June 2007 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

Write once layout everwhere (?)
by Pepe Barbe 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

Hello, I have used ConTeXt in the past and I have been very pleased with it and the results obtained, much more than LaTeX. Now I am looking into a solution that would allow me to layout the content ConTeXt and in other formats that ConTeXt does not (Forgive my ignorance, if I am wrong) output, like HTML, Plain Text, or RTF (Those are the formats that I can think of that are interesting to me currently). Reading the Wiki one of those solutions would be XML, but I know very little about the subject, so this email is to ask about experiences in similar endeavors, other solutions for the same problem and how practical this is. I suppose that I would use this for general writing and for academic as well (Maths and engineering). Thanks, Pepe

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Weird Fieldstack problem
by Zhichu Chen 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

Hi, I've written the following test file: ====================== \setupcolors[state=start] \setuppagenumbering[state=stop] \setupinteraction [state=start] \starttext \MPdrawingdonetrue \startMPdrawing draw (0,0)--(2cm,2cm); \stopMPdrawing \definesymbol[aa][\getMPdrawing] \startMPdrawing draw (2cm,2cm)--(2cm,0); \stopMPdrawing \definesymbol[bb][\getMPdrawing] \startMPdrawing draw (0,0)--(2cm,0); \stopMPdrawing \definesymbol[cc][\getMPdrawing] \definefieldstack[somemap][aa,bb,cc][height=fit,width=fit,frame=on] \fieldstack[somemap] \goto{here} [JS(Walk_Field{somemap})] \stoptext ====================== It seems that the fieldstack does not work. Is there anything wrong? -- Best Regards Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. China tel: 086 21 5955 3405 | zhichu.chen.googlepages.com | www.sinap.ac.cn ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] Write once layout everwhere (?)
by Duncan Hothersall 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

Hi Pepe, If you want your content to remain maintainable and manageable for a long period (e.g. decades), if you can afford it, and if you have a sufficiently large amount of content, then I strongly recommend investing the time and effort in an XML-based solution. My experience is in large scale educational/commercial applications, in which managing content in XML and using tools like ConTeXt to create beautiful print output, and alternate tools to create web output from the same source, is a very good solution. I can certainly let you know the technology we use, but some of it is commercial and expensive, and other bits are just complicated! I did a talk at the user group meeting which was kinda about this: http://context.aanhet.net/epen2007/share/duncan/ The first question to ask yourself is how much effort is your content worth. The rest of the answers flow from that, in my experience. :-) Duncan > Hello, > > I have used ConTeXt in the past and I have been very pleased with it > and the results obtained, much more than LaTeX. > > Now I am looking into a solution that would allow me to layout the > content ConTeXt and in other formats that ConTeXt does not (Forgive my > ignorance, if I am wrong) output, like HTML, Plain Text, or RTF (Those > are the formats that I can think of that are interesting to me > currently). > > Reading the Wiki one of those solutions would be XML, but I know very > little about the subject, so this email is to ask about experiences in > similar endeavors, other solutions for the same problem and how > practical this is. > > I suppose that I would use this for general writing and for academic > as well (Maths and engineering). > > Thanks, > Pepe > >

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partial hz ?
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

Hi, hz justification brings better results, sometimes (most paragraphs don't change), but the entire typesetting is generally slow down with hz almost by factor 2. Thus I'd like to have a a kind of "partial hz" that I can use on selected paragraphs only. I hoped it should work like this: \startfonthandling [stpure] \defineprotrudefactor endash 0 0.25 \defineprotrudefactor hyphen 0 0.5 \defineprotrudefactor / 0 0.5 \defineprotrudefactor , 0 0.5 \defineprotrudefactor . 0 0.5 \defineprotrudefactor : 0 0.5 \defineprotrudefactor ; 0 0.5 \defineprotrudefactor - 0 0.5 \defineprotrudefactor quotedblleft 0 0.25 \stopfonthandling \definefonthandling [stpure] [stpure] [type=hanging] definefonthandling [sthighquality] [hz,stpure] \setupfonthandling [hz] [min=20,max=20,step=5] \setupfontsynonym [Serif] [handling=sthighquality] \setupfontsynonym [SerifBold] [handling=sthighquality] \setupfontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [handling=sthighquality] \setupfontsynonym [SerifItalic] [handling=sthighquality] \setupfontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [handling=sthighquality] \setupfontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [handling=sthighquality] \usetypescript[postscript][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[postscript,10pt] \setupalign[block,hanging] ... and chosen paragraphs I'd wrap with a ... \setupalign[block,hanging,hz] But this doesn't make any improvement in speed. The only relevant change seems to be definefonthandling [sthighquality] [hz,stpure] When this is changed to definefonthandling [sthighquality] [stpure] then typesetting speeds up, of course. But this gives me no choice between main text without and selected paragraphs with hz... Any ideas? Steffen

