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Looking for itemize help
by Jim 16 Jan '24

16 Jan '24

I have \setupwhitespace [big] so that I get "a blank line" between paragraphs. I would like to *not* have "blank lines" before and after my items. For example, if there is more "paragraph text" after the last item I would like to see this structure: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Some text preceding the list of items: a. Item one. b. Second item. This sentence is part of the same paragraph. The next paragraph starts here... ------------------------------------------------------------------ and if there is no "paragraph text" after the last item, I'd like to see this structure: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Some text preceding the list of items: a. Item one. b. Second item. The next paragraph starts here... ------------------------------------------------------------------ Try as I might, I can't find the right options to give to \startitemize. The closest I have found is to start with \startitemize[a,nowhite] but that prevents the "blank line" even in the second case above, which is not what I want. Further, 'packed' and 'joinedup' seem to behave identically here, both leaving "a blank line" before the first item and after the last item. Clearly, I can force a blank line before the following paragraph with a \vskip<the right amount>, but that seems like a crude way to do it. Can someone either enlighten me on either (a) the Right ConTeXt Way to do this, or (b) a document that would tell me this, if I knew to read it? I've looked in the wiki, the not-so-short intro to ConTeXt, and "ConTeXt: an excursion" with no luck. Thanks. Jim

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Wiki update
by Taco Hoekwater 16 Jan '24

16 Jan '24

Hi all, I just updated the wiki ConTeXt to 20240108. The <context> tag on the wiki by default uses luametatex (LMTX), but if you want luatex instead (MKIV), you can still do that by using <context mode=“mkiv”>. There have been some problems recently because Hans’ new binaries needed a newer version of various system libraries. I fixed that this morning after Hraban spotted the issue, but it means that there may be wiki pages with ConTeXt processing errors in them now. These can be recognised by either the colorised “error” output, or some cryptic “copy failed” message instead of the actual output. If you see one of those pages, Edit it. For the colorised “error” output you need to make a tiny change to the example itself (because that “error” output is correct as far as the wiki software can tell, so you have to force it to regenerate). For the “copy failed” case, you just have to start an edit and then immediately save again. The wiki will autogenerate any missing examples on save. Best wishes, Taco — Taco Hoekwater E: taco(a)bittext.nl genderfluid (all pronouns)

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Limit of the size of the email message is 100KB.
by luigi scarso 16 Jan '24

16 Jan '24

Hi all, the ml has (as always as far as I can remember) the limit of 100KB for the maximum size of the message. I have noticed that lately several messages are over the limit, and all I can do is write to the sender and discard the message, and this could happen a couple of days later the message has been received. So...just stay within the limit, if you can. -- luigi

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Re: Looking for itemize help
by Jim 15 Jan '24

15 Jan '24

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 17:39 (+0100), Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Jim schrieb am 15.01.2024 um 01:42: >> I have >> \setupwhitespace [big] >> so that I get "a blank line" between paragraphs. >> I would like to *not* have "blank lines" before and after my items. For >> example, if there is more "paragraph text" after the last item I would like >> to see this structure: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Some text preceding the list of items: >> a. Item one. >> b. Second item. >> This sentence is part of the same paragraph. >> The next paragraph starts here... >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> and if there is no "paragraph text" after the last item, I'd like to see >> this structure: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Some text preceding the list of items: >> a. Item one. >> b. Second item. >> The next paragraph starts here... >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Try as I might, I can't find the right options to give to \startitemize. >> The closest I have found is to start with >> \startitemize[a,nowhite] >> but that prevents the "blank line" even in the second case above, which is >> not what I want. Further, 'packed' and 'joinedup' seem to behave >> identically here, both leaving "a blank line" before the first item and >> after the last item. >> Clearly, I can force a blank line before the following paragraph with a >> \vskip<the right amount>, but that seems like a crude way to do it. >> Can someone either enlighten me on either >> (a) the Right ConTeXt Way to do this, or >> (b) a document that would tell me this, if I knew to read it? >> I've looked in the wiki, the not-so-short intro to ConTeXt, and "ConTeXt: >> an excursion" with no luck. > Hi Jim, > such a feature exists only to suppress paragraph indentation but not to > ignore whitespace > between paragraphs. > \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] > \setupindenting[yes,medium] > \starttext > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa > turpis, > semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. Pellentesque habitant morbi > \unknown > \startitemize > \startitem Lorem ipsum \unknown \stopitem > \stopitemize > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa > turpis, > semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. Pellentesque habitant morbi > \unknown > \startitemize > \startitem Lorem ipsum \unknown \stopitem > \stopitemize > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa > turpis, > semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. Pellentesque habitant morbi > \unknown > \stoptext Hi Wolfgang, thanks for that information. I would have thought that what I want to do is not so unusual that ConTeXt does not have the ability to handle it, especially in light of the indentnext=auto feature which shows that (presumably) some people want to handle the text following \stopitemize differently, depending on whether or not the following text is part of the same paragraph. Perhaps I need to go and contemplate the sins of my formatting choices... :-) Jim

