April 2010 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

Help on \dostartbuffer needed
by Antoine Cailliau 28 Apr '10

28 Apr '10

Hi, I'm trying to deal with \dostartbuffer. I found an old message on the ML about \dostartbuffer http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg08222.html and its is pretty what I want except that I do not know how can I get access to the buffer :) For instance, \def\startLST[#1]% {\def\stopLST{End of #1}% \dostartbuffer[LST][startLST][stopLST]} \starttext \startLST[whatever] bla bla \stopLST alb alb \stoptext will print End of whateveralb alb. I just want to get the content blabla in \stopLST. I guess, it should not be hard :) Antoine

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Questions about \setuphead and \framed
by Michael Ewe 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Hi ConTeXt Gurus, enclosed please find a little snippet of code: %---snip--snip--snip--- \usetypescript[pagella] \setupbodyfont[pagella,rm,11pt] \definefont[FontA][Sans at 36pt] \definehead[ChapterA][chapter] \setuphead[ChapterA][command=\Cmd,style=\FontA] \definehead[ChapterB][chapter] \setuphead[ChapterB][command=\Cmd,textstyle=\FontA,numberstyle=\FontA] \def\Cmd#1#2{% \hbox{% {\framed[frame=on,offset=none,strut=1cm]{#1}} {\framed[frame=on,offset=none,strut=1cm]{#2}} } } \starttext \ChapterA{Test} \Cmd{\FontA 1}{\FontA Test} \hbox{% {\framed[frame=on,offset=none,strut=1cm]{\FontA 1}} {\framed[frame=on,offset=none,strut=1cm]{\FontA Test}} } \ChapterB{Test} \Cmd{\FontA 1}{\FontA Test} \hbox{% {\framed[frame=on,offset=none,strut=1cm]{\FontA 1}} {\framed[frame=on,offset=none,strut=1cm]{\FontA Test}} } \stoptext %---snip--snip--snip--- The code defines 2 chapter headings (ChapterA, ChapterB) and my assumption is, that the effect of setting "style=..." and "fontstyle=..., numberstyle=..." should be the same. As an additional test I included the usage of \Cmd and a manual copy of \Cmd in the normal text. If you run this through ConTeXt MkIV you will see: 1 The frames in the chapter both headings are much bigger than in the normal text. 2 The gap between the chapter number and the chapter name is different for chapter 1 (on page 1) and chapter 2 (on page 2). The word "test" is not aligned 3 The value of "strut" has no effect at all. I am trying to mimic a chapter style in a book of mine, but with the result above I am not sure about the tools to use. Best Regards from Germany, Michael Ewe

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Re: [NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
by Hans Hagen 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

On 27-4-2010 7:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > I was reading spac-ver.mkiv on gridsnapping values ... but didn't find the "local" switch. > > What's it about? using local interlinespace vs bodyfont related ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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the grid (MkIV)
by Steffen Wolfrum 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Hi, how can I exclude a section head from grid? Just compare setuplayout with grid=yes/no. Is there a solution? \showgrid \starttext \setuplayout[grid=yes]% [grid=no] \setuphead[chapter][grid=none] \chapter{one} \page \chapter{one\\line} \page \chapter{one\\line\\line} \stoptext Thanks, Steffen

