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Re: [NTG-context] Index items
by Robert Blackstone 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

On 16 Apr 2015, at 15:38 , Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Index items > Message-ID: <552FBB35.9050707(a)wxs.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 4/15/2015 11:41 PM, Robert Blackstone wrote: >> >> On 15 Apr 2015, at 19:51 , Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau(a)cea.fr> wrote >>> Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/14/2015 1:48 PM, Robert Blackstone wrote: >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> The book I am typesetting contains a very extensive and detailed >>>>> index. The number of index items is probably around 1200, 16 pages. >>>>> A fair number of them occur in more than one chapter. >>>>> Like bibliography items, and for the sake of consistency, I have >>>>> stored them in some auxiliary files and it is a matter of copy and >>>>> paste to get them into the text in the proper place and way. (With >>>>> always a risk of accidentally deleting or adding a spurious brace >>>>> or bracket, with nasty results.) >>>>> >>>>> I wonder therefore whether it would be possible to handle them like >>>>> bibliography items, by means of a key, and leave their expansion to >>>>> ConTeXt. >>>>> >>>>> Would it be possible? >>>>> And if it is not (yet) possible, how could I perhaps tackle it? >>>> >>>> so you want to remap given index entries to new ones? at what moment? >>> >>> We index pretty heavily now in the new bibliography dataset subsystem, >>> that is one can create an index of authors, an index of keywords, an >>> index of titles, etc. as well as index the pages on which a reference >>> is cited. All of the information is there. >>> >>> So say that you want to create a database of anything: words, images, >>> phrases. You can put these into the database structure and then insert >>> them or any associated information wherever you want in your text, >>> later producing lists and indexes. >>> >>> Can you give an example of what type of information you extensively >>> index with detail? >>> >>> Alan >> Hi Alan, >> I realize that I have not yet reacted to Hans’ reply. So let me do that first (it was written but not yet sent). >> >> Hi Hans, >> Do I want to remap given index entries? Assuming I understand your reply correctly the answer is: Yes, in principle. I would want to be able to change them if there are errors, or if some publisher has different views about the presentation of titles of items that are in the index (titles of songs, for instance). And also when (parts of) the text has (have) to be reused for other purposes. Change them in one operation, that is, not by digging up all occurrences in the book of the item that has to be changed. >> >> In answer to Alan’s question: names, theoretical treatises and manuscripts, musical works, musical terms. Nearly all examples in the book have several features that have to be indexed: composer’s name, title of the published work (an opera for instance), title of the particular aria of which the example shows a fragment, and the special features that are shown in the example, parallel 7ths, for example. >> The not-so-minimal example below (best processed iwth mkiv) gives an impression, also of the optical clumsiness that makes the unprocessed text practically unreadable. That is another reason why I would like to be able to call an index entry by means of some sort of key, like in bibliographic items for footnotes. > > \startluacode > > document.indexentries = { > ["rule"] = [[Rule(s)]], > ["ruleimperfect"] = [[+ \quote{imperfect to perfect, from}]], > ["galilei"] = [[Galilei, Vincenzo]], > } > > function document.getindexentry(n) > context("\\index[%s]{%s}",n,document.indexentries[n] or ("<" .. > n .. ">")) > end > > \stopluacode > > \unexpanded\def\InEn[#1]% > {\ctxlua{document.getindexentry("#1")}} > > \starttext > That this rule > \InEn[rule] > \InEn[ruleimperfect] was not applied by everybody is for example shown > in {\em Fronimo}% > \InEn[galilei] > > etc etc Wow, this is super! Great improvement, also for the readability of the text. Thank you very much, Hans. Kind regards, Robert

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\setupinterlinespace not working in style
by Pablo Rodriguez 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Dear list, the following sample: \definetyping [tycode] [option=TEX, style={\tt\setupinterlinespace[line=5em]}] \starttext \section{\input zapf} \starttycode legibilidad, {\en legibility}, {\de Lesbarkeit} \stoptycode \setupinterlinespace[line=5em] \input zapf\par \stoptext shows simple (wrong) interline spacing with latest beta and it has right interline spacing with stable from TeX Live 2014. Is this a bug or am I missing something? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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Re: [NTG-context] Index items
by Robert Blackstone 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

