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Re: [NTG-context] more footnotes:-)
by Hans Hagen 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

ishamid wrote: >[please forward to list] > > >>===== Original Message From Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> ===== >>% program=aleph output=dvipdfmx >> >>% the next texexec will automatically generate pdf which is handy for >>scit eusers -) >> >>\setupcolors[state=start] >> >>\starttext >> >> > >Ok, here is a modified test file. The headers on pages 1 and 2 should be the >same throughout the entire document. Of course, when I make the temporary >global direction switch, the location of the headers get switched too. My >problem is that I have not been able to create a combination of \setupheaders >and \setuppagenumbering so that I can adjust the headers during the temporary >direction switch so that it appears that the header locations remain constant: > > ... Last night I played a bit with aleph. One of the things that we need to keep in mind with omega is that the fact that it can typeset in multiple directions does not mean that this automatically works out well when turned on. Layout issues as well as language specific issues are up to macro packages. Omega is not a multi language or multi directional typesetting system by itself, but can be used to build one. Now, before we start hacking around, and thereby mess up context, we need to figure out a way to deal with these issues, so the main question is how directional typesetting is related to document design. - directions change per paragraph, rest of doc unchanged - directions change per document, all components are influenced - directions change per document, some components are influenced - etc so, what should happen with - page ornaments (headers, footers etc): locations and content - graphics: placements and content and captions - tables: structure and content - mp graphic: text and graphics - main text: indentation, skips, text, ... Of course one can say that we need to have all possibilities, but i tend to stick to those that make sense. Are there any resources on for instance right-left book design/typography? I don't know how many users are interested in these matters; maybe we should discuss this off list Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: A few questions regarding ConTeXt
by Hans Hagen Outside 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Broberg, Mats wrote: >Dear Sir, > >For some time now, I have been looking for suitable software solutions >for my publication projects. The projects are mainly books up to 500-750 >pages, with alot of figures, CMYK, solid PMS or lineart images, cross >references, several series of margin notes and footnotes, drop caps, >list of figures, indices, tables of contents etc. > >I have never used TeX or any of the wide array of macro packages, but I >know from having read about it that it can solve many of my publication >problems - and with a very high level of typographic quality too (which >is important to me). Initially, I was looking closely at using LaTeX - >mainly due to the fact that it is so widely used and has a vast number >of packages for the functions I need - but when coming across your site, >I think that ConTeXt may fit the bill better, since it seems to be >designed in a more parameter-driven way. > >However, judging from the documentation on your site, some features that >I have read about in LaTeX - such as drop caps, complex headers, cross >references, several series of footnotes etc (i.e. the packages >"lettrine", "fancyhdr", "varioref" and "ledmac") - don't seem to be >available in ConTeXt. > >I assume packages like these can not be used "out of the box" when using >ConTeXt, but that one needs to have someone create new packages? > > I'm a bit in a hurry (need to give a workshop at the practical tex conference). The features you mentioned are present in the core system, often providing more features; opposite to latex, where you need packages, context has all things built in. More information can be get from the rather active context mailing list. I cc the mail to there, so that others can confirm this Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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ConTeXt output & commercial printing houses
by Matt Gushee 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Hello, all-- I am planning to publish a book that is typeset using ConTeXt, and very soon I am going to start contacting printers for estimates. Given that a shop prints from PDF files, does it matter that the PDFs are produced by ConTeXt? I've never worked with regular printers, but I have taken PDF files produced by TeX or ConTeXt several times to Kinko's [for the non-US readers: Kinko's is a shop found all over North America--originally they were just a photocopy shop, but now they offer a wide range of services, including computer rental, design consulting, low-end POD printing ... they do good work within their limits, but their staff are really only knowledgeable about mainstream commercial DTP software--the notion of TeX is totally beyond them]. I have found that they can produce good results, but it seems they have to adjust some settings in their system and make several attempts before the job comes out right. Are problems likely to arise with normal printers? If so, can anyone suggest questions I should ask to help determine whether they can handle my files? Also, is there anything in particular I should do to my files to make sure they are print-ready? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Matt Gushee When a nation follows the Way, Englewood, Colorado, USA Horses bear manure through mgushee(a)havenrock.com its fields; http://www.havenrock.com/ When a nation ignores the Way, Horses bear soldiers through its streets. --Lao Tzu (Peter Merel, trans.)

