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Problem with German quotes and kerning
by Thomas A. Schmitz 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hi all, this seems to be a general TeX-problem, not ConTeXt specific, but I'm not sure I understand the details. Here's the problem: when I use mainlanguage[de], I can type "` to get German opening quotes, \quotedblbase „. However, this characters needs some (a lot of) kerning when it comes before, e.g., W or V; it is too far away from the following character. Most font-designers don't care about German typography, so I tried and added the kerning manually. But this works only if I input the character directly via the keyboard or via the symbolic name, it does not work with "` (nor with \quotation{ }); language German seems to make the ` active. In emacs, I find "` the most convenient way to input German quotes. Is there a way to have kerning with this input, or do I have to change my habits? Best Thomas

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request about combinations
by Hans van der Meer 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

A modest request, that is probably in principle not too difficult to fulfil. With many commands (\framed for example) I can do a setup for general behaviour and do something special at the actual call. Like this: \setupframed[options...] \framed[individual options ...] It would be pleasant if I could do the same with combinations, but there I do not get to work a similar behaviour: \setupcombinations[align=middle,location=top] \startcombination[2*1][location=middle] Is it an option for Hans to build this into the code? It would also make ConTeXt's behaviour more regular if every command that has a \setupcommand[options] would always allow \command[options]. If some have it and some not it "strains the brain". yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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setuptyping
by Hans van der Meer 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

I get some unexpected results with setuptyping. According to the manual the style-parameter has options normal, bold, small, etc. But if I use them I get the option back. The only thing that seems to work is style=command. Example: \setuptyping[style=bold] \starttext \starttyping abcd \stoptyping \stoptext Results in typeset text "boldabcd" yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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setupindenting and formula
by Renaud AUBIN 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hi all, I use \setupindenting[medium,yes] in my document. When I use: ________________________________________________________________________________ \placeformula[GiPivel] \startformula \frac{\overrightarrow{G_iP_i}}{\Delta T} = \frac{d_i.\vec{y_i} + \delta_i.\vec{t_i}}{\Delta T} = -\dot{\theta_i}.\vec{z_i} \wedge l_i.\vec{x_i}+ V_i.\vec{x_i} = -\dot{\theta_i} l_i.\vec{y_i}+ V_i.\vec{x_i} \stopformula Test sentence to check indenting. ________________________________________________________________________________ The test sentence is not indented... Consequently, I have tried: ________________________________________________________________________________ \indent Test sentence to check indenting. ________________________________________________________________________________ Unfortunately, the test sentence isn't indented... To indent or not to indent, that is the question !!! ;-) Renaud

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eqalign name clash
by Hans van der Meer 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

I am afraid that the update of today (28-1-2006) also has generated a problem. This used to work (just a plaintex \eqalign) \starttext \placeformula\startformula \matrix{a&b\cr c&d\cr} \eqalign{ a &= b\cr pq &= t+1\cr } \stopformula \stoptext I see in core-mat.tex a macro \eqalign#1 (line 1514). It is new I think, but its name CLASHES with the standard TeX \eqalign math macro. I do not think that wise and had to comment it out in my working copy. Everything being fine again after that. yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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error in patterns treatment?
by Hans van der Meer 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Installing the latest context release (cont-tmf only) I now get the following errors when generating the format: (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/patterns/lang-de.pat ! Nonletter. l.113 .ge5r[ odiaeresis] (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/patterns/lang-de.pat ! Nonletter. l.140 .k[ udiaeresis]5ra etc. The same occurred with the french patterns, others I did not test. Changing back to context version of 16-1-2006 brought everything back to normal. Has something in the system changed? yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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texexec --version
by Peter Münster 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hello, "texexec --version" creates always the files texvers-mpgraph.mp and mpgraph.mp. Is this really necessary? It's not a real problem, since I can make a script "texversion.sh": #!/bin/sh texexec --version rm -f texvers-mpgraph.mp mpgraph.mp Greetings, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

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no overfull hbox warning
by Peter Münster 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hello, unfortunately there is no overfull \hbox warning message, when the line is too long in a section title or a float caption: \starttext \section{\dorecurse{100}x} \placefigure{\dorecurse{100}x}{bla} \stoptext In general, I think there should be more error- or warning-messages in ConTeXt, so that one can grep the output for the words "error" or "warning" to test if all is ok. Quite often, you see a problem only in the pdf-file, but there is no warning message in the output (font issus for example). In this area, LaTeX is much better... Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

