March 2011 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
by Henry House 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

Procházka Lukáš wrote: [...] > > 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? > > For LaTeX incomers: it would be good to provide a sample setup (module?) which would make Ctx generated .pdf looking very closely to that been generated by LaTeX. > > Now, if you see a .pdf document and you are familiar with LaTeX, you recognize immediately whether or not it was generated by LaTeX (Word's signature is also unmatchable). > > If you create a first document with ConTeXt (moreover when migrating from LaTeX), you probably won't be satisfied with the default look (letters too big, heads not bold, spacing before/after heads too different from LaTeX's; and the LaTeX default document looks very "symphonic" in my opinion) (but also I can imagine that many Ctx defaults cannot be changed due to backward compatibility reasons). > > The perfect feature of ConTeXt is that all these features may be systematically altered (often [almost] impossible in LaTeX) but you must search enough and study (and maybe ask the forum) to get the result which would fulfil your aesthetic requirements. I strongly agree that sample set-up code (ideally well-commented so that it also serves as a tutorial of sorts) to reproduce the style of LaTeX would be helpful. The appearance of LaTeX documents isn't perfect but it produces reasonably high-quality results suitable for complex technical documents right out of the box of the box without any tweaking, whereas ConTeXt requires (at least it did for me) some trouble to set it up for the first time. To some extent this is not because of the merit of the LaTeX design itself but the fact that it is familiar and therefore highly readable to someone used to reading it. It is also the point of departure for a LaTeX user wanting to convert to using ConTeXt; hence, i would imagine many such people would prefer to tweak a LaTeX-like document appearance to better suit their needs rather than starting with something quite different. Certainly, this was the case for me; being basically satisfied with my LaTeX documents but wanting more control and the option to use the advanced features of ConTeXt. Having sample set-up code that emulated LaTeX would have eased the initial transition for me.

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Putting citations in an e-book
by Cecil Westerhof 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

I am making my first e-book. And am now seriously using ConTeXt. But I have a lot to learn. In my ebook I want to use citations. In two different way. For starters I want to let every chapter start with a citation. At the moment I think that this does not need to be fancy. Just a little bigger font and a different color and white-space after it. But if there is a better way, I do not mind to hear it. The trickier part is in the text itself. I would like to use citations near the text itself. For example: when I write that you need to set goals to fulfill your potential, I like to have nearby the citation from Abraham Lincoln: 'A goal properly set is halfway reached'. I have this seen done in several way: with and without a surrounding box. With and without flowing text, etc. What is the best way to do this? On one side concerning the medium. (I think that an e-book asks for something else as a normal book.) On the other side concerning the best way to implement it in ConTeXt. -- Cecil Westerhof

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Re: [NTG-context] Am not getting Roman numeral page numbers in MKIV
by Jeong Dalyoung 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Dear Tom, > > What version are you using? > I am using minimal not TeXlive2010. Of course, there are some bugs in beta. But it would be fixed soon. Moreover, you can have more than one Minimal folder. So it is easy to use stable version if the beta has bugs. > > BTW, where did you read to use front part instead of frontmatter? > There was a thread whose title is "Roman Page numbers". And among the mails on 2009. 2. 4, there was a sample written by Wolfgang . \definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals] \definestructureconversionset[bodypart:pagenumber] [][numbers] \setuplist[chapter][pageconversionset=pagenumber] \startstructureblockenvironment[frontpart] \setupuserpagenumber[numberconversion=romannumerals] \setuppagenumber[number=1] \stopstructureblockenvironment \startstructureblockenvironment[bodypart] \setuppagenumber[number=1] \stopstructureblockenvironment \starttext \startfrontmatter \completecontent[criterium=all] \chapter{Intro} \input tufte \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter \chapter{knuth} \input knuth \stopbodymatter \stoptext Mailing list is a good place for me to learn ConTeXt. There are so many things which are not described in the manual. I cannot give you a solution. But many experts who are reading this list will give you a solution. Cheers, Dalyoung

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change interwordspace twice
by Steffen Wolfrum 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Hi, one time it works, the second it doesn't: \starttext \interwordspace 20.7pt Big Space \par \interwordspace 2.7pt Big Space \par \interwordspace 20.7pt Big Space \stoptext Does someone can explain how and when interwordspace is successfully set? Thanks a lot, Steffen (on Mark IV)

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$n\choose k$-issue with OpenType math fonts
by Andreas Harder 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Hi all, I'm (re)tying to draw some attention to the $n\choose k$-issue with OpenType math fonts. I've made some test files: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/151837/OpenType-Math.7z The best output is generated by LuaLaTeX (at least for Asana and Cambria). Would it be possible to correct the ConTeXt output as well? Regards Andreas

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why this error?
by Hans van der Meer 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Not so long ago no problems with typesetting. OK in ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.05 11:37 MKIV fmt: 2011.2.5 int: english/english Now in: ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV fmt: 2011.3.11 int: english/english an error: (.././literature.tex resolvers > modules > loaded: 'bib' (/Users/hans/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/m-obsolete.tex ! Undefined control sequence. system > tex > error on line 3 in file .././onderwijs.tex: Undefined control sequence ... 1 % $Revision: 43 $ $Date: 2011-02-15 14:31:42 +0100 (di, 15 feb 2011) $ 2 % Project file voor cryptografie onderwijsprodukties. 3 >> 4 \startproject onderwijs 5 6 % environment setup for all products 7 \environment mainsetup % algemene macros 8 \environment literature % citation setup 9 10 % environment setup for specific products 11 \startlocalenvironment[college] 12 \writestring{THIS IS FOR THE PRESENTATIONS ONLY} 13 \enablemode[screen] <argument> writestatus("\m!systems ",\!!bs skipping obsolete module\!!es ) \ctxcommand #1->\directlua \zerocount {commands.#1 } l.3 ...estatus\m!systems{skipping obsolete module} ? Process aborted Who can tell where this comes from and how it can be repaired? Hans van der Meer

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hanging on missing picture
by Hans van der Meer 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Requesting a non-existing picture does not produce a warning message, but makes ConTeXt hang. An abort is the only thing that helps. It would however be nice if a "missing file" warning is given. A minimal example that shows me the hang: \starttext Hello a picture?\par \externalfigure[./Figuren/figure.xxx] \stoptext

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Portable Context
by Siep Kroonenberg 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

For a usb stick install, it would be nice if there were no hard-coded paths anywhere. A texmfcnf.lua with content return { TEXMFCACHE = kpse.var_value('TEXMFSYSVAR') } appears to be read but ignored. Moreover, the fndb lua files under luatex-cache/context/xxx/trees contain hard-coded paths. Is there any way to avoid hard-coded paths? -- Siep Kroonenberg

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Re: [NTG-context] Verbatim text: intext & colors (mkiv)
by Reviczky, Adam 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

>> I’m Sorry, I missed the intext part. For MkIV you need “location=text” to move the numbers in the text. Yeah, I just figured it out, though there's still a "% todo: text" in page-lin.mkiv, but it works. >> Wolfgang Thanks again. Adam

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Re: [NTG-context] Verbatim text: intext & colors (mkiv)
by Reviczky, Adam 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

>> "Line numbers in the text" as well as > Works here with the last beta. I'm using the latest beta too. Attached is my PDF, do you get something different? I want to have intext numbers (inside the frame), not outside. As I said, works with mkii though. > /BTEX … /ETEX (for colors) don't work. > “option=commands” is now “escape=yes” Thanks, I've tried that too, but had another typo in there. So that's working now, thanks. Adam

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