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source file for the manuals
by Masoud Salehi 17 Dec '05

17 Dec '05

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OpenType fonts
by Idris Samawi Hamid 17 Dec '05

17 Dec '05

Hi all, OpenType fonts are all the rage today. Are there any critiqes of the format, or discussions of its limitations? How many typesetting applications can actually take full advantage of opentype fonts? What are the chances that OpenType (at least some of its advanced features) will go the way of MultipleMaster fonts? The answers to these questions have a bearing on my own advanced Classical Arabic script project. For example, the ovf+ocp mechanism of Aleph seems much richer than what otf offers, so should I bother with otf at all or just stick to enriched Type1 fonts (>256 glyphs, used by LatinModern)? I may be mistaken, but it seems that the Aleph utilities need updating to take full advantage of enriched Type1 fonts (not to mention otf fonts). Right now I am still building ovf's from a series of standard type1's. Here is one possible limitation of otf (please correct me if I'm wrong): While an otf can contain an alternate glyph of a given character, it cannot tell the typesetting application that, if there is the equivalent to underfull paragraph spacing, replace the default <glyph>.1 with <glyph>.2. This sort of thing is common in, e.g. old Arabic lead-press books and in handwritten books. TeX should be capable of this, though it remains to be seen whether this should be implemented at the engine level (a la pdfetex) or at the macro level. Best Idris -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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What about dynamic documentation?
by Jérôme Laurens 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hi all, Is is extremely useful for a newbie as I am to have access to the manuals electronically. You just open the pdf and search to obtain what you need. In general, you end up with a command that you have to copy from the pdf then paste to your source file. Another solution is to use the text editor completion feature, which is available only once you know the correct command name, at least the beginning... What I am missing is a button in the pdf itself that would automagically insert the proper code in my source. To be more concrete, here is what could be done (on Mac OS X at least). 0 - Define a data model. 1 - For a reasonnable set of commands, define dedicated GUIs panels. 2 - Write a dedicated browser As there is a huge amount of "reasonnable" TeX and ConTeXt commands, it is -not- reasonnable to fine tune a dedicated GUI for each one. But with some perl I think it would be possible to turn for example the Quick References Manuals into a set of xml files, each one dedicated to its own command. If these files are just HTML forms (modulo the proper style and automagic filter), we have the GUI for free using a web browser. The communication between the browser and the text editor could come from SUBMIT. At least a "copy/paste" phase would be enough. I already have a custom web browser that can insert some text directly in a text editor (iTeXMac) It is based on Mac OS X WebKit. Which means that I will incorporate this browser directly into iTM, but this not the question so far. All this makes points 1 and 2 above acceptable IMHO. The problems come from point 0. I think a good thing would be to create a subsection of the context garden, or another wiki, gathering all the sources. The seed would come from the actual documentation with automagic scripts and people would update at will. Then people would be able to work on a local version using a web sucker. We can imagine searching facilities as well BTW, Sometimes it is necessary to have some output to understand the real effect of a command. This should enter into consideration. How does it sound?

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Small capitals for the name in m-bib
by Renaud AUBIN 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hi all, Taco, surely you're the one able to answer... I want to have last names (and "von") of the authors in small capitals in my bibliography. Since, I'm not m-bib expert, how to manage the point properly ? Taco, I'm translating a bibli-num-fr.tex and bibl-apa-fr.tex, do you want them when it's over ? Maybe is there some other french people that can check it out and improve it ? Thanks,

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New bibliography beta
by David Wooten 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Greetings all, esp. Taco, I'm finally working with the new bib module, it works quite well. I've found one curiosity: I have a /defineparagraphs (semi?)-kludge in a modified bibl- file to take care of some wonky (but beautiful) layout demands. It worked perfectly in the last version: \defineparagraphs [bibpar] [n=3,before=\vskip -1.75\baselineskip,after=\vskip -1.25 \baselineskip,distance=.2em,align={hz,hanging}] \setupparagraphs [bibpar] [1] [width=1.5em] \setupparagraphs [bibpar] [2] [width=3.3em] What appears to be happening is that the "after" command no longer has any effect---regardless of its content. The "before" command works as expected. Thanks again for your time, David