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TeXshow failing
by Willi Egger 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Hi Hans, Don't know where to fix this: When I try to run texshow from the command line the following error occurs: Empty compile time value given to use lib at c:/mytex/texmf/scripts/context/perl /texshow.pl line 42 Can't locate cont_mis.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Program Files/Perl/lib C:/P rogram Files/Perl/site/lib .) at c:/mytex/texmf/scripts/context/perl/texshow.pl line 65. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at c:/mytex/texmf/scripts/context/perl/texshow .pl line 65. I wonder why texexec.pl is looking for the cont_mis.pm in the Perl directory, while it resides in the same directory as texexec.pl itself? When starting texshow within Scite it fails to come up. I believe that it is the same problem though. Could you please have a look into this? Kind regards Willi

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makempy - graphictext failing?
by Awkster＠aol.com 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

I've recently installed context after seeing it for the first time at Practical Tex2004 Installation seems to have worked but some metapost code is failing to produce output. Code is provided below: Platform(s)/OS: SuSE 8.1 linux with TeXLive Windows 2000 with TeXLive command line: texexec testMP Is there a problem with the source code or might it be with my installation? Thanks. D. Claudio %%%Code Follows%%%%%%%%%% % interface=english output=pdftex % Filename: testMP.tex \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \startMPgraphic graphictext "MP" scaled 8 withdrawcolor .7blue withfillcolor .7white dashed evenly withpen pencircle scaled 2pt ; \stopMPgraphic \loadcurrentMPgraphic \placeMPgraphic \stoptext

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[Fwd: ocplist interactions [please forward]]
by Hans Hagen 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

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more footnotes:-)
by ishamid 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Dear partners in crime, I have come across a situation where, in a left-to-right document, I need to make the footnotes operate right to left: that is, the footnote numeral and rule should be on the right side of the page. Now when using the global direction changes that eomega/Gamma offers, this is trivial for a global right-to-left document (\pagedir TRT and \bodydir TRT are the global settings), but in a globally left-to-right document I have not been able to get this to work locally. To explain: \textdir TRT and \pardir TRT locally switch the text and paragraph directions respectively, but not the footnote markers and rule. This is correct behavior of course. But I have an article that includes a long right-to-left extract with footnotes, and those footnotes need to be RL in the sense described above (numeral + rule). Is there any way to add a parameter option to \setupfoonotes which, between---say, a \start-\stop---that can locally switch the location of the numeral and marker to RL? Please help: I'm supposed to send this thing to the printer next week:-)) Best Idris PS \pagedir TRT and \bodydir TRT don't seem to help this proble when applied in a local context.

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more footnotes:-)
by Idris Samawi Hamid 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Dear partners in crime, I have come across a situation where, in a left-to-right document, I need to make the footnotes operate right to left: that is, the footnote numeral and rule should be on the right side of the page. Now when using the global direction changes that eomega/Gamma offers, this is trivial for a global right-to-left document (\pagedir TRT and \bodydir TRT are the global settings), but in a globally left-to-right document I have not been able to get this to work locally. To explain: \textdir TRT and \pardir TRT locally switch the text and paragraph directions respectively, but not the footnote markers and rule. This is correct behavior of course. But I have an article that includes a long right-to-left extract with footnotes, and those footnotes need to be RL in the sense described above (numeral + rule). Is there any way to add a parameter option to \setupfoonotes which, between---say, a \start-\stop---that can locally switch the location of the numeral and marker to RL? Please help: I'm supposed to send this thing to the printer next week:-)) Best Idris PS \pagedir TRT and \bodydir TRT don't seem to help this proble when applied in a local context. -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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itemize, adobekb
by Thomas A.Schmitz 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

