context. Concerning homogenization, context has support for dynamically aplying feature (alternates) to improve the look and feel but of course not many fonts have multiple variants for glyphs grouped in stylistic alternates so this mechanism is hardly used (only for some arabic). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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LuaTeX-plain OpenType Features Select
by Aíre Funvake 15 May '14

15 May '14

Hi all, Trying to select "slashed zero" and "lining figures" from a font. For Lucida Bright OT, as another example, +scmp works, but not for Charter ITC Pro. But the font that concerns me the most right now, is TheSansMono Condensed... Font URL: http://www.lucasfonts.com/fonts/thesansmono/thesansmono-condensed/features/ PDF Info: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-info.pdf 8<-------------------minimal example---------------------------->8 \newdimen\fntcodesz \fntcodesz = 11.5pt \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz \kwr 0123456789 \bye 8<-------------------------------------------------------------->8 Thank you for your attention, Regards Aíre

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Access to fonts in /usr/share/fonts/X11/
by Michael Ash 15 May '14

15 May '14

ConTeXt is working fine,and I am pretty sure that OSFONTDIR is set correctly I have recently run mtxrun --script fonts --reload and context --generate I am able to see/use fonts in the /usr/share/fonts/opentype and /usr/share/fonts/truetype I can see/use *some* of the fonts in the /usr/share/fonts/X11/ directory: mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=Symbol* symbol symbol /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/Symbol.afm symbolbold symbol /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/Symbol.afm ls -l /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/Symbol.* /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/Symbol.afm -> ../../type1/mathml/Symbol.afm /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/Symbol.pfb -> ../../type1/mathml/Symbol.pfb But I can't see with mtxrun (or use in documents) *many* of the fonts in this directory: mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=Dorian* <no output> ls -l /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/Dorian* /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/DorianCLM-Book.afm /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/DorianCLM-Book.pfa I note that the fonts that I can use appear to be symbolic links to a different directory. Thank you very much for advice. Best, Michael I'm using mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60 mtx-context | mtx-context | main context file: /opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv mtx-context | current version: 2014.04.28 23:24 on linux (ubuntu 14.04) -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst Amherst, MA 01003 Email mash(a)econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter https://twitter.com/michaelaoash

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[OT] Turing award for Leslie Lamport
by Mojca Miklavec 15 May '14

15 May '14

Now that both Kruth (TeX) and Leslie Lamport (LaTeX) won the Turing award http://amturing.acm.org/award_winners/lamport_1205376.cfm ... it's time to nominate Hans ;) Mojca

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Bug in s-pre-60.mkiv module
by Maggyero 14 May '14

14 May '14

I have to use this hack to make section titles appear when I use section blocks (Hans, could you have a look at this bug of your s-pre-60.mkiv module when you have time please?): \usemodule[pre-60] \setupinteraction[state=start] \starttext \startfrontmatter \StartSteps % <-- Hack \StopSteps % <-- Hack \startsection[title=My frontmatter section] % <-- Title displayed (the hack is not needed for this first section block, but I also use it here for symmetry with the next section blocks) \StartSteps \startitemize \item my item\FlushStep \item my item\FlushStep \item my item\FlushStep \stopitemize \StopSteps \stopsection \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter \StartSteps % <-- Hack \StopSteps % <-- Hack \startsection[title=My bodymatter section] % <-- Title displayed thanks to the hack \StartSteps \startitemize \item my item\FlushStep \item my item\FlushStep \item my item\FlushStep \stopitemize \StopSteps \stopsection \stopbodymatter \startbackmatter \StartSteps % <-- Hack \StopSteps % <-- Hack \startsection[title=My backmatter section] % <-- Title displayed thanks to the hack \StartSteps \startitemize \item my item\FlushStep \item my item\FlushStep \item my item\FlushStep \stopitemize \StopSteps \stopsection \stopbackmatter \startappendices \StartSteps % <-- Hack \StopSteps % <-- Hack \startsection[title=My backmatter section] % <-- Title displayed thanks to the hack \StartSteps \startitemize \item my item\FlushStep \item my item\FlushStep \item my item\FlushStep \stopitemize \StopSteps \stopsection \stopappendices \stoptext

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Two coexisting number conversions (in headers and in texts)
by Maggyero 14 May '14

14 May '14

> Try this: > \setupheadertexts[{\convertnumber{Romannumerals}{\namedheadnumber{chapter}}\quad\getmarking[chapter]}] Thanks Wolfgang!

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[OT] Typographical quality of various engines
by Jan Tosovsky 14 May '14

14 May '14

Dear All, I've finished a rough comparision of various engines for their typographical quality: http://drifted.in/publishing/ >From my point of view the ConTeXt is the best offering in this field to date, so congratulation! If you find something inappropriate or misleading in my text, please comment or let me know. If my ConTeXt examples could be written more efficiently, I am open to fix it. Thanks, Jan

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