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ConTeXt name/branding
by Scott Steele 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Sidenote: If anyone has ever considered changing the name of the ConTeXt project, I'd like to support that. Name consistency is important, but there are two unnecessary problems that the current name creates. The first is that the unusual capitalization and pronunciation are a barrier to new users. I've used macro packages in the TeX family for about four years now (though it seems much longer! I can't believe for how long I was putting out such ugly papers!), but I'm now consciously trying to remember to pronounce them as tecks, latecks, zeetecks, conteckst, etc, and to type them as Tex, Latex, Xetex, and Context (outside of this message/forum). The odd capitalization doen't win fans among people who appreciate typographic tradition, and the pronunciation requires that, instead of explaining first how powerful and useful these systems are, one explain the Greek chi and Donald Knuth. It doesn't give a good impression when one's first exposure to TeX involves being told one is wrong in how one pronounces a word that is less than 40 years old (The same goes for many open source projects). Further, if the name is brought up in conversation and piques the interest of a potential user, they will have a difficult time later searching for it when they type in contekt or conteckt. The second problem with the ConTeXt name is its shared spelling with context. When I google context and font, I get so many pages imploring me to consider the context of my document when choosing between Arial, Times New Roman, and Comic Sans. Many of the things I'll be searching for while using ConTeXt yield thousands of irrelevant pages because of how context can pop up in so many topics that share major keywords with the typesetting process. Of course, I myself am in no position to advocate a name change, and if the two issues I listed are the price for having a cutting-edge typesetting system, then I'm still a pretty happy camper. But if any of the people who have actually worked really hard to put this together have ever thought about bringing up a branding change, here's my two pence. Scott ----- This is a work of ﬁction. Names, characters, places, and incidents either are the product of the writer's imagination or are used ﬁctitiously, and any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, businesses, companies, events, or locales is entirely coïncidental.

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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode bibliography
by Michael Saunders 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Mojca Miklavec: > What still makes me wonder is tha fact that there are problems with > Unicode. I don't remember any, though I admit that I'm not sure if I > ever cited any non-English item. Well, using Taco's trick of surrounding every sting with braces, the record won't print out. If I surround only the non-ascii characters in braces, the record will print out, out of order and on top of other records.

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Multiple pleas for help (long)
by Scott Steele 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Hullo, all. I've been trying for 3 months now to get my last 2 years' worth of journal entries satisfactorily typeset for printing on lulu.com. This is my first major project using Context (with the Xetex engine—the current procedures required by Pdftex to set up and manage fonts are too intimidating for me (I {\em did} try it.)) as I'm no longer in school and had typeset the preceding year's worth of entries in Latex. I started to use (xe)Latex again this time but gave up in frustration with all of the predefined formatting, which I've moved away from as I've read more of Robert Bringhurst. Anyway, I have a number of problems. I apologize for putting them all into one message and for failing to find solutions elsewhere on the site. I've looked around a great deal, but am hampered in doing so by my limiting of my internet time with an {\sc ems} PowerCop (otherwise, I'd be on Wikipedia until they decided to lock me away). (I do my writing, editing, and typesetting on a little internet-crippled netbook with CrunchBang and Vim.) I'll include my current preämble information at the end of this message in case it is useful in addressing any of my issues. If they're addressed elsewhere, I'd be thrilled with links. If they're not, I'd greatly appreciate any help. I've found solutions to a number of previous problems, but here are all that I believe are in the way of my finishing this project: 1 How do I make bulleted lists not have lines between items in the list? 2 Is it possible to push the bullets for bulleted lists into the margin (and then have the text of each item start at the same level of indentation as normal text)? Also, given my target printing medium, this would require alteration of the space between the bullet mark and its text—how do I alter this and the glyph used as the bullet mark? 3 Is it possible to alter the way footnotes are displayed? I might want to have new footnotes follow previous ones with a 3-em space rather than starting a new line in the footer. And if I go that route, I'd need a way to pull the footer number in from the margin. 4 How can I adjust the formatting settings for the frontmatter (title page, table of contents) and backmatter (colophon, appendices, index). In general, I need to be able to set whether page numbers are used and what kind and positioning of the text on the page. In particular, how do I change the formatting for items in the table of contents (and what glyph/spacing go between the item's title and corresponding page number as well as how all of those elements are positioned)? 5 How can I have either unnumbered sections, or subjects that appear in the table of contents? 6 Does Xetex or Context have a facility for positioning accents over letters when those particular combinations are not in the font? (Or should I just go ahead and do this manually in Fontforge?) 7 Is there a built-in equivalent of the \fancybreak function from Latex? I think I know now how to put something like it together manually but don't want go the amateur route if there's something more polished available. 8 Since this is just a journal, I have used simple emoticons (don't laugh!). I tweaked a vector smiley from Wikimedia to get a frowny and slashy, and they work well except for when they end up on the first (printed) text line of a page. I have one page that has a subject title on the grid but that is followed by a (logical) line with a smiley that ends up on its first printed line. This printed line and all of the rest of the text on the page (including another subject title) sit several points (approx) lower than where they should (so that the grid lines bisect the bowls of all the lower-case a's). There is another page that does not start with a subject title but directly with a printed line containing an emoticon, and it has exactly the same problem as the first page, with the text sitting just low enough that the grid lines bisect the bowls of the lower-case a's. Pages with emoticons on them do not exhibit this problem when the emoticon is not on the first printed line, and all lines remain correctly positioned on the grid. You can see below how I'm putting in the emoticons. Many apologies for those answers that I failed to find, and thanks reading the whole message, Scott See my current preämble below: \version[final] \definepapersize[pocket][width=4.25in, height=6.875in] \setuppapersize[pocket][pocket] \setuplayout[location=middle, width=0.815\paperwidth, rightmargindistance=0in, leftmargindistance=0in, height=middle, margin=0.08\paperwidth, backspace=0.115\paperwidth, marking=off, grid=yes, topspace=0.018889\paperheight, header=0.044444\paperheight, footer=0.044444\paperheight, bottomspace=0.038889\paperheight] \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided, location={footer}] \setupinterlinespace[top=0.0] % `top=0.0' gets rid of unoccupied vertical white space at the top of the first line \setupwhitespace[big] % Turns on blank line between ¶’s \definetypeface[jenson][rm][Xserif][Adobe Jenson Pro] \setupbodyfont[jenson, 12pt] % Emoticons %—————————— \useexternalfigure[frowny][Frowny][factor=8,type=pdf] \def\Frowny{\hbox{\externalfigure[frowny]}} \useexternalfigure[smiley][Smiley][factor=8,type=pdf] \def\Smiley{\hbox{\externalfigure[smiley]}} \useexternalfigure[slashy][Slashy][factor=8,type=pdf] \def\Slashy{\hbox{\externalfigure[slashy]}} \setuptolerance[verytolerant] % Allows TeX to break lines even when doing so would be 'ugly' \showgrid \startfrontmatter \completecontent \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter \subject{2/25/08} ... ----- This is a work of ﬁction. Names, characters, places, and incidents either are the product of the writer's imagination or are used ﬁctitiously, and any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, businesses, companies, events, or locales is entirely coïncidental.

