January 2021 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

what’s up with \setupdelimitedtext[method=font]?
by Henning Hraban Ramm 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Hi again, the following example used to work with LMTX (but not MkIV) from September. Now I get the "narrower" indentation only if I comment the first line (in both versions) – apparently there’s a setup conflict, and I don’t know any more why I needed this setup. Could you explain what it does (did, should do)? Hraban \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] % hanging quotation marks %\setupalign[hanging] \setupnarrower[left=2em,right=1.5em] \definenarrower[Zitat] \setupnarrower[Zitat] [left=2em, right=1.5em, before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquotation, % fake hanging quotation mark after=\stopquotation] \usemodule[visual] \starttext \fakewords{50}{50} \startquotation quotation \fakewords{100}{100} \stopquotation\footnote{about quotation} \startZitat Zitat \fakewords{100}{100} \stopZitat\footnote{about Zitat} \stoptext

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LMTX problem with \input
by Henning Hraban Ramm 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Another LMTX/MkIV difference: In a component, I include another file with \input, that starts with \page in the first line. With LMTX I get an error: """ I can't figure out why you would want to use a tab mark here. If some right brace up above has ended a previous alignment prematurely, you're probably due for more error messages. """ It works if I insert a blank line, and it works in MkIV. Sorry, I can’t reproduce this apparent edge case in a MWE yet. Hraban

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LMTX/MkIV difference in date handling
by Henning Hraban Ramm 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

ConTeXt ver: 2021.01.11 17:27 LMTX fmt: 2021.1.11 The following works in MkIV, but not in LMTX: \def\Jahr{\currentdate[year]} \settaggedmetadata[ rights={© \Jahr{} Me} ] \starttext \strut \stoptext The error message is: 1 \def\Jahr{\currentdate[year]} 2 3 \settaggedmetadata[ 4 >> rights={© \Jahr{} Me} 5 ] 6 7 \starttext 8 \strut 9 \stoptext 10 You've closed more groups than you opened. Such booboos are generally harmless, so keep going. Hraban

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Extra space in align if tagging is enabled
by Mikael Sundqvist 13 Jan '21

13 Jan '21

Hi, There is an extra vertical space after displayed formulas with align if pdftagging is enabled. If I remove the last \NR it goes away (but I have got the idea that one should have that final \NR there?) /Mikael \setuptagging[state=start] \starttext \samplefile{knuth} \startformula \startalign \NC A \NC = B\NR \stopalign \stopformula \samplefile{knuth} \startformula \startalign \NC A \NC = B \stopalign \stopformula \samplefile{knuth} \stoptext

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extra width in cropbox and trimbox
by Pablo Rodriguez 12 Jan '21

12 Jan '21

Dear list, I have already reported this before (https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2020/099636.html) I have the following sample: \setupinteractionscreen [width=fit] \starttext \null \stoptext Mediabox is fine: [ 0 0 595.2756 841.8898 ] But cropbox and trimbox contain extra width: [ 0 0 741.4331 841.8898 ] This is caused by \setupinteractionscreen[width=fit]. Generating booklets from documents with the values above leads to wrong output. Could anyone explain me what is wrong here? Sorry, but I don’t know what I may be missing. Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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xtable as list item
by Pablo Rodriguez 12 Jan '21

12 Jan '21

Dear list, I have the following sample: \starttext \startitemize[n][margin=yes] \item a \item \startembeddedxtable[option={stretch, width}] \dorecurse{25}{\startxrow \startxcell \Characters{\recurselevel}\stopxcell \startxcell \characters{\recurselevel}\stopxcell \stopxrow} \stopembeddedxtable \stopitemize \stoptext I want to add the xtable as a list item. I’m experiencing two issues: 1. Item number is placed at the bottom of the xtable. 2. There is an added horizontal space, so that the xtable has a minimal indentation that the first item doesn’t have. (In my real document, this horizontal space is huge.) Is there any way to suppress both issues? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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lmtx upload
by Hans Hagen 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

Hi, I uploaded a new lmtx. Nothing spectacular as I'm still playign with compact font support (as explained in previous mails). Most seem to work now. New magic: \startTEXpage[offset=10pt] \vl\glyph `M\vl\quad \vl\glyph raise 3pt `M\vl\quad \vl\glyph left 3pt `M\vl\quad \vl\glyph right 2pt`M\vl\quad \vl\glyph raise -4pt right 4pt`M\vl\quad \vl\glyph left -1pt right -1pt`M\vl \stopTEXpage This is part of some experiments with manipulating glyph dimensions instead of font kerns. These extensions will stay (who knows when it comes un handy) but we will probably stick to font kerns as default. \startTEXpage[offset=10pt] \showfontkerns \showglyphs \strut average\par \vskip-2ex \enabledirectives[fonts.injections.method=advance] {\red \strut average}\par \stopTEXpage Both methods have their pros and cons. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV
by Ivan Pešić 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