These are two very basic questions, but I couldn't find basic answers. Am quite willing to RTFM, but would be grateful for pointing to specific sections. So here comes: 1) Is it possible to have something in front of the number in numbered itemize-groups? Like LatTeX-style [1] etc. All I could find was the "stopper= " setup, but nothing for "starters." 2) The adobekb typescript is now part of the context macro package, right? (tex/context/base/type-akb.tex). But whenever I have this in my documents: \usetypescript[adobekb][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[pos,12pt] everything works well, my document is typeset in times, but I get this error: bodyfont : unknown variant pos What gives? Has "pos" been replaced by a new magic formula? All best Thomas

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accents in "funny frame"
by olivier Turlier 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Hello Contexers, I play with the "funny frame" code given by Hans et al. How put accentuation (french) in the frame title ? I use latest context .iso image (ConTeXt ver. 2004.6.21 fmt: 2004.6.21 int: english mes: english) Below is the source (compiled with : texmfstart texexec.pl --autopdf --pdf funny-french-frame.tex): ---------------------------------------- %funny-french-frame.tex \enableregime[il1] \useencoding[ffr] \mainlanguage[fr] \enableregime[windows] \setupindenting[medium] \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] \setupcolors[state=start] %---------------------------------------------------- funny frame \startMPenvironment \enableregime[il1] % \useencoding[ffr] % \mainlanguage[fr] % not working \enableregime[windows] % \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,14pt] \stopMPenvironment % \startuseMPgraphic{FunnyFrame} %--------- white background, blue square frame % picture p; numeric w, h, o; % p:=textext.rt(\MPstring{FunnyFrame}); % w:=OverlayWidth; h:=OverlayHeight; o:=BodyFontSize; % p:=p shifted (2o,h-ypart center p); draw p; % drawoptions (withpen pencircle scaled 1pt withcolor .625blue); % draw (2o,h)--(0,h)--(0,0)--(w,0)--(w,h)--(xpart urcorner p, h) ; % draw boundingbox p; % setbounds currentpicture to unitsquare xyscaled (w,h); % \stopuseMPgraphic \startuseMPgraphic{FunnyFrame} %---------- grey background, red randomized frame picture p ; numeric o ; path a, b ; pair c ; p := textext.rt(\MPstring{FunnyFrame}) ; a := unitsquare xyscaled(OverlayWidth,OverlayHeight) ; o := BodyFontSize ; p := p shifted (2o,OverlayHeight+ypart center p) ; drawoptions (withpen pencircle scaled 1.5pt withcolor .625red) ; b := a randomized (o/2) ; fill b withcolor .95white ; draw b ; %---- color of main text c := center p ; c := b intersectionpoint (c shifted (0,-o)--c shifted(0,o)) ; p := p shifted (c-center p) ; b := (boundingbox p) randomized (o/4) ; fill b withcolor .90white ; draw b ; %----- color of title draw p withcolor blue ; setbounds currentpicture to a ; \stopuseMPgraphic \defineoverlay[FunnyFrame][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}] \defineframedtext[FunnyText][frame=off,background=FunnyFrame] \def\StartFrame{\startFunnyText} \def\StopFrame{\stopFunnyText} \def\FrameTitle#1% {\setMPtext{FunnyFrame}{\hbox spread 3em {\ss\bf\hss\strut#1\hss}}} \setMPtext{FunnyFrame}{} %------------------------------------------------------- \setupheadertexts[\currentpage~/~\lastpage] \starttext \FrameTitle{Introduction } \StartFrame On présente tout ce qui a un rapport avec {\it l'origine} du stage \StopFrame \page \FrameTitle{Développement} %---------------------- accent not working \StartFrame On présente tout le {\it déroulement} du stage, par groupe de tâches \StopFrame \page \FrameTitle{Conclusion} \StartFrame \startlines On {\it analyse} le stage point par point -- négatif et positif -- on {\it synthétise} l'ensemble des apports, et on entrevoit le {\it futur} professionnel {\it concrètement} \stoplines \StopFrame \page \stoptext --------------------- Thanks for your answer(s) -- olivier TURLIER

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