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Re: [NTG-context] fundamental problem with headings
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Mar '05

11 Mar '05

Adam Lindsay <atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum said this at Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:11:41 +0100: > > >But if the heading should be set in general in a bold face what do I > >use instead of \rm so that italic parts of he heading will be typeset > >in bold-italic (and \sc parts to bold-smallcaps)? > >I guess something (next to serif, sans, mono, ...) like serifbold > >(\brm?) should be defined in my typescript? > > I'm a bit confused why you're not using \em in this situation, as it > adapts to both bold and roman contexts. If you dislike that it defaults > to slanted, then there's: > > \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic] > {\bf Hello \em World} Hello \em World > > > But if you want to follow the path of defining your own, adaptive > switches, then you could look at these goodies already defined in font-ini: > > %D \macros > %D {emphbf,emphit,emphsl,emphtf} > %D > %D The next emphasis alternatives are for \THANH. They adapt > %D their style as good as possible. > > \def\emphbf{\groupedcommand{\bf\def\emphit{\bi}\def\emphsl{\bs}}{}} > \def\emphit{\groupedcommand{\it\def\emphbf{\bi}\def\emphsl{\sl}}{}} > \def\emphsl{\groupedcommand{\sl\def\emphbf{\bs}\def\emphit{\it}}{}} > \def\emphtf{\groupedcommand{\tf\def\e > mphbf{\bf}\def\emphit{\it}\def\emphsl{\sl}} > {}} Right. I can use \em. But my workflow of using ConTeXt is typesetting already finished books (.doc-files). And so I would like to change the "text" as little as possible and instead use an suitable set of typescript and setup environment. That's why I thought I'd need a mysans (or \myrm) defined in the typescript to be used in Taco's full-blown bodyfont switch as described above: \def\SectionStyle{% \switchtobodyfont[myrm,20pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=30pt] } In fact, this is something I would like to have also for other purposes (for example to use a second set of oldstyle figures): defining my own *myserif* or *mysans* that could be used then in a typescriptfile the same way as sans, serif and mono are used there. But up to now I didn't manage it. Somebody did and would like to share his/her knowledge? Thank you, Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Mar '05

11 Mar '05

Hi Peter, Peter Münster <pmlists(a)free.fr> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > > > > for those, who don't want to update: > > > export PERL_HASH_SEED=0 > > > in $HOME/.profile works very nicely. > > > > is this reliable? > > It seems to me. At least on Linux: since a long time I've been used to get > always 8 runs with my procuct-files, and now I get only 1 or 2 runs. > > Cheers, Peter I just saw that you also fought with the "unknown reference []" while using the ffr encoding (nine months ago). I read and tried all the solutions that Hans and you found out up to now. But as soon as I set \enablemode[activecolon] \usemodule[tryout] in my local cont-sys.tex I am back to 8 runs again (either with Patrick's patch or with your line in .profile). Do you experience the same (or did I use the wrong .profile here on Mac)? This would mean that, when using ffr, we either have to ignore all this unknown reference outputs or fall back to 8 runs :o( Or does someone already has a solution covering both bugs? Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] fundamental problem with headings
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Mar '05

11 Mar '05

> Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Each kind of "emphasizing" - like \it \bf \cap \sc etc. - > > lets the respective phrase fall back to the documents > > bodyfont (see example below). > > > > How can I avoid this bug? > > not a bug, this is the expected behaviour of \definefont. > > > Do I use wrong code? > > Yes. \definefont defines a single font (hence it's name). > > What you actually need is a full-blown bodyfont switch: > > \def\SectionStyle{% > \switchtobodyfont[rm,20pt] > \setupinterlinespace[line=30pt] > } > > Greetings, Taco OK, so my example changes to \starttext \def\Textit{\groupedcommand\it\/} % \definefont[SectionFont][SerifBold at 20pt] % \def\SectionStyle{\SectionFont\setupinterlinespace[line=30pt]} \def\SectionStyle{% \switchtobodyfont[rm,20pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=30pt] } \setuphead[section] [alternative=paragraph,style=\SectionStyle] text \section{heading \Textit{italic} heading} text \stoptext But if the heading should be set in general in a bold face what do I use instead of \rm so that italic parts of he heading will be typeset in bold-italic (and \sc parts to bold-smallcaps)? I guess something (next to serif, sans, mono, ...) like serifbold (\brm?) should be defined in my typescript? Thank you, Steffen

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cutspace and backspace
by Paul Tremblay 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

