November 2013 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

Re: [NTG-context] ToC - right-alignment of roman numerals
by Hans Hagen 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

On 11/24/2013 10:49 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > On 2013-11-18 Jan Tosovsky wrote: >>> On 2013–06–03 Jan Tosovsky wrote: >>> in fresh MkIV I use the following commands for building ToC, but I >>> have no idea how to align the label (roman numeral) to the right. >> >> I am almost there, but things get complicated when chapters are >> combined with preface/index titles without numbering and thus aligned >> improperly: >> >> \setupcombinedlist[content][list=chapter, alternative=c] >> \setupcombinedlist[chapter][ >> distance=1em, >> width=1cm, >> >> numbercommand={\simplealignedbox{\listparameter{width}}{flushright}}, >> ] >> >> \starttext >> \completecontent >> >> \startfrontmatter >> \chapter{Preface}text >> \stopfrontmatter >> >> \startbodymatter >> \chapter{Chapter}text\index{primary} >> \stopbodymatter >> >> \startbackmatter >> \completeindex >> \stopbackmatter >> >> \stoptext >> >> Is there any way how to indent these non-numbered titles so that they >> start where the chapter title starts? > > I've fixed it by applying a margin to everything and setting a negative width to the numbers (distance = -width): > > \setupcombinedlist[chapter][ > distance=0.5cm, > width=-0.5cm, > margin=2cm, > numbercommand={\simplealignedbox{\listparameter{width}}{flushright}}, > ] > > I don't know exactly why it works, but it works :-) > \setupcombinedlist [content] [list=chapter, alternative=c] \setuplist [chapter] [aligntitle=yes, distance=1em, width=1cm] ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] Intermediate format
by Aditya Mahajan 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > On 2013-11-25 Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>>> On 11/24/2013 8:32 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>> is it possible to get the complete representation of the layout >>>>> that is processed in the luatex PDF generator? >>>>> >>>>> I mean coordinations of individual text boxes, their dimensions >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I'd like to retrieve the page number and vertical >>>>> position of my object with a specific id (reference) to be able >>>>> to perform PDF post-processing. >>>> >> >> \setposition{id} >> \message{id:\MPp{id};\MPy{id};\MPx{id}} >> >> should work (untested). Then you can parse the log file. > > This is coool! > > Is there any documentation to all this stuff? I cannot find anything in Wiki > or User Guide... Not really. See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/125486/323 (and its edit history) to see a usage of some more of these features. Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] Intermediate format
by Hans Hagen 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

On 11/25/2013 9:54 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > On 2013-11-25 Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>>> On 11/24/2013 8:32 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>> is it possible to get the complete representation of the layout >>>>> that is processed in the luatex PDF generator? >>>>> >>>>> I mean coordinations of individual text boxes, their dimensions >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I'd like to retrieve the page number and vertical >>>>> position of my object with a specific id (reference) to be able >>>>> to perform PDF post-processing. >>>> >> >> \setposition{id} >> \message{id:\MPp{id};\MPy{id};\MPx{id}} >> >> should work (untested). Then you can parse the log file. > > This is coool! > > Is there any documentation to all this stuff? I cannot find anything in Wiki > or User Guide... probably all over the place, but the metafun manual is one of them ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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large delimiters for equation
by Roger Mason 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

Hello, I'd like to have delimiters that match the height of the fraction in an expression like this: \startformula c\Delta T = t\big{(} \frac{c}{v_s} - \frac{c}{v_f} \big{)}. \stopformula I looked in the docs and tried a few likely solutions without luck. Please accept my apologies if this is documented eleswhere. Thanks, Roger

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Re: [NTG-context] Converting (a not so) normal font into bold
by "H. Özoguz" 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

> test code: > > \starttext > > \showotfcomposition{file:uthmanichafs1ver09.ttf*arabic}{r2l}{١} \page > \showotfcomposition{file:uthmanichafs1ver09.ttf*arabic}{r2l}{١ ١} \page > \showotfcomposition{file:uthmanichafs1ver09.ttf*arabic}{r2l}{١١} \page > > % \usemodule[fonts-coverage] > % \showfontcomparison[list=file:uthmanichafs1ver09.ttf] > > \stoptext Thank you very much, Hans! Now all issues with this font are solved (new issues within my actual project will surely follow, but no font-issues, I hope). I have to say once more, that I never had experienced before a such fast and competent software-support, that is at least as valuable as the software itself is! To your comments: Ok, yes, it is not a really normal font. It is specially designed for typesetting the holy quran (which is really no easy work). And there is so absolutely no problem that ALL numbers are mapped to ligatures -> there are no digits in the text of the holy quran :) (all numbers are written out at that time). Thanks again! Huseyin