One nice tool that I use for translation is https://po4a.org/index.php.en I used it to translate (and maintain) complete Vim documentation. It could be adapted to work with Context (there is already a Latex module) Regards, Ivan сре, 6. јан 2021. 12:56 <ntg-context-request(a)ntg.nl> је написао/ла: > Send ntg-context mailing list submissions to > ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ntg-context-request(a)ntg.nl > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ntg-context-owner(a)ntg.nl > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ntg-context digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV > (Bruce Horrocks) > 2. Re: A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV > (Joaquín Ataz López) > 3. Re: A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV > (Augusto Stoffel) > 4. Re: Randomize order of blocks (Otared Kavian) > 5. Re: Randomize order of blocks (Otared Kavian) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bruce Horrocks <ntg(a)scorecrow.com> > To: "ntg-context(a)ntg.nl" <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 00:36:23 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV > > > > On 5 Jan 2021, at 20:31, Garulfo <garulfo(a)azules.eu> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I saw that Mojca created a directory > > https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context > > > > Joaquín, if you agree, and if > > - you provide me with the spanish + english source codes > > - Mojca provide you and me with github write access (garulfogb account) > > > > i could : > > 1/ push the current code > > 2/ start to write a github wiki page (+ link on contextgarden) to > describe : > > - for you : how to update from your own computer (the official source) > > - for any user : how to use git to get the source + link to this list > for discussion. > > > > Does anybody has a guide about "how to set up a documentation > translation project with git ?". > > One requirement will probably to define how propositions are officially > validated. Does it requires Joaquín to learn how to use git ? Can we just > work by sending files (or patches) to Joaquín who will update with a single > git command ? > > I think we need to be really clear about what we want to achieve here. > > 1) Is it just making the source plus the PDF available for download? If so > then there are plenty of simpler ways to do that than using Git. > > 2) If it is to gather feedback on things like typos then we don't need > Git. For example I spotted a missing ']' in the English translation so all > I need is a way to submit a 'bug report' not access to the source. > > 3) So what is left? To provide a way for translators to be notified of > changes to the original? To provide a collaboration mechanism for > significant changes to the document? > > I don't see that Git adds much in the way of value unless Joaquín and the > translators are already very familiar with it -- because the learning curve > is very steep and recovering from mistakes (made to the repository itself > rather than to the document content) can sometimes be extremely difficult. > > -- > Bruce Horrocks > Hampshire, UK > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Joaquín Ataz López" <jal(a)um.es> > To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 06:26:34 +0100 > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV > I don't really know anything about git, so I can't give my opinion about > what is or isn't convenient to do. Certainly to report bugs in my text I > don't think it takes anything more than an e-mail to send them to me. > Having a repository can be useful to keep a version that is always up to > date; but that, on the other hand, would force me to be continually > modifying the text, which in principle is not my intention. I do not > exclude that there will be other versions in the future, but for the > moment this is not part of my plans. And if there were other versions, > it would be more to add some chapter; mainly I think that the most > important material that is missing is the one related to XML, Lua and > Metapost, that is: the three additional languages in which a ConTeXt > document can be written. But I am far from being able to write anything > about any of those three aspects. Some member of the list has offered to > help me with it, but not immediately (we all have a lot of work). > > The original idea, I think, was to provide a platform that would allow > different collaborators to translate the text into different languages. > Whether or not git is the best solution for that purpose, I really don't > know. > > What I would appreciate is that guide on "how to set up a documentation > translation project with git? that Garulfo proposes. > > El 5/1/21 a las 21:31, Garulfo escribió: > > Hi all, > > > > I saw that Mojca created a directory > > https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context > > > > Joaquín, if you agree, and if > > - you provide me with the spanish + english source codes > > - Mojca provide you and me with github write access (garulfogb account) > > > > i could : > > 1/ push the current code > > 2/ start to write a github wiki page (+ link on contextgarden) to > > describe : > > - for you : how to update from your own computer (the official source) > > - for any user : how to use git to get the source + link to this list > > for discussion. > > > > Does anybody has a guide about "how to set up a documentation > > translation project with git ?". > > One requirement will probably to define how propositions are > > officially validated. Does it requires Joaquín to learn how to use git > > ? Can we just work by sending files (or patches) to Joaquín who will > > update with a single git command ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 03/01/2021 à 19:08, Hans Hagen a écrit : > >> On 1/3/2021 5:42 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 15:37, Garulfo wrote: > >>>> > >>>> In oct 2020, a message proposed to create a GitHub/GitLab > >>>> repository (or > >>>> even organization) for this so that anybody can help translating it > >>>> into > >>>> other languages: > >>>> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2020/099789.html > >>> > >>> If you want to see it under > >>> https://github.com/contextgarden/ > >>> just propose the repository name and list the usernames for those who > >>> should initially have access. > >> also because that would fit well into the plans for a bunch of > >> context related repositories > >> > >> Hans > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > >> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > >> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > >> > >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > >> entry to the Wiki! > >> > >> maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / > >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net > >> > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > >> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > > to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / > > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > -- > Joaquín Ataz López > Derecho Civil > Universidad de Murcia > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel(a)gmail.com> > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:17:41 +0100 > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV > Hi Joaquín, > > Here is a small suggestion, which would have a few different uses. The > following link, which I copied from the index, should take you to the > definition of \vbox: > > > https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX_eng.pdf#%5B%7B%22num%22%3A117%2C%22gen… > > This works at least in some browsers, or by passing the stuff after # > as a suitable command-line argument to some PDF viewers. > > So, it would be really nice to make those named destinations stable and > readable, for instance > > https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX_eng.pdf#vbox > > I suspect this is either a switch you turn on in ConTeXt, or something > that would still need to be implemented as a feature. > > Best, > Augusto > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 12:00 AM Henning Hraban Ramm <texml(a)fiee.net> > wrote: > > > > > Am 03.01.2021 um 22:24 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen(a)xs4all.nl>: > > > > > > On 1/3/2021 10:02 PM, BPJ wrote: > > >> I understand that and it is all well and good. I am wondering if > > there already is *another* text which presupposes basic knowledge of > > TeX and general knowledge of LaTeX, perhaps in a by-topic style. > > > I think this relates to the question how someone comes to tex and > > then to context. Are tex macro packages used alongside and such? Are > > there 'from word/office to tex' or reverse manuals? What could be a > > motivation to write one. > > > > I guess most ConTeXt users migrated from LaTeX at some point, so > > that guide would really make sense. But I can’t write it either, > > even if I’m also working with LaTeX (but just as a user of one > > special class). > > > > If I run into a problem in LaTeX that I know to solve in ConTeXt, > > the approach is never right. > > > > I think the similarities of LaTeX and ConTeXt are mostly misleading, > > you’re better off trying to forget everything and start anew. > > > > In LaTeX most problems are solved with “use this or that > > package”, without the need to understand the commands and settings > > involved, while in ConTeXt most problems are solved with > > \setupsomething[somekey=somevalue]. > > > > Of course it helps to understand basic TeX stuff – but you’re > > not supposed to use (plain) TeX commands in LaTeX, while it is or was > > much more usual in ConTeXt. > > > > Writing my book I have users of text processors (Word/LibreOffice) > > and layout applications (InDesign etc.) in mind, even if I assume > > that most readers (if I’ll ever publish it...) will come from LaTeX. > > > > > > > > > So, one way out could be to have some collection of tips / > > suggestions and turn that into a kind of manual. Something to do by > > those who make some transition or use alongside. The wiki is the > > place start with that. > > > > > > So .. up to users. > > > > Yes, and that means: up to users migrating from LaTeX and > > documenting their struggles. > > > > Hraban > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > > entry to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / > > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Otared Kavian <otared(a)gmail.com> > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:41:13 +0100 > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Randomize order of blocks > Hi Jairo, > > One can indeed make quizzes and exams with randomized order of problems, > randomized values and even randomized names of functions and variables. > I have some examples which I have been using for several years (they are > useful especially in these days of giving exams online…): I can send them > to you as they are, or if you tell me what kind of problems you want, then > I can adapt my examples before sending them to you. > > Best regards: Otared > > > On 5 Jan 2021, at 17:18, Jairo A. del Rio <jairoadelrio6(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi, list. > > > > Some time ago I realized ConTeXt has "blocks" which allow one to make > quizzes, exams and related with ease. However, I want to know if there's an > option to randomize their order when printed. Thank you in advance. > > > > Jairo > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Otared Kavian <otared(a)gmail.com> > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:55:54 +0100 > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Randomize order of blocks > Following up my previous message, here is an example: > > %% begin shuffled list of exercises > \setuprandomize[2021] > > \startluacode > function shuffle(tableau) > local maxsize, t, tt > maxsize = #tableau > tt = {} > t = {} > for i = 1, maxsize do > t[i] = {} > t[i]["columnOne"] = tableau[i] > t[i]["columnTwo"] = math.random(1,100*maxsize) > end > table.sort(t, function(a,b) return a.columnTwo < > b.columnTwo end) > for i = 1, maxsize do > tt[i] = t[i]["columnOne"] > end > return tt > end > \stopluacode > > % We define three arrays > % with the names, the functions and their derivatives > % One could also add a ListOfVariables... > > \startluacode > > ListOfNames = { > "f", > "g", > "h", > "u", > "v", > "F", > "G", > "H", > } > > ListOfFunctions = { > "\\cos(x^2)", > "x\\sin(x)", > "\\tan(x)", > "x^3 - 3x^2 + 1", > "\\frac{1}{1 + x^2}", > "\\sin(\\log(x))", > } > > ListOfDerivatives = { > "-2x\\sin(x^2)", > "x\\cos(x) + \\sin(x)", > "1 + \\tan(x)^2", > "3x^2 - 6x", > "\\frac{-2x}{(1 + x^2)^2}", > "\\frac{\\cos(\\log(x))}{x}", > } > > \stopluacode > > \starttext > > % We define a buffer and a shuffled list of integers > > \startbuffer[test-derivatives] > \startluacode > ShuffledList = shuffle({1,2,3,4,5,6}) > \stopluacode > > Let $\cldcontext{ListOfNames[ShuffledList[\recurselevel]]}(x) := > \cldcontext{ListOfFunctions[ShuffledList[\recurselevel]]}$. Prove that > \startformula > \cldcontext{ListOfNames[ShuffledList[\recurselevel]]}'(x) = > \cldcontext{ListOfDerivatives[ShuffledList[\recurselevel]]} > \stopformula > \stopbuffer > > \dorecurse{6}{\blank[medium]{\bf Exercise #1.} > \getbuffer[test-derivatives] > } > > \stoptext > > %% end shuffled list of exercises > > > > On 6 Jan 2021, at 09:41, Otared Kavian <otared(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Jairo, > > > > One can indeed make quizzes and exams with randomized order of problems, > randomized values and even randomized names of functions and variables. > > I have some examples which I have been using for several years (they are > useful especially in these days of giving exams online…): I can send them > to you as they are, or if you tell me what kind of problems you want, then > I can adapt my examples before sending them to you. > > > > Best regards: Otared > > > >> On 5 Jan 2021, at 17:18, Jairo A. del Rio <jairoadelrio6(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, list. > >> > >> Some time ago I realized ConTeXt has "blocks" which allow one to make > quizzes, exams and related with ease. However, I want to know if there's an > option to randomize their order when printed. Thank you in advance. > >> > >> Jairo > >> > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > to the Wiki! > >> > >> maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net > >> > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ >

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Org-Mode for ConTeXt
by Jan U. Hasecke 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

Dear all, Emacs and Org-Mode is central to my writing workflow as I use org-mode for organizing my Zettelkasten.[1] Now I am looking for a way to extend the workflow an include ConTeXt. Is anybody aware of a ConTeXt export tool for Org-Mode? Ciao! juh [1] https://www.hasecke.eu/post/luhmanns-zettelkasten-mit-org-brain/ -- Soziale Plastik. Die Kunst der Allmende Essay zum 30. Todestag von Joseph Beuys http://www.amazon.de/dp/1523458763/ Taschenbuch, 130 Seiten, EUR 9,90 -- http://hasecke.com * Business Communication * Werbung für den Mittelstand Schubertstr. 4 * 42719 Solingen * Telefon ++49-212-2331483 https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-fingerprint/F6911D6BDD74ABB8FE4586E03B3D… Umsatzsteuer-Identifikationsnummer: DE196439205 Datenschutzerklärung: https://www.hasecke.com/datenschutz/

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Math blackboard (bug?)
by Johann Birnick 09 Jan '21

09 Jan '21

To write blackboard math, the syntax was $\blackboard{N}$ , but now this also makes the rest of the text blackboard. So one has to use ${\blackboard N}$ . Is this indented? (the old way is a bit easier to use) Secondly, I want to address the blackboard font. Try out \starttext ${\blackboard NR}$ \stoptext This looks different then in the past. It doesn't have serifs. It looks like the wrong font, like sans. Is this a bug? To me it looks awful, honestly. It doesn't fit the rest of the math font at all. Best regards Johann

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