What does cutspace actually do? I have the following layout: \definelayout[chapThree][ cutspace=20mm, % the space on the right hand side of the page leftmargin=35mm, % the space for margin notes backspace=50mm, % the space in the left hand side of the page rightmargin=25mm, % the space for right margin notes width=fit, ] I thought that cutspace would create a non-writeable area on the right hand side of a page. But the above layout uses the backspace value of 50mm and seems to ignore the cutspace value. It also seems that I was wrong about the fucntion of backspace. Backspace is actually the area from the edge of the page to the body text. So it equals the the margin area plus the edge of the page. Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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indenting list items.
by John R. Culleton 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

I have a multilevel set of itemized lists but I want to reduce the indentation because it takes up too much room. In other words instead of 1. foo a. fubar * bar I want spacing like 1. foo a. fubar * bar So I put this at the head of my document: \setupitemize[packed,serried,atmargin][indentnext=no,align=left] Since I don't know which parameter affects which dimension, I used them all. None of them seem to do what I am looking for. The space between items disappeared but that was the only change. Second question: The definition of \setupitemize seems to use three sets of square brackets but \startitemize seems to only use two. So, at the \startitemize level, which paramaters go in which set of braces? I have scanned looking for earlier posts but none seem to address these two problems. -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-updater i-Package updated
by Steffen Wolfrum 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

Uwe Koloska <koloska(a)voiceinterconnect.de> wrote: > Let's count the guys that use OSX with ConTeXt (and possibly > i-Packages): > > -- One -- Yes, a great work this ever up-to-date TeX distro! -- Two -- Steffen P.S. Although up to now I always installed Hans new versions directly in my local tree

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ConTeXt to HTML ?
by VnPenguin 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

Hi, I have some article written in ConTeXt. The principal output is of course PDF. But now I would like to make also a HTML output. Is there a simple way to do that from ConTeXt's source ? Thank you in advance, Q.

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[force, here] floats and its bad placement -- LONG mail
by Martin Kolařík 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Hi Hans (and all), I have difficulties with [force,here] floats. Even if such floats are something a bit degraded, they occured in publication text and they should be handled correctly. I am sorry I do not send a minimal example, but the minimal example from me would be XML + XML mapping + some included tex files and styles; and these together are really not minimal example... I hope I succeed with text description :-) The description: -- subject disallows page breaks after self and recommends page break before self (\goodbreak), -- the first page fills up with title, subject A + paragraphs, second subject B + [force]-float, -- which produces three pages: the *first* correctly ended (before subject B); the *second* with subject B only and the *third* with the [force]-float and the rest of the text. This is bad, as the [force]-float should be placed immediately after subject B onto the same (second) page. The tracing pages reports for this case, the ### lines are my comments: ... % t=378.42076 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=2111 p=0 c=2111# % t=389.22081 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1681 p=0 c=1681# % t=400.02086 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1314 p=0 c=1314# % t=410.8209 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1005 p=2000 c=3005 % t=421.62096 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=748 p=-500 c=248# subject : - Ozna?ení a význam svorek #### here the [force] float starts, it is a table, so ModulePins is used more times figures : dimensions of img/ModulePins.pdf loaded from figurefile itself figures : figureobject ModulePins.pdf is reused figures : figureobject ModulePins.pdf is reused floatblocks : order disturbed % t=897.74492 plus 56.20007 minus 16.20007 g=526.37599 b=* p=-500 c=* #### now the first page is too high -- and it will be break in c=248 (which is #### \goodbreak before subject interaction : pdftex code inserted [1.1{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Privat e/fonts/map/private.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/adobe.map}{d:/TeXLocal/P rivate/fonts/map/stormtype.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/microsoft.map}{d: /TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/suitcase.map}] %% goal height=526.37599, max depth=3.19995 % t=465.13591 plus 40.0 g=526.37599 b=357 p=-500 c=-143# #### the page 1 is flushed, 465 pts rests, this is subject B + [force]-float. #### But \OTRONEdocheckiffloatfits finds the float cannot be placed and, moreover, #### it prepares \goodbreak before it. floatblocks : order disturbed floatblocks : 3 saved % t=465.13591 plus 40.0 g=526.37599 b=357 p=-500 c=-143# % t=465.13591 plus 40.0 g=526.37599 b=357 p=0 c=357 subject : - Parametry modulu % t=505.02203 plus 44.05002 minus 4.05002 g=526.37599 b=11 p=0 c=11 % t=530.67215 plus 45.40002 minus 5.40002 g=526.37599 b=50 p=0 c=50 % t=545.52222 plus 46.75003 minus 6.75003 g=526.37599 b=* p=0 c=* [2.2] #### This goodbreak leads to break candidate with cost=-143 and #### HERE the second page is broken. And the float is saved and placed #### now onto the third page. floatblocks : 3 moved %% goal height=526.37599, max depth=3.19995 % t=0.0 g=359.6518 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# % t=30.78607 plus 41.35 minus 1.35 g=359.6518 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# ... By tweaking into \OTRONEdocheckiffloatfits, I found there is the line: % new per 31/5/2004, should be an option, only one column mode which creates \goodbreak. But I seems to me this \goodbreak should be generated only if there is a room for the float? It the room is not here -- which leads to float save -- the break causes unexpected page breaks. For second -- it seems to me the checking of room for float in described case counts the float size twice -- the float is counted inside \pagetotal of page material pending from the overfilled page 1 and for second its dimension is counted again with second call. For third -- the described behaviour saves float even if it can be correctly placed in currently filled page, so the float is pulled up from [force,here] positioning and it starts flow -- but this is not proper behaviour for such float. As a result, IMHO (which can be completly bad, I really do not known all the consequencies and mechanisms of ConTeXt) it should be corrected using following way: 1. \OTRONEdocheckiffloatfits (and maybe another OTR routines) should respect the float is [force,here]. For such floats the routine *always* should set \roomforfloattrue and *not to* generate \goodbreak, as [force,here] floats should be left to be placed by normal page builder TeX mechanism. 2. \goodbreak in % new per 31/5... block should be generated only if the float is placed -- if it is saved, the break corresponding to the float should not appear without the float. 3. maybe implement the option for \goodbreak :-) But there I cannot say more, because I do not know the primary motivation. I experimented with \OTRONEdocheckiffloatfits in desribed case -- after forcing the routine to set \roomforfloattrue and removing \goodbreak, the pages are break *exactly* as one (and me too :-) expects: % t=378.42076 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=2111 p=0 c=2111# % t=389.22081 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1681 p=0 c=1681# % t=400.02086 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1314 p=0 c=1314# % t=410.8209 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=1005 p=2000 c=3005 % t=421.62096 plus 53.50006 minus 13.50006 g=526.37599 b=748 p=-500 c=248# subject : - Ozna?ení a význam svorek figures : dimensions of img/ModulePins.pdf loaded from figurefile itself figures : figureobject ModulePins.pdf is reused figures : figureobject ModulePins.pdf is reused floatblocks : order disturbed floatblocks : 3 placed % t=618.06926 plus 58.90009 minus 18.90009 g=526.37599 b=* p=0 c=* interaction : pdftex code inserted #### the first page without float [1.1{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Privat e/fonts/map/private.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/adobe.map}{d:/TeXLocal/P rivate/fonts/map/stormtype.map}{d:/TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/microsoft.map}{d: /TeXLocal/Private/fonts/map/suitcase.map}] %% goal height=526.37599, max depth=3.19995 % t=185.46025 plus 42.70001 minus 2.70001 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# % t=189.51028 plus 44.05002 minus 4.05002 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=-500 c=100000# % t=189.51028 plus 44.05002 minus 4.05002 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# subject : - Parametry modulu % t=229.39641 plus 48.10004 minus 8.10004 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# % t=255.04652 plus 49.45004 minus 9.45004 g=526.37599 b=10000 p=0 c=100000# #### the second page including the float and the following text. That is all, have a nice day, Martin