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Re: [NTG-context] Intermediate format
by Aditya Mahajan 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > On 2013-11-25 Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 11/24/2013 8:32 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: >>> >>> is it possible to get the complete representation of the layout that >>> is processed in the luatex PDF generator? >>> >>> I mean coordinations of individual text boxes, their dimensions etc. >>> >>> Actually, I'd like to retrieve the page number and vertical position >>> of my object with a specific id (reference) to be able to perform PDF >>> post-processing. >> >> \starttext >> >> we are here: \setposition{crap}(\MPx{crap},\MPy{crap}) >> >> \stoptext > > Thanks! Looks promising, Actually I'd like to print it into a log or > somewhere else, not into the document itself. But I need also the page > number. Every record should be ideally in the form: ID;page-number;Y-coord. \setposition{id} \message{id:\MPp{id};\MPy{id};\MPx{id}} should work (untested). Then you can parse the log file. Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] Intermediate format
by Hans Hagen 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

On 11/25/2013 9:07 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > On 2013-11-25 Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 11/24/2013 8:32 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: >>> >>> is it possible to get the complete representation of the layout that >>> is processed in the luatex PDF generator? >>> >>> I mean coordinations of individual text boxes, their dimensions etc. >>> >>> Actually, I'd like to retrieve the page number and vertical position >>> of my object with a specific id (reference) to be able to perform PDF >>> post-processing. >> >> \starttext >> >> we are here: \setposition{crap}(\MPx{crap},\MPy{crap}) >> >> \stoptext > > Thanks! Looks promising, Actually I'd like to print it into a log or > somewhere else, not into the document itself. But I need also the page > number. Every record should be ideally in the form: ID;page-number;Y-coord. > >>> Is DVI way to go? How can I get it in MkIV? > > I've found that luatex can optionally output DVI [1], but I cannot find any > ConTeXt commandline switch to change the output format from PDF to something > else... indeed, no dvi ... it doesn't pay off to spend time on making all backend functionality multi-mode Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] Intermediate format
by Hans Hagen 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

On 11/24/2013 8:32 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote: > Dear All, > > is it possible to get the complete representation of the layout that is > processed in the luatex PDF generator? > > I mean coordinations of individual text boxes, their dimensions etc. > > In e.g. XSL-FO processors it is provided in the XML based formats: > > http://www.renderx.com/reference.html#IntermediateFormatSpecification > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/1.1/intermediate.html > > Actually, I'd like to retrieve the page number and vertical position of my > object with a specific id (reference) to be able to perform PDF > post-processing. > > Is DVI way to go? How can I get it in MkIV? old feature ... \starttext we are here: \setposition{crap}(\MPx{crap},\MPy{crap}) \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] Converting normal font into bold
by "H. Özoguz" 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

> i tried to reproduce your issue but gave up because of the fact that > it's unclear what (version) of the font is used ... you switched from 10 > to 09 and in 09 i see no 'big circular thing' so your version is > different from the one i donwload ... so, i cannot even be certain that > the font is okay ... so if you want to test: > > - make sure that you use fonts consistently > - make sure we know where to get that version of the font > - make sure that corel draw (or whatever) is using the same font You are right, sorry to annoy you here, some chaos in my place ... So, to clear all questions: for this min-example (which is at the moment my last unsolved problem with this font) I used this font: http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/download/UthmanicHafs1Ver09Font.zip And yes, Corel Draw uses this font, too. BUT: There might me some issue with this font relating this end-of-aya-symbol, independent from ConTeXt. See the attached JPG, which is the output of CorelDraw, if I input exactly the same arabic code, like in my example. You see in the picture a different behaviour between the one-digit and two-digit numbers aswell. But it is a different behaviour from ConText, the symbol is used, but the brackets are not replaced. Can you reproduce it now? Thanks! Huseyin

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Re: [NTG-context] Converting normal font into bold
by "H. Özoguz" 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

> It is my believe that Unicode has the wrong properties for Arabic > standalone Hamza; in short you should just type a regular Hamza in the > middle of the word and it will get positioned correctly. Placing a > combining Hamza over a Tatweel to “fake” it is wrong IMO. So in Amiri > you just type “بِءَايَٰتِ” and voilà, every thing is rendered correctly (the > same is true for the small Alef). Yes, that works. But the direct way works with Uhtmanic1HafsVer9: \definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt] \definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt] \starttext \setupalign[r2l] \arabicamiri بِـَٔايَـٰتِ \blank \arabicuth بِـَٔايَـٰتِ \stoptext To be honest, in Corel Draw UthmanicHafs is the perfect font for my purpose - at least in CorelDraw - e.g.: The ayat-numbers are printed as a unicode-symbol, not as numbers (perfect, because ConTeXt has problems with the direction with arabic numbers, they are mirrored in ConTeXt). But it is only perfect in CorelDraw, in ConTeXt some things are not recognized correctly, as I mentioned. E.g. this one: \definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt] \definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt] \starttext \setupalign[r2l] \arabicuth لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ ﴿٢﴾ \stoptext If I put the same arabic into CorelDraw, it prints a nice Unicode-Symbol for the number - see the JPG I have attached here, screenshot from CorelDraw, but ConTeXt ignores the brackets and prints just a verys small number. There are some problems like this. Are they easy to fix, or is this problem deeply involved? Huseyin

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