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Re: [dev-context] [Fwd: [NTG-context] Re: storm font]
by Adam Lindsay 11 Apr '05

11 Apr '05

Hans Hagen said this at Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:21:09 +0200: >t-type-xxx.txx > >of course we can set up some mechanism for assigning names, but for the >moment >the additional t- prefix sounds ok to me Without extra support, won't that run into name length problems with module loading? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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iso latin 2
by Hans Hagen 11 Apr '05

11 Apr '05

I wonder, \definecharacter Aring {\ilencodedrA} \definecharacter Lstroke {\ilencodedL} \definecharacter lstroke {\ilencodedl} where do these come from? is that because csr does not provide those glyphs? (which makes il2 like aer (almoet ec) something almost il2 -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Another font problem
by Thomas A.Schmitz 11 Apr '05

11 Apr '05

I just ran into a smallish yet annoying font problem. After getting the Adobe Type Classics for Learning CD, I prepared a couple of fonts for work with ConTeXt. I was mostly successful. I wanted to have a Garamond with oldstyle figures as default, so I used a custom encoding vector; the only difference to texnansi was zerooldstyle etc instead of zero etc. This works well, but: in German, (mainlanguage[de]), I can't get the baseline double quotes to work. In the "normal" Garamond, "` in the source produces the desired result. In the oldstyle Garamond, I don't get the ligature (character 132 in texnansi), but instead what appears to be two commas juxtapposed. I assume this is some fallback defined somewhere. So the question is: what feature defines this ligature? It is language-specific and works only wihtin German text. And, more importantly: why doesn't this work with my modified texnansi-variant? Best Thomas

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Font encoding: \uppercased
by David Wooten 11 Apr '05

11 Apr '05

Greetings all, Taco mentioned the command \uppercased{to get all uppercase letters}, and it works just fine…until I try to use my self-installed fonts. The quirks come up with diacritics, and this leads me to believe that there is an [encoding] or [regime] issue here, as I had similar issues earlier with the font in general. For example, with \uppercased{Krübel} I receive: KRüBEL. Do I need to "make a statement of my intent" in a typescript file or somewhere else to resolve this? Kind regards, David

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table won't break across page
by Paul Tremblay 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

I am trying to create a table that breaks across pages. I used the example from the wiki. The table repeated its headers like it should have, but it did not break across a page; it stuck the table on one page. Here is an excerpt from the file: \placetable[here][tab:insurance]{Percentage of People without health insurance in US}{\start \starttablehead \HL \VL State \VL 3-year average(2001-2003) \VL 2-year average(2001-2002) \VL\SR \stoptablehead \starttabletail \HL[4] \stoptabletail \starttables[|l w(30mm)|l|l|] \VL Alabama \VL 13.3 \VL 13.5 \VL\FR \HL \VL Alaska \VL 17.8 \VL 18.8 \VL\MR \HL ... \stoptables \stop} Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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RE: [NTG-context] Open Type trickery [was Re: Encoding and mapping glyphs from an expert font
by Idris Samawi Hamid 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

>===== Original Message From "Adam Lindsay" <atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk> ===== >Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:27:21 -0600: >>While we will still need huge fonts, the processing of complicated accents >>should be much faster with the approach I have in mind (smaller otp's and >>ovf's). >It sounds a bit tricky with the eTeX line, because of the 256-character- >per-TeX-font limit. Aleph gives us 64,000-characters/font plus etex so that's not a problem. But with some font/otp creativity we can still get some rather small fonts (compared to the 10,000-character ovfs I'm using now...) >Not necessarily impossible, but certainly >contortionate. I'm led to think about XeTeX--a fair number of people on >the list are happy with the AAT/OpenType support they get with some very >sophisticated Arabic fonts. If you can have one of your friends send me some pdf samples, that would be nice. I am especially interested in accent handling over ligatures. OTOH, I have yet to see a normal Arabic-script font with a full accent palette plus a very complete set of ligatures (except mine of course->) Yes, there are certainly some (outrageously expensive) Mac programs that come with really beautiful and complete calligraphy Arabic fonts; I'll have to have a look at those one day... >And when you consider the educational price >of a Mac mini, you're still way below the price of some software >packages... :) I'll look into it (Hans made a similar suggestion to me a few days ago), though my own goal with my Arabic-script package is platform independence. OTOH, aleph has much better bidi/large font/transcription support than pdfetex. Maybe I will come to a TeX conference and lobby for integration of these two. Then all will be well in the world... Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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RE: [NTG-context] Encoding and mapping glyphs from an expert font
by Idris Samawi Hamid 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

