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MikTeX and XeTeX now available
by Mojca Miklavec 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Dear all MikTeX fans, Just to let you know: MikTeX 2.7 beta 3 should work OK with ConTeXt & XeTeX (with yesterday's ConTeXt update). I have experienced some problems with fontconfig & admin rights, but in general it could or should be OK (I didn't try the very latest version). If you experience any problems, they should be reported. Mojca PS for Hans: the -tcx flag removal has been implemented at exactly the right moment, since it doesn't work on MikTeX under windows.

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beta
by Hans Hagen 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Hi, beware, i uploaded a new beta but when you use mkiv, you really need the latest luatex, so best wait til that one is available or compile yourself (no pattern preloading, runtime loading of patterns) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] integrating context mkiv, luatex, and fmtutil, mktexlsr, etc
by Norbert Preining 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

On Mi, 03 Okt 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: > formats go to the paths defined in texmf.cnf (TEXFORMATS) and the > filedatabses go alongside the ls-R files, so basically it then behaves > like any other tex ??? "file databases go alongside the ls-R files" what do you mean? I thought the stuff generated by luatools is something like the ls-R database for luatex. But it is placed NOT alongside the ls-R files, right? > the cache path is only used and populated at runtime, so So every time I run a luatex/context document it has to read ALL the trees again??? Cannot be, that was the whole point of ls-R/cache. It should be generated once (the cache). > LUATEXCACHE=$TEXMFVAR/luacache:... > TEXMFSHARECACHE=yes > > should be ok then; if needed, later i can look into a way to share other > cache stuff (say that you generate tmc files for 300 fonts at > installation time) but if i understoof right, the main reason was > formats and file databases Yes, currently the main reason is for ls-R replacement and format location. But font data could be useful, too. My system has quite a lot of fonts ... On Mi, 03 Okt 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: > texexec --make --luatex en [...] > this depends on the value of TEXFORMATS nd what path is first writable Hmm, $ export TEXFORMATS=/home/norbert/.texmf-var/web2c $ texexec --make --luatex en ... TeXExec | using tex engine luatex TeXExec | using tex format path /home/norbert/.texmf-var/web2c/luatex TeXExec | generating tex format cont-en ... Transcript written on cont-en.log. LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.18 seconds TeXExec | no lua compilations needed TeXExec | TeXExec | tex engine path: /home/norbert/.texmf-var/web2c/luatex TeXExec | TeXExec | TeXExec | runtime: 9.486118 $ ls ~/.texmf-var/web2c/luatex $ ls -l ~/luatex-cache/context/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da/formats/ -rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 5669003 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.fmt -rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 38786 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.log -rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 159484 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.lua -rw-r--r-- 1 norbert norbert 112438 2007-10-03 14:07 cont-en.luc $ So the format is placed in some strange ;-) place under luatex-cache. > btw, reminds me ... is this becoming a cross distribution linux > convention (was already so on the mac) ... no longer root users, but > always a sudu needed? No, Debian does not install sudo at all per default. There is a real root user. ------------- To sum it up: It is a bit unclear what purpose the cache is used for: - ls-R replacement, ie some sort of file database - preprocessed font data cache so that loading the stuff is done faster - formats??? what is saved for this But all of this is somehow static. On a normal system a normal user shouldn't have the necessity to change anything of the above. That should be done at install time of the respective stuff. Furthermore, the cache could be used (no idea whether this is true) for: - single job caching of data wouldn't it be better to keep generated files like this in the cwd, like .aux, etc files - caching of user files like the above, but initiated by the user Again, I don't see any other use than these ones, but please enlighten me what else it is used for. But in this case some mktexlsr-ish approach would make sense. So suggestion, like any TEXMF tree contains a ls-R file, we could have for any TEXMFTREE a lcache/ directory $tree/lcache/ which contains the cache for this tree. Since luatools and other things extract the texmf trees anyway from the TEXMFCNF variable, the cache could be read from there. What was the reason to do the hashing somewhere else but add the md5sums etc for these trees? Best wishes Norbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Norbert Preining <preining(a)logic.at> Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <preining(a)debian.org> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AINSWORTH (n.) The length of time it takes to get served in a camera shop. Hence, also, how long we will have to wait for the abolition of income tax or the Second Coming. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff

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quote characters in luatex
by Thomas A. Schmitz 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

In my experiments with luatex, there's one thing that may be surprising for many users: we have come to expect that the characters ` and ' in our input files map to single left and single right quotation marks. luatex just typesets them "verbatim," so to speak. It converts the combination `` and '' to double quotation marks, however. So my question: wouldn't it make sense to convert the single marks as well? (And please don't tell me "Oh but you should use \quote {} instead of ` '." I know that, but I guess that many users have hundreds of old documents where they use `'. Moreover, ' also creates the apostrophe character, which cannot be avoided.) Best Thomas