On 15 Apr 2015, at 19:51 , Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau(a)cea.fr> wrote > Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > >> On 4/14/2015 1:48 PM, Robert Blackstone wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> The book I am typesetting contains a very extensive and detailed >>> index. The number of index items is probably around 1200, 16 pages. >>> A fair number of them occur in more than one chapter. >>> Like bibliography items, and for the sake of consistency, I have >>> stored them in some auxiliary files and it is a matter of copy and >>> paste to get them into the text in the proper place and way. (With >>> always a risk of accidentally deleting or adding a spurious brace >>> or bracket, with nasty results.) >>> >>> I wonder therefore whether it would be possible to handle them like >>> bibliography items, by means of a key, and leave their expansion to >>> ConTeXt. >>> >>> Would it be possible? >>> And if it is not (yet) possible, how could I perhaps tackle it? >> >> so you want to remap given index entries to new ones? at what moment? > > We index pretty heavily now in the new bibliography dataset subsystem, > that is one can create an index of authors, an index of keywords, an > index of titles, etc. as well as index the pages on which a reference > is cited. All of the information is there. > > So say that you want to create a database of anything: words, images, > phrases. You can put these into the database structure and then insert > them or any associated information wherever you want in your text, > later producing lists and indexes. > > Can you give an example of what type of information you extensively > index with detail? > > Alan Hi Alan, I realize that I have not yet reacted to Hans’ reply. So let me do that first (it was written but not yet sent). Hi Hans, Do I want to remap given index entries? Assuming I understand your reply correctly the answer is: Yes, in principle. I would want to be able to change them if there are errors, or if some publisher has different views about the presentation of titles of items that are in the index (titles of songs, for instance). And also when (parts of) the text has (have) to be reused for other purposes. Change them in one operation, that is, not by digging up all occurrences in the book of the item that has to be changed. In answer to Alan’s question: names, theoretical treatises and manuscripts, musical works, musical terms. Nearly all examples in the book have several features that have to be indexed: composer’s name, title of the published work (an opera for instance), title of the particular aria of which the example shows a fragment, and the special features that are shown in the example, parallel 7ths, for example. The not-so-minimal example below (best processed iwth mkiv) gives an impression, also of the optical clumsiness that makes the unprocessed text practically unreadable. That is another reason why I would like to be able to call an index entry by means of some sort of key, like in bibliographic items for footnotes. Kind regards, Robert Blackstone ==================================================================================== \starttext That this rule% \index[Rule]{Rule(s)}%% \index[RuleImperfect]{ + \quote{imperfect to perfect, from}} was not applied by everybody is for example shown in {\em Fronimo}% \index[Galilei]{Galilei, Vincenzo}% \index[GalileiFronimo]{ +{\em Fronimo}}% \index[Cadence]{cadence(s)}%% \index[CadenceP]{ + plagal}% \index[PlagalCad]{plagal cadence}% \index[Fronimo]{{\em Fronimo} (Galilei)} (1584), Vincenzo Galileo's treatise on lute playing and the intabulation% \index[Intabulation]{intabulation} of vocal music. \page Artusi\index[Artusi]{Artusi, Giovanni Maria} showed examples (Ex.~4.34) with parallel 4th% \index[Dissonance]{dissonance(s)}% \index[Dissonance4]{ + 4th(s)}% \index[Dissonance4Parall]{ + + parallel}s and 7th% \index[Dissonance]{dissonance(s)}% \index[Dissonance7]{ + 7th(s)}% \index[Dissonance7Paral]{ + + parallel}s in a contrapuntally oriented fashion. These parallels were to appear in works with basso continuo around 1610 but now between the bass and the solo part. They occur in vocal and instrumental music as well as in works for keyboard solo. Most examples have parallel 7th% \index[Dissonance]{dissonance(s)}% \index[Dissonance7]{ + 7th(s)}% \index[Dissonance7Paral]{ + + parallel}s but some examples of parallel 4th% \index[Dissonance]{dissonance(s)}% \index[Dissonance4]{ + 4th(s)}% \index[Dissonance4Parall]{ + + parallel}s and 2nd% \index[Dissonance]{dissonance(s)}% \index[Dissonance2Parall]{ + + parallel}s can be found as well. \setupregister[index][indicator=yes] \completeindex[compress=yes] \stoptext ===========================================================================

