July 2013 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

About Hyphenation
by Andres Conrado Montoya 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

Hi List, I am very grateful with you all. Thanks for all the teaching. Sorry if the message is too long. I have read in several places that the commands \doublehyphendemerits and \finalhyphendemerits are not a "real" way of dealing with the design issue of too many hyphens in a row and/or avoiding a hyphen at the end of a page. I have found that \doublehyphendemerits just avoids TWO hyphens in a row, but not three or four, etc., and \finalhyphendemerits just doesn't work. I have read the code, the wiki, the mail list, and the manuals, but with no success yet. I'm working with grid, and using a widow/orphan control macro found here on this list: ******************************************** \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch,lesshyphenation,hz,hanging] \startsetups[grid][correcto] \setups[*reset] \setpenalties\widowpenalties{1}{10000} \setpenalties\clubpenalties{1}{10000} \setpenalties\brokenpenalties{1}{20000} \stopsetups \doublehyphendemerits=20000 \finalhyphendemerits=20000 \setuplayout [backspace=10.3ex, width=62ex, topspace=10.3ex, height=124ex, header=1em, headerdistance=1em, footer=1em, footerdistance=2em, margindistance=1em, grid=yes, setups=correcto] ******************************************** As a book designer, one of my dreams is migrate all my work to ConTeXt, and stop using adobe products; I think ConTeXt is a very good design tool. However, this obstacle is frustrating that dream in part. I know that you may say "this hyphenation issue is a matter of taste! is not important!" but all the publishers I have worked with in the last 15 years have emphasized that rule over and over again. I'm Colombian, so, I design books mainly in spanish, and in spanish editions is a very common rule to avoid more than 2 hyphens in a row. I understand that there are similar rules in french, and I have read some discussions about it, but mostly the thread finishes with something similar to "use ragged right align and forget hyphens" (see http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg68899.html) So, questions are: 1. Is there any definitive way of avoiding 2 or more hyphens on a row AND hyphens at the end of a page? 2. If is not, and it seems that is not (see http://latex-community.org/know-how/latex/55-latex-general/475-e-tex#line-b…) how do you manage? Do you just let hyphens be? Do you avoid hyphens using \unhyphenated or \mbox by hand? No problem, if it's the standard solution, but I think there should be some mechanism to avoid (n+) hyphens on a row, something like \maxadjhyphens[2]. Is this impossible / too difficult? If it is, I'm sorry for bothering you. I just really want to work with ConTeXt. I have done a couple books for myself, to learn, but I want to take this into production, and this single issue, so insignificant you may see it, is very important for me, and I'm sure that other designers would find it very important too. Thank you all for your time. Andrés Conrado Montoya

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INstalling the context version of TeX distro.
by john Culleton 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

Normally I just use TeXlive as my TeX distro for Context as well as everything else. However I thought I would play with the Context version for educational purposes. It is perhaps more up to date than TeXlive 2013. I downloaded the zip file and unzipped it. Now what? Also I copied the zip file to my Windows partition (currently XP but I can up it to Win 7 if desirable for Context. I have both XP and Win 7 install disks.) Again I need install directions. If there is an up-to-date guide to this process just give me its name. Thanks in advance. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus" available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html

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vertical bar spacing in Antykwa-Poltawskiego
by Alan Bowen 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

I am using Antykwa-Poltawskiego to set a French text that includes ancient Greek. In the Greek text, there is a vertical bar (to mark the end of a column). The custom is to set the spacing about the bar so that (a) when the bar is inside a word, the bar appears as a normal character (b) when the bar is between words, the bar has an emspace on either side. The problem is that Antykwa-Poltawskiego defines the vertical bar with spaces on either side. Is there a way to adjust this so that the vertical bar appears as it should in Greek text—and to do this without clobbering the French punctuation or getting weird effects when the bar is at the end of a line? For instance, is there a way to combine rules for character spacing so that the second overrules the first only when they are in conflict? Alan

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mixing English and Hebrew
by Pablo Rodríguez 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Dear list, I was asked how to mix l2r and r2l scripts on the same document. (Just in case, I have no idea what the Hebrew text below means.) I have this sample: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][lang=heb,script=hebr] \setmainfontfallback[LinuxLibertineO][range=hebrew,force=yes,features=hebrew] \setmainfont[TeX Gyre Pagella] \starttext This is an English text.\blank This is a Hebrew passage: בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽ... \stoptext I could use \setupalign[r2l], but English would be typeset also right to left. I have two questions: Since Hebrew (both the language and the script) are written from right to left, shouldn’t it be r2l alignment turned on by default when the script or language were selected in the OpenType features? How can I enable r2l alignment only for Hebrew in the sample above? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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[***SPAM***] Joining two paragraphs
by "H. Özoguz" 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Hello, how to join to paragraphs /lines, such that they are not broken on to pages? \starttext \dorecurse{30}{First line.\\ Second line.\\} \stoptext You see that the last "First line" on the first page is alone, the "Second line" comes on the next page, of course correct in this example. I could join them now with "\testpage[2]", but is there another way, without counting lines? And without invisible frames? Just like an automatic "testpage", which knows how many lines it must have. Thanks Huseyin

