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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request
by Mojca Miklavec 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to > combinations like ... 1.) This is not exactly the same thing, but if we're talking about graphics: is it possible to include a figure (\externalfigure, perhaps withing \placefigure) in such a way that it fills exactly the remaining avalable space? factor=fit does almost exactly what I want, but it doesn't consider the space already taken by the preceeding text. If I wanted a figure to span over the whole presentation sheet, than factor=fit usually resulted in a caption on one page and a full-page figure on a new page. (I tuned the figure sizes manually, but that is not the proper way.) 2.) This is also something else, but what's the best way to write on pre-printed sheets of paper? Like honourable mentions and stuff like that. The lines are already given, so I would like the baseline (with name & surname for example) to be 0.5 mm above the line printed on paper, centered on that line (not necessary in the middle of the paper) I use \setupframed [align=middle, frame=off] \setlayerframed [page] [voffset=13.3cm, preset=leftbottom] [width=\paperwidth] {\MainFont #1} for that, but it doesn't take the baseline into consideration, so it has to be manually tuned for every line, every font & every font size (printed and compared if it looks OK). Yet another (probably doable, but more difficult to implement) request: there are for example five lines printed, with the distance of 13 mm and the width 10 cm (not necessary centered on the page). I would like to typeset a paragraph on them, so that the baseline of this text would be about 0.5 mm above the lines. I volunteer to write a MyWay if someone can help me with that. Thank you, Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request
by Steffen Wolfrum 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to > > combinations like > > > > \placefigure{top,left} > > > > or > > > > \placefigure{bottom,outer} > > > > > > The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a lot for > > typesetting books from "arts and humanities". > > > > There we often have to place a lot of (more then 100) figures at > > "fixed" positions like top-outer and bottom-inner, wrapped by text. > > > > I guess it's not a trivial feature to be implemented in TeX's > > paragraph processing, but I know it might be worth the effort: > > ConTeXt's way to deal with fonts and text is so superior that it > > should be also accessible for disciplines that besides text also rely > > on images - as the arts and humanities do. > > not trivial indeed, although it is more or less doable when you >accept some limitations, e.g. if you have only text and graphics, >use a grid, and have no other tricky stuff that can interfere >(display math or so) > > Hans ok, agreed! But figure labels are needed (do they interfere?) Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Position margin text block near previous paragraph
by Elena Fraboschi 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Thank you, Hans: I do like it when someone "beats me to the punch" :-) I learned something, and on top of it I didn't have to spend any time :-) (You got us all spoiled rottin, though) Best, elena P.S. And I do prefer the ConTeXt way of doing things rather than using ConTeXt to do LaTeX (except when absolutely unavoidable).

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music typesetting for ConTeXt
by Henning Hraban Ramm 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Hi there! Here is another suggestion for something that I'd like to do with ConTeXt but can't hack myself: There's a nice music typesetting program called GNU LilyPond (www.lilypond.org) in opposite to some years before it now engraves really beautiful music sheets. (MusiXTeX seems to be no alternative, it seems to be stuck with bitmap fonts and other uglities.) LilyPond has also a nice integration with LaTeX to typeset songbooks, educational material etc. Have a look at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/out- www/lilypond/LilyPond_002dbook.html I'd like to see (and use) a similar integration with ConTeXt - I guess it's similar to MetaPost integration: - support for inline code, i.e. \startLilyPond (LilyPond code) \stopLilyPond or \LilyPond{short code sample} - support for complete files (there's \lilypondfile in the LaTeX variant, like \import) For LaTeX the integration runs via a preprocessor (lilypond-book) that typesets the LilyPond parts and replaces them with graphics (as fas as I understand). I guess if one could use similar techniques like for the MetaPost integration, the LP integration in ConTeXt could be even tighter (and more comfortable) than for LaTeX. As far as I understand, LilyPond natively writes PostScript code and (usually) calls GhostScript to make a PDF. (Before it produced DVI, but they dropped it.) Does this sound like an interesting job for someone? I'd even offer a small bounty to get it done. Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net

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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request
by Steffen Wolfrum 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to > > combinations like > > > > \placefigure{top,left} > > > > or > > > > \placefigure{bottom,outer} > > > > > > The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a lot for > > typesetting books from "arts and humanities". > > > > There we often have to place a lot of (more then 100) figures at > > "fixed" positions like top-outer and bottom-inner, wrapped by text. > > > > I guess it's not a trivial feature to be implemented in TeX's > > paragraph processing, but I know it might be worth the effort: > > ConTeXt's way to deal with fonts and text is so superior that it > > should be also accessible for disciplines that besides text also rely > > on images - as the arts and humanities do. > > btw, do you know this trick? > > \starttext > > \hangsidefloat[2] > \placefigure[left][]{}{} \dorecurse{10}{\input zapf \par} > > \stoptext > yes I know. you once told me (as for the first time I asked for this feature two years ago...). true, it's a nice trick. and I used it in smaller publications. but it is not practicable with a lot of images (and this cases are the regular ones, unfortunately). typesetting with a lot of images wrapped by text is still a quite problematic task in ConTeXt/TeX . Steffen (P.S. actually my motivation to move to ConTeXt years ago was the hope that this image handling might be possible there. well, it wasn't ... )