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beta / mp
by Hans Hagen 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Hi, I uploaded a beta with some fixes. Indeed as Alan mentioned some of the tex-mp interface has changed deep down (more efficient). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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next beta
by Hans Hagen 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Hi The next beta will have this (I needed it for a manual): \starttext \starttabulate[||CL{darkred}|CM{darkgreen}CT{white}|CR{darkblue}||] \NC first \NC left \NC middle \NC right \NC last \NC \NR \NC first \NC \color[white]{left} \NC middle \NC \color[white]{right} \NC last \NC \NR \NC first \NC left \NC middle \NC right \NC last \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stoptext i.e. we already had CL CM and CR, so CT is new .. should be wikified. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] Index items
by Robert Blackstone 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Hi, Same subject as in my previous post but a new question: On the ConTeXt wiki-page Command\index one finds: \index[...][...][…] […] text […] text […] text What is the first argument for? Could it somehow be used to provide a key? Another point, just for the sake of completeness: the example in my previous post yesterday, in ntg-context Digest, Vol 130, Issue 51, contains a small error, or rather an omission. Not damaging for the example. Corrected in the book. Best regards, Robert Blackstone

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Bug in latest beta: behavior of \text in StepCharts
by Otared Kavian 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Hi Hans, It seems that with the latest beta there is a bug in the way how the command \text is handled in step charts (plesae see the attached PDF). This bug is absent from mkii, and absent from previous versions of mkiv (up to a weak ago, I believe). This is a minimal example which shows that the font used in each cell of \text changes randomly (there are four instances of \text, and each time a different font is used…): %%%% begin random-text-size.tex \usemodule[steps] \starttext \input knuth.tex \placefigure[none][-]{}{ \startSTEPtable \cell {$(f\circ u)(x_{*} + o(1)) = $} \text{definition of $f\circ u$} \cell {$f\left(u\left(x_{*} + o(1)\right)\right) = $} \text {$u$ is continuous} \cell {$f\left(u(x_{*}) + o(1)\right) = $} \text {$f$ is continuous} \cell {$f\left(u(x_{*})\right) + o(1) =$} \text {definition of $f\circ u$} \cell {$(f\circ u)(x_{*}) + o(1)$.} \stopSTEPtable} \stoptext %%%% begin random-text-size.tex

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issues with line numbering
by Pablo Rodriguez 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

Hans, I’m afraid that I have another sample: \setupbodyfont[dejavu] \setuplinenumbering[style=\tfxx] \starttext \startlinenumbering \input zapf \stoplinenumbering \stoptext It compiles fine with beta from 2015.03.25 22:13. With beta from 2015.04.15 01:44, \setuplinenumbering avoids numbering the first line. If \setuplinenumbering is invoked, \setupbodyfont adds a 1 at the beginning of the first line. I’m afraid this may be a bug. Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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bug in xtables?
by Pablo Rodriguez 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

Dear list, I have the following sample: \starttext \startxtable \startxrow \startxcell a\stopxcell \startxcell b \stopxcell \stopxrow \startxrow \startxcell c\stopxcell \startxcell[width=.65\textwidth] \input zapf \stopxcell \stopxrow \stopxtable \stoptext Last cell is wrong with stable from TeX Live (2014.05.21 22:04), from 2015.03.25 22:13 and latest one from 2015.04.15 01:44. I’m afraid it may be a bug. Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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Index items
by Robert Blackstone 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

Dear all, The book I am typesetting contains a very extensive and detailed index. The number of index items is probably around 1200, 16 pages. A fair number of them occur in more than one chapter. Like bibliography items, and for the sake of consistency, I have stored them in some auxiliary files and it is a matter of copy and paste to get them into the text in the proper place and way. (With always a risk of accidentally deleting or adding a spurious brace or bracket, with nasty results.) I wonder therefore whether it would be possible to handle them like bibliography items, by means of a key, and leave their expansion to ConTeXt. Would it be possible? And if it is not (yet) possible, how could I perhaps tackle it? Thanks for any advice. Best regards, Robert Blackstone

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