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Intermediate format
by Jan Tosovsky 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

Dear All, is it possible to get the complete representation of the layout that is processed in the luatex PDF generator? I mean coordinations of individual text boxes, their dimensions etc. In e.g. XSL-FO processors it is provided in the XML based formats: http://www.renderx.com/reference.html#IntermediateFormatSpecification http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/1.1/intermediate.html Actually, I'd like to retrieve the page number and vertical position of my object with a specific id (reference) to be able to perform PDF post-processing. Is DVI way to go? How can I get it in MkIV? Thanks, Jan

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[***SPAM***] Re: No full Unicode-Support in ConTeXt?
by "H. Özoguz" 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

> not at all, as you show way more input here as in the jpeg ... so first > make a minimal example I did gave a min-example, didn't I? The JPG was only to make clear, what I mean with "little signs". Is that clear now? Dont know how to say it better way (sorry my english) :), > also "another font" is not revealing either Of course it is not, yes, sorry. But sometimes I have problems with different fonts (e.g. the letters are not connected), and these problems do not occur in CorelDraw or some other programs. That is, what I meant. (Besides from that, it should be clear that I am a very big fan of ConTeXt and all the way I am talking about it to friends and collegues, so: no attacks at all :)). > the only issue i see is that this otf font has 2048 units and gets > scaled wrong (in luatex's backend probably) The problem is not the scaling (may be too, but not my problem here). Don't you get the following problem in this (your) code? \definefont[arabica][file:uthmantn1ver10.ttf*arabic at 45pt] \definefont[arabicb][file:arabtype.ttf*arabic at 45pt] \starttext \setupalign[r2l] \arabica شَدِيدٌۗ\blank\blank \arabicb شَدِيدٌۗ\par \stoptext Maybe its an issue of my context-version, so see the attachment. With the font "arabtype" everything is fine, with the font "uthmantnver10" the sign is missing. Huseyin

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No full Unicode-Support in ConTeXt?
by "H. Özoguz" 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

Hello there, I wonder why working with fonts is soo hard in ConText (much easier in Word or CorelDraw). See this following font (free, opensource): http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/UthmanTN1-Ver10… And try now this Context-Code: \definefont[arabic][file:UthmanTN1Ver10.ttf*arabic at 15pt] \starttext \arabic\setupalign[r2l] مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلْفُرْقَانَۗ إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِـَٔايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌۗ وَٱللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو ٱنتِقَامٍ \stoptext You see, this little signs above the letters are vanished in the PDF. But they are set in CoreDraw (for example). Why, what is the problem? Similar problems you can see with another font, no problem in CorelDraw, but problems in ConText. Hope for help. Thank you very much. Huseyin

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Re: [NTG-context] Converting normal font into bold
by "H. Özoguz" 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

> The extend feature stretches the glyphs to get narrow or wide font but it doesn’t embolden it. > > The best solution is to get a font with a real bold style, money shouldn’t be a problem because fonts are cheap nowadays. > > Wolfgang Thanks, I hoped the it could really embold ist (like I did it in CorelDraw). Of course, money is not the problem at all - I am using it commercially, so the company should by any arabic font I would suggest. But it is very hard to find an modern font, which is capable of typsetting Quran, with full supprt and all special symbols (wich are not a part of standard modern arabic) - and more hard to find such a find in this style (Uthmanic). Huseyin

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Re: [NTG-context] Converting normal font into bold
by "H. Özoguz" 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

> > > >> May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you > >> may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts - > >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts > > > > Thanks for your advice. > > Unfortunately I did not manish to work with this font by simplefonts. I use the following simple setup: > > > > > > \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt] > > \definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.1] > > \definefont[arabic][file:<fontname>*arabic,fakebold at 15pt] > > > \starttext > > \arabic\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ > > \stoptext > > > > How can I get these "fake bolds" with this setup? Or is it absolutely necessary to use Simplefont for these fake-bolds? > > The feature is unrelated to simplefonts. > > Wolfgang Thanks Wolfgang, but that does not seem to work with this font. See attachment, the font is wider, but not bold. ++++++++++++++++ \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt] \definefont[arabics][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt] \definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.2] \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic,fakebold at 15pt] \starttext \arabic\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ \blank\arabics\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ \stoptext ++++++++++++++++ Huseyin

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[***SPAM***] Re: No full Unicode-Support in ConTeXt?
by "H. Özoguz" 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

To be more concrete, I added an jpeg from CorelDraw, which shows, what I mean with these "little signs" above the letters. They are vanished in ConText, but are correctly set in CorelDraw with the very same font. Huseyin