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Numbering enumerations in mkiv
by Thomas Friedrich 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Hello, the mechanism for how to share the numbering of enumerations seems to have changed from mkii to mkiv. I used the following code to typeset theorems and lemmata in mkii. The typeset is very different when complied with mkiv: In the following code, for example, the lemma is missing its number, and there is an additional line break after each theorem title. ~~~ snip ~~~ \setupcolors[state=start] \setupframedtexts [width=\makeupwidth, frame=off, bottomframe=on, topframe=on, background=screen, backgroundscreen=.95] \setupenumerations [title=yes, style=normal, list=all, before={\blank[big]}, after={\blank[big]}, location=serried, width=broad, distance=0.5em, headstyle=bold, titlestyle=bold, way=bychapter, conversion=numbers, before=\startframedtext, after=\stopframedtext] \defineenumeration [theorem] [text=Theorem, listtext={Theorem }] \defineenumeration [lemma] [text=Lemma, listtext={Lemma }, number=theorem] \starttext \theorem Something $a=bc$. \theorem Something else. \lemma And something. \theorem And something else. \stoptext ~~~ snip ~~~ How can I mimic the original typeset produced by 'texexec', so I can use mkiv? Thank you a lot! Thomas

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problem with setuptex
by Thomas A. Schmitz 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Hi all, especially Mojca, I guess, I have a somewhat bizarre problem with the setuptex script under the latest Fedora and zsh (version 5.02). Here's what happens: source ~/context/tex/setuptex "/mnt/shared/context/tex" is not a valid TEXROOT path. (There is no file "/mnt/shared/context/tex/texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex") provide a proper tex root (like '. setuptex /something/tex') The script works under bash; the error under Fedora is the same on two different computers, but I don't know if any other linux distribution has the same version of zsh. Can anyone else test and see if they have similar problems with zsh? All best Thomas

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overlay lifts image slightly
by Pablo Rodríguez 21 Jul '13

21 Jul '13

Dear list, I have the following sample code (http://www.ousia.tk/overlay.pdf) \setuppapersize[S6] \usemodule[simplefonts][size=30pt] \definesimplefonttypeface[sfserif][Free Serif][scale=10] \setupmakeup[standard][align=middle] \starttext \startstandardmakeup \dontleavehmode\externalfigure[text-icon.pdf] [scale=5000] \stopstandardmakeup \startstandardmakeup \dontleavehmode\startoverlay {\externalfigure[text-icon.pdf] [scale=5000]}{\sfserif\color[red]{✘}}\stopoverlay\stopoverlay \stopstandardmakeup \stoptext For some reason unknown to me, the overlay in the second slide has the background image slightly lifted. All I have realized is that replacing ✘ with x shows no image lift, but I need ✘. Is there any way to avoid this image lift? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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7th Context Meeting, early-bid deadline extended
by Jan Kula 21 Jul '13

21 Jul '13

Dear all, the deadline for early-bid registration to the upcoming 7th ConTeXt Meeting in Brejlov, Czech Republic was extended till July 31, 2013. Early registration also guarantees enough place for everybody who wish to attend, so you are welcome to register as soon as possible. Though there are only few abstracts ready, the growing list of participants guarantees, you will get news and experience on the best of the ConTeXt and LuaTeX world, not speaking about the possibility to meet colleagues you already now from the list in person. Enjoy the summer holidays and we are looking forward to meeting you in Breljov! Jano Kula on behalf of the organizing committee http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2013/

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still a bug with compressed linenotes and no compressseparator
by Pablo Rodríguez 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

Dear Hans, many thanks for the latest beta, that fixes the line range numbering. I’m afraid there are still two issues with compressed linenotes when the compressseparator is missing. Having linenotes from the same line separated with only blank space is a standard practice in critical editions. I’m not a philologist and I don’t have access to a library on a regular basis. If samples from http://context.aanhet.net/epen2007/share/idris/cr-apparatus.pdf are allowed, from three possible examples, figures 4.2 and 4.4 only include blank space as separator for “compressed” linenotes and figure 4.6 includes a separator (||). Here a sample (I know there is no hyphenation on body text) that shows the two issues I’m having problems with: \setuppapersize[A6] \setuppagenumbering[location=,] \definelinenote[Critico] \setupnote[Critico][paragraph=yes] \setupnotation[Critico][alternative=serried, compress=yes, compressseparator=, width=broad] \newcounter\Contadorvar \def\apcritico#1#2{\increment\Contadorvar% \startCritico[Varia:\Contadorvar]{#2}#1% \stopCritico[Varia:\Contadorvar]} \starttext \startlinenumbering \dorecurse{22}{\apcritico{origin}{variant} \apcritico{not original,}{variant} } \stoplinenumbering \stoptext If compressseparator is suppressed (such as in the sample), the space before the missing separator is removed, but the space after the separator remains. This default is buggy when the compressed linenote starts at the beginning of the line (as it is the case on lines 4-9 in the apparatus). But even with linenotes starting at other places in the critical apparatus, there is another issue: compressed linenotes have more blank space before than uncompressed ones. I think this might be visually misleading in some cases. I think there is a simple way to solve both issues: if compressseparator is set to none, the space after should be removed in all cases. Would it be possible to implement this? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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