May 2008 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

more xml in mkiv
by Thomas A. Schmitz 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

Hi all, I played some more with the new mkiv xml mechanism and am beginning to see the light: some things that turned out to be very difficult (at least for me) with the "old" mechanism are easy now. However, I still have a couple of questions: 1. I have this minimal file test.xml: <document> <itemize> <item> one </item> <item> two </item> <item> three </item> </itemize> </document> and this minimal environment test-style.tex: \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{document|itemize|item}{xml:*} \stopxmlsetups \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups} \startxmlsetups xml:document \xmlflush{#1} \stopxmlsetups \startxmlsetups xml:itemize \startitemize \xmlflush{#1} \stopitemize \stopxmlsetups \startxmlsetups xml:item \item \xmlflush{#1} \stopxmlsetups \starttext \xmlprocess{main}{\inputfilename}{} \stoptext When I run texexec --lua --env=test-style test.xml, I get output only for item "three," not for one and two. What am I doing wrong? 2. In every run, I get this warning: TeXUtil | check loading of file 'test-style', begin/end problem I don't see anything wrong with my files, though. Is this harmless? 3. I have a structure like this to get numbered labels: <lemmasection> <label>1234</label> <content> blahblah </content> </lemmasection> When I process this, I get unwanted spaces in my pdf; they disappear when I delete the newline and space between <content> and blahblah. Is there a magic command to make them disappear? Thanks, and all best Thomas

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listings.sty
by Peter Münster 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

Hello, I suggested to the author of the very feature rich LaTeX-Listings package, Carsten Heinz, to port this package to ConTeXt, and it seems, that he is interested. But before doing it, there are some questions: * What do Hans and other people thing about that? * listings.sty uses keyval.sty, how is the proper ConTeXt-way to do the same things as keyval, or should listings stay with keyval? Greetings, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ _____________________________________ FilmSearch engine: http://f-s.sf.net/

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How could a typesetting system be today?
by Maurício 14 Jun '08

14 Jun '08

Hi, Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX be if it was created today? I've tried google and wikipedia, and all I found different from TeX is a system called 'Lout', but it seems dead. Does anyone knows about novel or interesting ideas that could be used if we would write a new typesetting system from scratch? Thanks for your thoughts, Maurício

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Roll-Your-Own Stand-Alone (Was re. ConTeXt ultraminimals)
by Joel C. Salomon 14 Jun '08

14 Jun '08

I'm working on ConTeXt+SciTE-on-a-USB-Stick. A downloadable program is still far off, as is a version that can be put on PortableApps.com, but I've gotten to the point of mapping out the basic parameters: • We need to have a start-up program, which will set up the environment and start SciTE and/or a command prompt. • Legacy-free is nice, but if ConTeXt+XeTeX (which I'll call "mkiii" whether that's an official name or no) requires texexec then we need to include Ruby anyway, so we may as well keep PDFTeX (mkii), BUT: • Since my Windows machine already has Perl, Python, & Ruby, I'm going to defer working on that last point. • In fact, I'm going to defer including SciTE also, until I have a working stand-alone ConTeXt… I've put my rsync invocations on the wiki. (Since the calls are so closely tied to the directory structure of the Minimals, I added them to <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals/Structure> as an example of how to use & customize them, but I'll move it if folks think it belongs elsewhere.) Also, the commands I'm using to generate my formats are on that page. Could someone please check them for sanity? --Joel

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bibl-apa.tex wrong?
by Matej Barič 12 Jun '08

12 Jun '08

Hello, This (http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/workshop/citapa.htm) and just about any other site I look at specifies publisher info as "<city, state>: <publisher name>", whereas bibl-apa.tex specifies it as "<publisher name>, <city, state>". Why is the file called bibl-apa.tex if it doesn't follow APA rules? Am I missing something thanks, Matej

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clipping bug [or the return of the long cat]
by Peter Rolf 11 Jun '08

11 Jun '08

hi, this time fully 'context live' approved, only with natural ingredients and even more tasty. yummy yum :D % engine=luatex \starttext \definelayer[stack] \setlayer[stack][x=0pt,y=0pt]{% \clip[hoffset=0pt,voffset=0pt,width=20cm,height=1cm]% {Clipping some layer text}} %\flushlayer[stack] \setbox\scratchbox\hbox{The cat was too long to fit in this small sentence.} \framed[offset=overlay]{\clip[hoffset=0pt,voffset=0pt,width=110pt,height=15pt]{\box\scratchbox}} \stoptext the second clip uses the width value of the prior clip (20cm). but if the layer is flushed, the second clip works nearly as expected (only frame is missing). interesting. there also seems to be some mess (or only a side effect?) with the setting of \setupsystem[\c!n=2,\c!m=2] sometimes the number one is used, sometimes the number two. must break, it's supper time. regards, peter

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ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)
by Joel C. Salomon 06 Jun '08