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Re: [NTG-context] Converting normal font into bold
by "H. Özoguz" 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

> May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you > may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts - > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately I did not manish to work with this font by simplefonts. I use the following simple setup: \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt] \starttext \arabic\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ \stoptext How can I get these "fake bolds" with this setup? Or is it absolutely necessary to use Simplefont for these fake-bolds? Thanks. Huseyin

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[OT] − RobotoSlab Italics… or not
by Renaud Aubin 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

Hi folks, I'm working on a Roboto typescript and starting from the work done by Zen Lima back in last July, I would like to push things further. Since I work on some Android projects and use Google Keep mostly on a daily basis, I was surprised to not find italics for the RobotoSlab (either on the web or by extracting the assets of the Keep package). Why am I surprised: Keep do have serif title placeholders for the new note EditText and I see it everyday! $ mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=robotoslab robotoslab robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslabbold robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslablight robotoslablight RobotoSlab-Light.ttf robotoslabregular robotoslabregular RobotoSlab-Regular.ttf robotoslabthin robotoslabthin RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf OK, RobotoSlab fonts are accessible and I have a working typescript to use RobotoSlab with ConTeXt MkIV (I'll made the git repo public soon). At first, my thoughts are: nevermind the Slab italics but now, I'm curious since Inkscape, LibreOffice, … propose the italic and bolditalic features of the RobotoSlab (check out the attached font-manager screenshot). I've worked with different kind of fonts'family (more or less complete) and used and modified many typescripts in my ConTeXter's life but there I should be missing something obvious. Where are the RobotoSlab Italics??? My experience is that italic and bolditalic should correspond to files… First guess: no files so the RobotoSlab Italic and BoldItalic features are just faked ones composed by my GNU/Linux Debian system. No, I must be wrong here too… Any thoughts on "The Quest of the Hidden Italics of the RobotoSlab fonts!"? Best Regards, Renaud

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Converting normal font into bold
by "H. Özoguz" 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

Hello together, I have an arabic font, which is quite perfect, but only a little bit too thin, so that it seems to "vanish" into the white of the paper. Unfortunately this font does not come with an bold-variant. Now I tried to manipulate it with CorelDraw, just converted into curves and added an contour (verys small 0.13pt, while font was 11pt) - and it worked! This "aritificial bold-font" works very well, better then I hoped, no problems - although it is no hand-tundes bold, but only countour-adding. Now the question: I obviously cant set the entire book (more than 600 pages) with Corel-Draw, and want too use ConText, of course. So is there a way to produce this boldness out of this too thin font within ConText, too? Thank your very much. Best regards, Huseyin

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Simplefonts (new) fallback issue with Linux Libertine O
by Rik 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

Fallbacks (at least the range I tested) do not work with the roman face of Linux Libertine O in the new (core) simplefonts implementation. I first thought that this might be a Libertine issue, but further testing makes me suspect it may be a simplefonts issue. Or perhaps I have used the wrong syntax with the new implementation. Below are two MWEs, one based on the current standalone (current version: 2013.11.16 12:43), running on Windows 8.1 with the win64 bins, and the second based on an up-to-date TL13 (ConTeXt ver: 2013.05.28 00:36 MKIV) on the same system. Linux Libertine O is version When I run the standalone version, the fallback characters do not appear between the first angles, but do appear between the bf and it angles. They appear between angles in all cases with the TL13 MWE. I do not see the problem with my home-grown typescript for Libertine under either TL13 or the current standalone. I do not see the problem with Junicode, Gentium Book Basic, or Gentium Basic. I have not yet tried other fonts. Standalone MWE: \definefallbackfamily [libertine] [serif] [Gentium Plus] [range={0x02052-0x02058},force=yes] \definefontfamily [libertine] [serif] [Linux Libertine O] \setupbodyfont [libertine] \def\SDQP{⁓⁗}% Swung Dash Quad Prime U02053U02057 \starttext >\SDQP< >{\bf \SDQP}< >{\it \SDQP}< >{\bf{\it \SDQP}}< \stoptext TL13 MWE: \setupbodyfontenvironment [default][em=italic] \usemodule [simplefonts] \setmainfontfallback [Gentium Plus] [range={0x02052-0x02058},force=yes] \setmainfont [Linux Libertine O] \def\SDQP{⁓⁗}% Swung Dash Quad Prime U02053U02057 \starttext >\SDQP< >{\bf \SDQP}< >{\it \SDQP}< >{\bf{\it \SDQP}}< \stoptext -- Rik Kabel

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