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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode bibliography
by richard.stephens＠converteam.com 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode bibliography
by Michael Saunders 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Mojca Miklavec: > Long ago (when I was still using JabRef) I was thinking about creating > support for export into ConTeXt-specific format. What do you use now? Is there something better?

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Re: [NTG-context] ! Undefined control sequence
by Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

> > What is the following command for: > > > > > \setvariables[tst][set={\setupTst[1][n,\getvariable{tst}{broad}*broa > d] > > }] > > > > This is enough, or are there any problems? > > > > \setupTst[1][n,\getvariable{tst}{broad}*broad] > > > To explain it with simpler macros > > \setvariables[tst][set={...}] is similar to > > \def\tstset{\setupTst[1][n,\tstbroad*broad]} > > and > > \setvariables[tst][broad=5] is similar to > > \def\tstbroad{5} > > but the special thing is now that \setvariables calls \tstset (or to > be concrete the value of the 'set' key in \setvariables after the) value was > assigned to broad. > > In a complete and simple example this is what happens: > > \defineitemgroup[Tst] > > \def\tstset{\setupTst[1][\tstbroad*broad]} > > \starttext > > \startTst > \item text > \stopTst > > \def\tstbroad{5}\tstset > > \startTst > \item text > \stopTst > > \stoptext > > Wolfgang > Hi Wolfgang, my question was: Why is this \setvariables[tst][set=... necessary at all. The following example worked without that. \defineitemgroup[Tst] \setupTst[1][n,\getvariable{tst}{broad}*broad] \starttext \startTst \item text \stopTst \setvariables[tst][broad=5] \startTst \item text \stopTst \setvariables[tst][broad=9] \startTst \item text \stopTst % \showvariable{tst}{broad} \stoptext Wolfgang

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