06 Jun '08

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > luatex + context mkiv is indeed independent [of Ruby] > > - index sorting takes place in mkiv > - job control is done with mtxrun/mtx-context Now that I've been told the idea is at least possible, I've been thinking about how to generate a micro-minimal mkiv distribution: no fonts except the LM set, no engines except luaTeX, no kpathsea, & preferably no external dependencies (perl, ruby, &c.). So how to best go about this? I'm downloading the current minimals (or should I use the .zips at <http://www.pragma-ade.nl/download-1.htm>?); what can I cut out? --Joel

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mac install & page layout & numbered margin notes
by Joachim Kreimer-de Fries 06 Jun '08

06 Jun '08

Hello context-helpers for newbie: in the documents planned (in and over the Westphalian language) I wish to use many margin notes (word translations, exlanations etc.). The margin notes should be numbered with reference number (or other indication) in the text body. And I should be able to input utf-8 (because of umlaute and phonetical notations, IPA etc.). Therefore I installed some week ago => MacTeX on my MacBook Pro with OSX 10.4 (Tiger) and would like to use => ConTeXt, possibly within => TexShop (or elsewise, if better). But I need a lot of start-up help. Therefore I put the main questions of the moment here hoping, that some take pity with me and answer the one or the other of the following questions: 1. Installation of ConTeXt complete and actual? Has MacTeX braught me with it the main components of the ConTeXt system or should I update/complete it and how? texexec --version TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD 2. How to switch to the German commands in ConTeXt? (Perheps that might help me a little to learn and remember commands. Therefore I want to switch if possible now at the beginning.) 3. How to setup page/layout dimensions? Because of the work with margin notes as a form of ever present accompanying, helping side text for the reader and learner, I need say ==> the third width of the right page for the margin notes. I read the applying chapters and passages in Hans Hagen's "ConTEXt the manual" (November 12, 2001) several times, but I couldn't get it yet. 4. How to set up => numbered margin notes and, thereover, => prevent, that they are printed one over the other, when there is not enough space between the referenced words/phrases in the text body? 5. How to find and learn the possible options to the commands? The few commands and options I found yet were token from the manuals, but this was rather trial and error. I attach the (abbreviated) Example of my first Text with ConTeXt, so that you can better see, what my most needed help could be (fo to come to an output with bride (right) margin and automatically numbered margin notes). The attached TeX file gave the pdf output, but nevertheless texexec (or what ever) gives me a FAILED message in the TexShop Console: ### /usr/texbin/dvips -R -Poutline -o /tmp/altpdflatex. 1646-1211465898/LyraV-TShop-source-u.ps LyraV-TShop-source-u.dvi This is dvips(k) 5.96 Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) /usr/texbin/dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened. ### FAILED to generate /tmp/altpdflatex.1646-1211465898/LyraV-TShop- source-u.ps () Any help suggestions also for that? Thank you for reading my cry fore help, best wishes, "Met echt-westfälsken Gröiten" joachim -- Kreimer-de Fries, Berlin

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markup format ---> ConTeXt
by Gour 06 Jun '08

06 Jun '08

Hi! At the moment I use Emacs Muse for writing my study notes which I then have to submit as *.doc file (muse --> html -> OO --> doc). I like it 'cause it enables me to combine all the notes and convert into ConTeXt later. However, the only disadvantage of it is that Muse markup is tied to Emacs editor and not so popular for those using other editors. Therefore I am considering some other 'easy' markup with the ConTeXt back-end. Some of the more popular markup-formats are AsciiDoc (http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/index.html) and reStructuredText (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html) but according to what I see both are missing ConTeXt back-end (latex only) :-( Any suggestion for 'popular' markup with ConTexT back-end? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ----------------------------------------------------------------

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standardmakeup, frontmatter, bodymatter & page numbering
by Mojca Miklavec 02 Jun '08

02 Jun '08

Hello, I have a document consisting of title page, some introduction which should have pages numbered with roman numerals, and finally the real content \setuphead[subject][page=odd,style=\ss\bfb] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \starttext \startstandardmakeup title page \stopstandardmakeup \startfrontmatter \setuppagenumbering[conversion=romannumerals] \setupfootertexts[page \pagenumber{}] \subject{some intro pages} \input tufte \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter \setupfootertexts[page \pagenumber{} of \totalnumberofpages] \dorecurse{10}{\subject{real content} \dorecurse{\recurselevel}{\input knuth} } \stopbodymatter \stoptext Now the problems: 1.) The second page starts counting at 1, while counting should start at page 3. This can be solved by using another \startstandardmakeup\strut\stopstandardmakeup. 2.) The last page says "page 26 of 27" - the total page number is indeed 27, but counting started on the second page, so it never reaches the last number. 3.) I would like the page number on the first page of bodymatter to be "page 1 of 23" instead of "page 4 of 27", and the last one to ge "page 23 of 23" instead of "page 26 of 27" There is some way=bychapter setting for page numering, but in that case there are no suitable chapters/sections available. Any hints appreciated ... Thanks a lot, Mojca

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