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Re: [NTG-context] Dropped caps, \startlines\stoplines, and indentation question
by Adrian Drury 29 Jan '06

29 Jan '06

Radhelorn wrote: > > Adrian Drury wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm having trouble using dropped caps within \startlines\stoplines. > > I'm trying to typeset some poetry and I'm using > > \setuplines[space=yes]. I'd like to use dropped caps and have the > > indented lines be additionally indented by any space at the beginning > > of the lines. > > > > See the following example - the first part shows roughly the result I > > want (but with manual formatting/spacing), the second part shows the > > result of \DroppedCaps inside \startlines\stoplines, and the third > > part uses the lettrine module. The lettrine module comes close, but > > Nindent doesn't seem to affect the indented lines within > > \startlines\stoplines. > > > > \usemodule[lettrine] > > \def\MyDroppedCaps% > > { \DroppedCaps > > {} {Serif} {2\baselineskip} {2pt} {1\baselineskip} {2} > > } > > \setuplines[space=yes] > > > > \starttext > > \MyDroppedCaps S{\sc umer} is icumen in,\crlf > > \hbox to .6em{}Lhude sing cuccu!\crlf > > Groweth sed, and bloweth med,\crlf > > \hbox to .6em{}And springth the wude nu---\crlf > > \hbox to 3.3em{}Sing cuccu! > > > > \startlines > > \MyDroppedCaps S{\sc umer} is icumen in, > > Lhude sing cuccu! > > Groweth sed, and bloweth med, > > And springth the wude nu--- > > Sing cuccu! > > \stoplines > > > > \startlines > > \lettrine{S}{umer} is icumen in, > > Lhude sing cuccu! > > Groweth sed, and bloweth med, > > And springth the wude nu--- > > Sing cuccu! > > \stoplines > > \stoptext > > > > Any suggestions for how to do this? I'm a beginning ConTeXt user, so > > if there's a better/different way to do this, I'd be happy to hear it! > > > > Also, I read the list in digest form. For the benefit of people using > > threaded mail readers, is there a better way to reply to individual > > messages than replying to the digest message and editing the Subject > > line appropriately? > > > > Thanks very much, > > Adrian Drury > > _______________________________________________ > > ntg-context mailing list > > ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > > > > > Try > > \startlines > \vbox{\lettrine{S}{umer} is icumen in,\crlf Lhude sing cuccu!} > Groweth sed, and bloweth med, > And springth the wude nu--- > Sing cuccu! > \stoplines > > -- > Radhelorn < radhelorn(a)mail.ru> > Thank you very much for your suggestion - it does most of what I want to do. I have a follow-up question if anybody would like to provide more help! Because lines in \startlines\stoplines with \setuplines[space=yes] can be indented by space characters, I want to set Nindent for the dropped cap to (N * <width of space character>), so lines can be indented by the exact same amount they would be with spaces in \startlines\stoplines. Is there a way to calculate the width of some number of characters (or a string of characters) to use as a dimension parameter? For example, a macro that returns the width in points of 5 space characters in the current font? I figured hardcoding the width of a space as a percentage of an em might work, but would probably not be consistent across fonts. Is that true, or is it really that simple? I'd also be happy with a way to preserve spaces in the text inside the vbox (and ignore any Nindent dimension calculation), because then I could just add the appropriate number of spaces for indentation after the \crlf, like this: \vbox{\lettrine{S}{umer} is icumen in,\crlf <2 spaces>Lhude sing cuccu!}, as I do in \startlines\stoplines. Thanks very much, Adrian Drury

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Lettrine and \startnarrower question
by Adrian Drury 29 Jan '06

29 Jan '06

Hello, Using \lettrine (version 2005.08.29) inside \startnarrower\stopnarrower gives results I didn't expect - see the example below. Part of the text seems to be shifted right by an additional left-indent amount. Is this correct and/or expected behavior? If it is, is there a workaround to shift it back? \usemodule[lettrine] \starttext \input knuth \startnarrower \lettrine{T}{est} \input knuth \stopnarrower \stoptext Thanks, Adrian Drury

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