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Call for test documents
by Norbert Preining 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Dear all, I am currently testing the installation of ConTeXt/MkIV on Debian and thus being in search for test documents using MkIV features/luatex stuff. Or at least document which I can/should be able to process with luatex/context. If you have any documents it would be great if you could send me them, best together with a short line on HOW to process the documents, and even better with a "correct" pdf output. This way I can do proper checking. Thanks a lot and all the best Norbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Norbert Preining <preining(a)logic.at> Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <preining(a)debian.org> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THRUMSTRER (n.) The irritating man next to you in a concert who thinks he's (a) the conductor, (b) the brass section. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff

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a question about formula labels: letters preceding numbers
by Jesse Alama 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

I'd like to typeset equations like these: <some formula> (S1) <another formula> (S2) >From the documentation, I can see how to produce labels such as "1S", with the "S" following the equation number, but I don't yet see how to make the "S" come in front. Since there are only two such equations in the particular document that I'm working with, a brutish one-off solution would suffice. But a method for prefixing a letter to a number (rather than the other way around) would be nicer. Thanks, Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama(a)stanford.edu)

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX on Mac OS X
by Jeong Dalyoung 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Dear Hans, Thank you for your concern. There is no non-ascii character in folder names except ~/Documents/. And the TeX directory is /usr/local/texlive/{2007, texmf-local}/... By the way, where is setuptex command which can be used in Mac? I tried before as in the wiki, but it couldn't find such a command. Thank you again. Best regards, Dalyoung

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bibtex startup
by Andrea Valle 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

Dear all, I'd like use bibtex support. It's my first time in ConTeXt I took a look at the wiki: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography but cannot understand exactly. 1. I created a bibTest.bib file containing: ______________ %% Created for Andrea Valle at 2007-10-02 17:37:21 +0200 %% Saved with string encoding Western (ASCII) @article{trezegol, Author = {Trezeguet, David}, Date-Added = {2007-10-02 17:32:32 +0200}, Date-Modified = {2007-10-02 17:37:19 +0200}, Journal = {Soccer International Journal}, Title = {How to score}, Year = {2007}} ______________ 2. I created in the same folder a bibTest.tex file with this: \usemodule[bib] \usemodule[bibltx] \setupbibtex[database=xampl] \starttext As \cite[trezegol] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric program. \completepublications \stoptext 3. I compiled following the three steps indicated by the wiki texexec --once bibTest bibtex bibTest texexec bibTest Following the example, I have not indicated explicitly in the tex file the name of the biblio file. I guest it is implied by the tex file name (or not?) In any case, I'm having this as a ref (Xxxxxxxxxx, 0000) plus a new page with Reference intuitively empty. What am I missing? Thanks a lot -a- -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> andrea.valle(a)unito.it -------------------------------------------------- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong)

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX on Mac OS X
by Dalyoung Jeong 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

Dear Hans, Thank you for the reply. Here is the codes of luatools.lua from line number 1106 - %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 1106: if md5 then do 1107: local function convert(str,fmt) 1108: return (string.gsub(md5.sum(str),".",function(chr) return string.format(fmt,string.byte(chr)) end)) 1109: end if not md5.HEX then function md5.HEX(str) return convert(str,"% 02X") end end if not md5.hex then function md5.hex(str) return convert(str,"% 02x") end end if not md5.dec then function md5.dec(str) return convert(stt,"% 03i") end end end end %%%%%%%%%%%%% Since most people didn't have the problem in installation. it reminded me a problem when I installed the XeTeX a long time ago. After installed files of XeTeX, I tried to make a format, but I couldn't succeed. I reported the error message to XeTeX mailing list, but every one had no problem to install and to make a format. They said that it was good in their system. Finally Jonathan found that it was related with my OSX(OSX korean version) even though I put english at the top priority in the preference panel. He installed korean in his system to locate the problem and removed the problems. Is this problem related with my OSX? I hope that the line 1108 gives you a clue of my problem. Thank you. Best regards, Dalyoung

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How to process simple HTML files with LuaTeX
by Mojca Miklavec 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

Hello, I was trying to figure out how to process simple HTML files with the new code, but I fail to understand the details. Here's a simple file I would like to process: <html> <head> <title>My first HTML2ConTeXt</title> </head> <body> <h1>Main Title</h1> <p>Some text ...</p> <h2>Subtitle</h2> <p>Some text again ...</p> <h1>Second title</h1> <p>... and not much more text here either ...</p> </body> </html> And the failed tries here: % engine=luatex \setupcolors[state=start] \setuphead[subject][style=bfa,color=blue] \setuphead[subsubject][style=tfa,color=blue] \starttext \xmlload{main}{test.html}{} \xmlgrab{main}{h1}{h1} \xmlgrab{main}{h2}{h2} \startxmlsetups h1 \subject{H1: #1} \stopxmlsetups \startxmlsetups h2 \subsubject{H2: #1} \stopxmlsetups How to grab only the title out of here? \xmlfilter{main}{html/head/title} \xmlflush{main} \stoptext Any hints most wellcome. Thank a lot, Mojca

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