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\starttyping
by Wolfgang Zillig 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hello, I wan't to typset some programming code \starttyping code \stoptyping works perfect. But is there a way to use directly the input of a file? When I use \starttyping \input file.m \stoptyping I get the line \input file.m displayed. I think there is an easy way to get this problem solved but it will not get into my head. Many thanks Wolfgang

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Context and Reftex
by David Arnold 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

All, I assume that reftex does not work with context? Correct? Is there a management system for references in Context that is similar to Reftex? David

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\totalnumberofpages and \setuparranging [2UP]
by John Magolske 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

Hi all, I'm having trouble getting \totalnumberofpages to display while using \setuparranging [2UP]. What I'd like to do is print a letter, two columns to a page, then cut the page in two so the letter is in long columns with fractional page numbering at the bottom of each column, 1/4, 2/4, 3/4, 4/4. But what's happening is 1/1, 2/2, 3/3, 4/4. \definepapersize[4.25x11][width=4.25in,height=11in] \setuppapersize [4.25x11][letter] \setuplayout[backspace=.75in, width=2.75in, topspace=.75in, top=0in, header=0in, footer=.5in, height=9.75in] \setuppagenumbering[location={footer,right},right={~/~}{\lastpage}] \setuparranging [2UP] Removing \setuparranging [2UP] allows \totalnumberofpages to work fine, and upon replacing it, the first run works. But subsequent runs revert back to 1/1, 2/2, etc. This is using the texexec --pdf command. I read through the thread "\totalnumberofpages & texexec --pages=1:2", but being new to ConTeXt, I can't quite make out if that's relevant. Any suggestions much appreciated. - John

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The speed of development?
by leon 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

Hi guys, I'm starting to use conTeXt. And thanks for all those people encourage me in my last email. I read in various places that the pace of development is fast. I don't get a clue of what that means. As far as I know LaTeX hasn't been updated for over 3 years. So how fast is conTeXt being developed? The conTeXt manual dated 2001 since pretty old to me. Am I right? Cheers -- .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. . * . . /.\ Merry Christmas . . /..'\ . . /'.'\ -- Leon . . /.''.'\ . . /.'.'.\ . . /'.''.'.\ . . ^^^[_]^^^ . .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.

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Trivial \cite & m-bib related question
by Renaud AUBIN 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

Hi all, I've a doc structured as followed : env_phd.tex biblio.bib project_phd.tex --> prd_phd.tex --> c_intro.tex (frontmatter) --> c_chap1.tex (bodymatter) I have read the previous thread [NTG-context] bibmodule + project, the result is : - in each components : \usepublications[prd_phd] - in prd_phd.tex (before \starttext) \setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author] \setuppublications[alternative=num-fr] \usepublications[prd_phd] My biblio.bib contains : @InProceedings{reno, author = {{Aubin}, Renaud}, title = {Titre test}, booktitle = {book title test}, pages = {1--100}, year = 2005 } I have compiled my product with : texexec --once prd_phd bibtex prd_phd texexec prd_phd texexec prd_phd texexec prd_phd I have a \cite[reno] in c_intro.tex, the prd_phd.bbl is ok and \completepublications works well I obtain [??] as the result of \cite and the log gives me : references : unknown reference [][reno] though my prd_phd.bbl = \setuppublicationlist[samplesize={{Aub}05},totalnumber=1] \startpublication[k=reno,t=inproceedings, a={{{Aubin}}},y=2005, n=1,s={Aub}05] \author[]{Renaud}[R.]{}{{Aubin}} \pubyear{2005} \arttitle{Titre test} \title{book title test} \pages{1--100} \stoppublication and the log publications : loading database from prd_phd.bbl I don't understand what happened... What I'm doing wrong ? I have try some options for \cite but it's not better and my understanding of m-bib need to be improved since i've recently switched from LaTeX to ConTeXt.

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