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Hi Patrick, Patrick Gundlach <patrick(a)gundla.ch> wrote: > Hello again, > > > I have tried your small file (the one you have sent me) an a vanilla > > tetex 3.0 and an older texlive (I had to dig out my iBook -- anybody > > wants to buy a used iBook?) and both were two runs. > > Ah, not so fast, Patrick. I can reproduce your problem: > > $ ls -lR > .: > total 4 > drwxr-xr-x 4 pg pg 136 Mar 2 20:27 PARTS > -rw-r--r-- 1 pg pg 117 Mar 2 20:28 TEST.tex > > ./PARTS: > total 8 > -rw-r--r-- 1 pg pg 40 Mar 2 20:27 ONE.tex > -rw-r--r-- 1 pg pg 40 Mar 2 20:27 TWO.tex > > (so setup is TEST.tex in all capitals and ONE.tex and TWO.tex in > subdir, tetex 3.0). Now I run > > texexec --pdf test.tex > > (lowercase test.tex !) > > and I get: > > [...] > > utility file analysis : another run needed > TeX run : 8 > > > [...] > > > Note that the standard OS X filesystem is case preserving, but not > case sensitive when accessing a file. So accessing test.tex would be > happy with a file called TEST.tex. It is possible to create a pure > case sensitive HFS+ filesystem, but it isn't necessary to reproduce > the problem. (It would probably avoid it, though). > > > Patrick So I made a new setup: new files/folders and every names lowercase (folders, files, references). The first time I executed texexec --pdf test.tex it looked good: 2 runs! Then I executed texexec --pdf test.tex once more and now it was 8 runs again! Does this make sense? Steffen

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special character | how to encode?
by Paul Tremblay 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

How does one use | in ConTeXt? I've searched the manual and the web (and come up with nothing because context is a regular English word), but could not find anything. Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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