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columnsets and footnotes
by Aditya Mahajan 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Hi, What do I need to get footnotes to work with columnsets. Somehow footntes have the wrong width. \definecolumnset [two] [n=2,balancing=yes,distance=0.2in] \starttext \startcolumnset[two] \dorecurse{10}{ \input tufte\footnote{\input zapf \endgraf} \endgraf} \stopcolumnset \stoptext Aditya

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\loadcurrentMPgraphic from metafun manual
by nicola 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Hi, I have tried the following example (metafun-p.pdf, p. 112-3): \startMPgraphic draw unitsquare xscaled 5cm yscaled 1cm withpen pencircle scaled 2mm withcolor .625red; \stopMPgraphic \hbox \bgroup \loadcurrentMPgraphic{width=5cm,height=1cm}\placeMPgraphic \quad \loadcurrentMPgraphic{width=8cm,height=1cm}\placeMPgraphic \egroup but nothing is drawn unless I remove the setups in curly braces (in which case a rectangle 5cm x 1cm is drawn). Is there a different way to pass options to the figure inclusion macro? Nicola

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gwTeX problem
by David Arnold 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

All, After using i-installer to install "gwTeX Support : Context Updater," I now get the following message: FatalError : Your format does not match the base files! FormatVersion : 2007.01.02 13:44 MK II FilesVersion : 2007.04.17 12:51 How should I proceed?

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code weaving (solved)
by Steffen Wolfrum 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Surprise, surprise: \def\setnotebodyfont {\let\setnotebodyfont\relax \restoreglobalbodyfont \switchtobodyfont[rm,9pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=9.8pt,height=.79,depth=.21]\setupalign[block,hanging,hz]\parskip2pt}% ... sometimes I wish I had administrative access to the mailing list in order to silently delete my own dump postings ... o( Steffen

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code weaving
by Steffen Wolfrum 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Hi, my footnotes are nicely defined a such: \def\setnotebodyfont {\let\setnotebodyfont\relax \restoreglobalbodyfont \switchtobodyfont[rm,9pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=9.8pt,height=.79,depth=.21]\parskip2pt}% Now I have to set the entire text with hanging/hz – same for the footnotes. But the related command ... \setupfootnotes[align={block,hanging,hz}] ... is kind of overwritten/ignored by the syntax shown above. No matter where I place it. Could someone please show me how to weave the align-instructions into the given footnote definition? Thank you, Steffen

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endlinechar redefinition
by Vit Zyka 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

Hi Hans, Jaroslav Hajtnar (in czech TeX list) encountered the problem with \input primitive redefinition. He uses a macro package for comma separated value file (CSV) inclusion. It redefines some catcodes and \endlinechar before start reading such file by \input. The problem is that during reading CSV the reading is interrupted by reading another file like \readfilename ->pdfr-ec (c:/TeXLive2005/texmf-context-a/tex/context/base/pdfr-ec.tex ConTeXt macro \input takes care about catcodes but not about \endlinechar so in this situation the file pdfr-ec is read with wrong \endlinechar which causes error. We believe that system solution is the ConTeXt takes care about \endlinechar when automatically starts reading some standard files. Please Hans can you look at it? Thanks Vit ------------------ Minimal demo attached. As a result of this problem, see the '00000' in the lower left page corner. Actually it is character ^^X (0x18, part of per-cent/per-mil char) which is used as \endlinechar delimiter.

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