Hi Adam, Thank you so much for your help... >===== Original Message From "Adam Lindsay" <atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk> ===== >Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:02:51 -0600: > >>By the way, I still don't understand how placing, e.g., /zerooldstyle in the >>respective /zero position in an encoding file will instruct LatinModern to >>pick up the glyph from cmmi10. In, for example, >> >>==================================================== >>texnansi-lmb10 LMRomanDemi10-Regular <texnansi-os-lm.enc <lmb10.pfb >>==================================================== >> >>How does ConTeXt know that /zerooldstyle is to be mapped to cmmbi10? >>I must be missing something.... > >I think I'm missing something from your description. What markup are you >using in your source in order to ascribe these magical properties to OldStyle? >Are you aware of the default mapping of OldStyle to MathItalic? Well, Hans claimed this could be done without virtual fonts, and I was trying to follow his implementation. Could you tell me where the default mapping of OldStyle to MathItalic is documented/implemented in the sources? Maybe I could make a similar mechanism for my normal-expert dyad. Best and thnx a million Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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good-looking tables in context
by Eckhart Guthöhrlein 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

Hi all, I have to present a lot of numerical data in tables. However, I don't know how to achieve aesthetically pleasing results in context. (Ex)-Latex users may know the booktabs package which is a great help in this respect. I would like to achieve the same in context now. I have attached a small example file (source and pdf). Let me draw your attention to the most important points: - There are rules of different thickness for top, bottom, and middle rules. - The spacing between rows before / after / around the rules is nicely adjusted automatically. - Rules not spanning all columns, like the one in the header, can be trimmed at the left and the right so that they do not extend entirely to the start/end oft the first/last column. I think all three features are essential for convenient typesetting of tables with acceptable output. How can I produce this in context? I am aware of the different table mechanisms. As far as I have seen in the available documentation, none of them is currently suited for what I want. Or am I wrong? I hope so, and I am grateful for your hints and comments. Regards, Eckhart

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can't get table to work
by Paul Tremblay 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

I am trying to create a table with the middle cell merged vertically. I am trying to draw bottom lines for the left and right columns: Alabama 13.3 13.5 ------- ----- Alaska 17.8 18.8 Here is my table: \placetable[here][tab:insurance]{Percentage of People without health insurance in US} \starttable[|l w(30mm)|l|l|] \HL \VL State \VL 3-year average(2001-2003) \VL 2-year average(2001-2002) \VL\SR \HL[4] \VL Alabama \VL 13.3 \VL 13.5 \VL\FR \DL \DC \DL \DR \VL Alaska \VL 17.8 \VL 18.8 \VL\MR \HL \VL Arizona \VL 17.3 \VL 16.9 \VL\LR \HL \stoptable \stoptext I am getting the following error message: ! Extra alignment tab has been changed to \cr. <template> \endtemplate \!ttLongHrule ->\omit \span \omit \span \!ttShortHrule \next ->&\normalTABLElongrule & \complexTableDL ...handleTABLEerror \fi \fi \next \fi \complexorsimpleTable ...fi \c!Table #1\endcsname #2 l.14 \DL \DC \DL \DR What am I doing wrong? Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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RE: [NTG-context] Encoding and mapping glyphs from an expert font
by Idris Samawi Hamid 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

Thank you very much for responding, Thomas. >===== Original Message From "Thomas A.Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz(a)uni-bonn.de> ===== >I am not sure I have understood everything you write, but here's a very >brief outline of what I think you need to do. There are two cases you >need to consider: I am in case 1: pfb-normal + pfb-expert >1. You have more than one font (this seems to be your case), normally >these will be postscript type1 fonts (extensions .pfb or .pfa). If you >want to mix characters from two fonts (say, normal letters from font A, >oldstyle numerals and maybe small caps from font B), you can most >easily do this via a virtual font. It's not too hard; I wrote a small >how-to which you can find on CTAN >(http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/virtualfontshowto/?action=/tex- >archive/info/) <snip> >So there is no simple answer to your question. TeX knows to pick up >zerooldstyle instead of zero either >1. because you have a virtual font that says MAPFONT 1, so it knows it >will have to use a different pfb than for the rest, or >2. because the encoding file points to character zerooldstyle within >the ttf. Ok, but Hans explicitly claimed to have done this for Latin Modern without virtual fonts, only encoding trickery (I'll c if I can find that message). Actually, I was really surprised when Hans said he could do this without virtual fonts, and have always been eager to learn the trick;-> With Alan Hoenig's help almost 2 years ago I contructed a complete virtual font for old style cmr using virtual fonts; I guess I can do that again (though with a non-TeX font I'm scared;-> I'll read your how-to). On the other hand, how will TeXFont handle virtual fonts? What does TeXfont need to do this correctly? Or do we just forget about TeXFont? Thanks again! Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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