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too large dimension in current latest
by Pablo Rodriguez 15 Jan '24

15 Jan '24

Hi Hans, after updating to current latest (2024.01.08 11:23), I get the following error. This is triggered when compiling XML sources (with extra environment files), so it is not easy to get a minimal sample file. I wonder whehter the message itself could reveal what may be wrong here. Many thanks for your help, Pablo tex error > tex error on line 36 in file : Dimension too large <recently read> \emwidth <macro> \hyphenatedurl #1->\dontleavehmode \begingroup \expand \everyhyphenatedurl \normallanguage \zerocount \scratchskipone \zeropoint \s!plus \dimexpr \emwidth /12\s!minus \dimexpr \emwidth /24\relax \scratchskiptwo \zeropoint \s!plus \dimexpr \emwidth /48\s!minus \dime <argument> ...\strutdp \relax \setlocationattributes \setstrut \global \lastsavedreferenceattribute \lastreferenceattribute \c_attr_reference \lastreferenceattribute \dostarttagged \t!link \empty \urlstyle {\hyphenatedurl {\xmlflush {main::154}} }\dostoptagged <macro> \firstoftwoarguments #1#-->#1 <macro> \strc_references_goto ...rrentreferencehtdp \strutht \strutdp \relax \setlocationattributes \setstrut \global \lastsavedreferenceattribute \lastreferenceattribute \c_attr_reference \lastreferenceattribute \dostarttagged \t!link \empty #1\dostoptagged }{#1} \else #1\fi \ ... <macro> \mypersonalurl #1#2->\bgroup \goto {\urlstyle {\hyphenatedurl {#2}}}[url(#1)] \egroup {} ... <initial input> <empty file> I can't work with sizes bigger than about 19 feet (45 Theodores as of 2023), 575 centimeters, 2300 Toves, 230 Ediths or 16383 points. Continue and I'll use the largest value I can. mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1

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Linebreak in formual
by Shiv Shankar Dayal 15 Jan '24

15 Jan '24

I have following formula \sum_{k=0\\ k\equiv p + 1(\mathrm{mod}\;2)}^{p -1} but the \\ does not break the line below Sigma. How can I achieve this because AFAIK it will work in LaTeX? -- Respect, Shiv Shankar Dayal

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OT: special ToC
by Henning Hraban Ramm 15 Jan '24

15 Jan '24

I came across a table of contents style that’s hardly possible with TeX: https://historians.social/@dbellingradt/111760591144801241 (image is too big for the ML) (Yes of course you can do it with manual references and MetaPost lines…) ;D

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Spacing problem in formula
by Shiv Shankar Dayal 15 Jan '24

15 Jan '24

Suppose I want to typeset the formula: 1 - {}^nC_2\tan^2\theta + {}^nC_4 then it appears as if n is power of - and +. The same formula in LaTeX comes out nicely. Is there something I need to change? -- Respect, Shiv Shankar Dayal

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issue with \setuptyping (and XML sources)
by Pablo Rodriguez 14 Jan '24

14 Jan '24

Dear list, the issue I’m experiencing comes from XML sources typeset with ConTeXt. I have tried, but I found no way to get a minimal sample. For code fragments in the XML source, I use: \bgroup\xmlprettyprinttext{#1}{none}\egroup To which I apply: \setuptyping [style={\tt\wider}, margin=yes, align={right, broad}, blank={3*halfline}, before={\blank[3*halfline]}, after={\blank[3*halfline]}] Could anyone be so kind to explain me why the first three options from \setuptyping work (style, margin and alignment), and the other three don’t work at all? Sorry, I think it has to be a stupid mistake of mine (but I don’t know which one it might be). Many thanks for your help, Pablo

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conversion from realpage to pagenumber
by mf 14 Jan '24

14 Jan '24

Hello list, how do I convert the realpage number to a page number? Suppose you have a document with a frontmatter of 20 pages in roman numerals, followed by the main text starting from page 1 in arabic numerals. So the twelfth page is 'XII', while the twenty-second is '2'. How do I get 'XII' from 12 and '2' from 22? Massi

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