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Feature request
by Steffen Wolfrum 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Hi, it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to combinations like \placefigure{top,left} or \placefigure{bottom,outer} The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a lot for typesetting books from "arts and humanities". There we often have to place a lot of (more then 100) figures at "fixed" positions like top-outer and bottom-inner, wrapped by text. I guess it's not a trivial feature to be implemented in TeX's paragraph processing, but I know it might be worth the effort: ConTeXt's way to deal with fonts and text is so superior that it should be also accessible for disciplines that besides text also rely on images - as the arts and humanities do. Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version
by Jessica Holle 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Under Windows is TextPad the best way to look after I think... (See attached file: jessi.zip) hope you can help greetings Jessica ----- Weitergeleitet von Jessica Holle/InfoTL am 26.07.2005 13:14 ----- Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind. An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> com> Kopie: Gesendet von: Thema: Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version ntg-context-boun ces(a)ntg.nl 26.07.2005 12:16 Bitte antworten an mailing list for ConTeXt users Jessica Holle wrote: > Hi, > > I've done everything like described on the page you tell, but there > is a problem too > > rzvlabwks:/usr/sbin # texexec --version > Can you show me the output of texexec --make --all please? Something went wrong at that stage, it seems. Taco _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context(a)ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

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Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version
by Jessica Holle 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Hi, I've done everything like described on the page you tell, but there is a problem too rzvlabwks:/usr/sbin # texexec --version TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texexec : TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 kpathsea: Running mktexfmt cont-en.fmt fmtutil: no info for format `cont-en'. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt context.fmt fmtutil: no info for format `context'. tex : unknown context : ver: 2005.07.21 cont-en : unknown total run time : 4 seconds rzvlabwks:/usr/sbin # cd /home/jessi/test/neu/ rzvlabwks:/home/jessi/test/neu # texexec bericht.tex TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 fixing engine variable : pdfetex executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : bericht output : standard interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) \write18 enabled. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) kpathsea: Running mktexfmt cont-en.fmt fmtutil: no info for format `cont-en'. Sorry, I can't find the format `cont-en.fmt'; will try `context.fmt'. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt context.fmt fmtutil: no info for format `context'. I can't find the format file `context.fmt'! return code : 256 run time : 2 seconds total run time : 3 seconds I think the file cont-en.* is missing. This I have erased before like it is written down in the manual you told. greetings Jessica ----- Weitergeleitet von Jessica Holle/InfoTL am 26.07.2005 11:14 ----- Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind. An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> com> Kopie: Gesendet von: Thema: Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version ntg-context-boun ces(a)ntg.nl 26.07.2005 10:00 Bitte antworten an mailing list for ConTeXt users Jessica Holle wrote: > Hi, > > I'm very new at the context section. > I've installed teTeX 3.0 from the sources and in the way it is > explained here: > > http://tug.org/teTeX/tetex-src/QuickInstall > > Everything works fine, I can compile my files. > > Now I want to update my version 2005-01-31 to 2005-07-21 > > texexec --version give this output: > > texexec --version > > TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 > > texexec : TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE > 1997-2005 > texutil : tex : pdfeTeX, > 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) > context : ver: 2005.07.21 > cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.7.26 mes: You now have a new distribution of context but are still using the old format files from teTeX. You have to follow these steps quite closely: http://contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation Esp. see "Fix texmf.cnf" and "Cleanup fmtutil" Good luck, Taco _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context(a)ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

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inline MP refresh problem
by Eckhart Guthöhrlein 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Hi all, when I change inline MP graphics, these are not recreated during the subsequent texexec run. I need to call texexec once again to have them refreshed. I have just installed a new box, but I think I have thought of the usual stuff in texmf.cnf and cont-sys.tex, and I am a little clueless at the moment. So thanks for any hints what might be the problem. My versions: pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) from tetex 3.0 ConTeXt ver: 2005.07.21 fmt: 2005.7.25 int: english mes: english Greetings, Eckhart

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Update to the newest ConTeXt version
by Jessica Holle 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

Hi, I'm very new at the context section. I've installed teTeX 3.0 from the sources and in the way it is explained here: http://tug.org/teTeX/tetex-src/QuickInstall Everything works fine, I can compile my files. Now I want to update my version 2005-01-31 to 2005-07-21 texexec --version give this output: texexec --version TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texexec : TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texutil : tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) context : ver: 2005.07.21 cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.7.26 mes: english total run time : 1 seconds Everything looks fine for me, but, when I want to compile my file, which works before the update to the new version, I get such a mistake: texexec bericht.tex TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 fixing texformat path : .: {!!/root/.texmf-config,!!/root/.texmf-var,/root/texmf,!!/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-config,!!/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-var,!!/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf,!!/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local,!!/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-dist}/web2c/ $engine,} fixing engine variable : pdfetex executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : bericht output : standard interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) \write18 enabled. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) entering extended mode (./bericht.tex ConTeXt ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.7.26 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex color : palette rollover is available system (E-TEX) : [line 1068] system (E-TEX) : [line 1123] ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex ! Undefined control sequence. l.14 \starttypescriptcollection [synonyms] ? ! Undefined control sequence. l.697 \stoptypescriptcollection and so on... But I don't know what my problem is. The cont-sys.tex I've already replaced by the original file which I have in my backup of teTeX3.0 I followed this intructions when I updating the version: http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html#install I hope somebody can help me. Thanks Greetings Jessica

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