April 2007 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

ConTeXt versioning model critique
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

Dear Patrtic, > ... ConTeXt would probably stabilize, which IMHO is not a good thing. > One thing I really love ConTeXt for is the speed new techniques are > adopted (pdf features, luatex,...) One day we might have a ConTeXt > MKII book for those who are afraid of swithing to pdftex2. ConTeXt should be eventually stabilized so that someone can make some use of it. But, there is a way for rapid adopting of new techniques too. My experience of using open-source products (I'm best familiar with Moodle) suggest that there should be overlapping cycles in development: 1. Allocate new version number and start implementing new features. Many things are broken at the moment and the version becomes unusable for production purposes. 2. Stabilize this version and make definite release (number x.x.). Now it can be used for production. 3. Continue resolve bugs in this version AND perform Step 1 IN PARALLEL. Moodle follows this model and I always wandered how smooth it was to migrate between releases. Everything is completely predictable. Please, look at http://download.moodle.org/ to get the idea of their versioning. I think ConTeXt needs similar versioning model badly. Now it has rather naive model (release dates) that doesn't help in deciding about stability at all. -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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layout maximal width and height
by Xan 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

Hi, Is it any way to set only left and right margin on layout and that width and height of the text are automatically set to the maximal of the possible width (that is \printpaperwidth-\leftmargin-\leftedge-\leftedgedistance-\leftmarginditance-{the same with right margins})? I think that it will be useful if there were something like: \setuplayout[ leftmargin=0mm, leftedge=10mm, %distance between border of paper and margin leftmargindistance=0mm, %distance between margin ant text leftedgedistance=0mm, %distance between margin and leftedge rightmargin=0mm, rightedge=10mm, %distance between border of paper and margin rightmargindistance=0mm, %distance between margin ant text rightedgedistance=0mm, %distance between margin and leftedge width=maximal] (see the last line) Thanks, Xan

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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical alignment of framed text
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hello Mojca, Is there need for \strut at all? The definitions \def\hotkey#1{\inframed[corner=00, offset=0pt]{\ #1\ }} and \def\hotkey#1{\inframed[corner=00,offset=0pt]{\strut\ #1\ }} work equally well and I can see no difference. I (wrongly) supposed that \strut version can prevent the frame from growing in height, but when I set offset more then zero, the height is increased too. In your original version, only the offset option was omitted, so that frames was bigger by default. With offset=0pt they look just pretty. (Until there are possibility to control width/height or xoffset/yoffset separately). Thanks a lot. Best, Vyatcheslav > On 4/19/07, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello Hans, >> I've found the following sentence in core-rul.tex: >> %D The last conditional takes care of the special situation of >> %D in||line \inframed[height=3cm]{framed} boxes. Such boxes have >> %D to be \inframed{aligned} with the running text. >> But the behaviour seems either broken or perhaps I didn't understand >> the concept. The text inside bigger \inframed command doesn't seem to >> be aligned properly: >> The last conditional takes care of the special situation of in||line >> \inframed[height=3cm]{framed} boxes. Such boxes have to be >> \inframed{aligned} with the running text. >> Thanks a lot, >> Mojca >> PS to Yatskovsky: I didn't realize that \inframed was indeed only a >> synonym for "location=low". > The culprit most probably lies here: > \installframedlocator \v!low > {} > {\doprelocframedbox\strutdp > \setbox\framebox\hbox{\lower\scratchdimen\box\framebox}% > \ht\framebox\strutht > \dp\framebox\strutdp > \box\framebox} > The box is lowered for "strut depth" + line width + offset, without > taking the extra parameter "height=..." into account. > For Yatskovsky: you can still use something like > \def\hotkey#1{\inframed[corner=00,offset=5pt]{\strut\ #1\ }} > if you need to have bigger offset (offset=...) and if you want all > your hotkeys to be equally heigh (\strut, although I believe that > strut is already there by default). > But the "forgotten case" could or should still be solved ... > Mojca

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paragraph numbering & in[..] with paragraph resolution
by Henning Haeske 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hi, as I am still new to context I really have no idea how to realize following: After each paragraph I like to have at the right bottom corner a small number. This number shout increase with every paragraph. The counting should restart after every heading (doesn't care which level). How can I realize this? Additionaly I like to use this number with the in-command: Instead of referering only to the heading number (e.g. 2.3.1) I want to refer to the paragraph (e.g. 2.3.1 / 16). But it should also be possible to refer to a group of paragraphs (e.g. 2.3.1 / 16-18 or 2.3.1 / 16, 21). Maybe with the possibility to exchange the / with anything else (e.g. 2.3.1 Abs. 17). I am really happy for any hint, tip, implementing strategy to realize this. Of course: if I have finally a working solution i will enter it into the context-wiki. Thanks, H.

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colored footnode numbers
by Henning Haeske 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hi, I want to color the footnote-numbers: the ref-number in the text und the ref-number at the bottom. I got the bottom-number colored with \setupfootnotes[color=hauptfarbe] but how can I color the footnote-number inside the text? Thanks, H.

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Vertical alignment of framed text
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hello, I want to insert "hotkeys", surrounded by a round frame, into a paragraph text. I almost have achieve it, except of proper vertical alignment. Now it is the frame that is aligned with the text bottom line. But, I want the text inside a frame to be aligned with the rest of line. (I found that \vcenter solves the problem but I don't know how to merge it with \defineframed. Or, maybe there is better solution?) \defineframed [hotkey][height=\lineheight,offset=4pt,corner=00] \starttext Another way to start or stop the device is to use hotkey. If the application is active (that is, sits on the foreground of your desktop), the hotkey is {\hotkey{Space}}. If it is not active, then use global hotkey -- \hotkey{Alt}+\hotkey{Space}. \stoptext -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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Font adventures
by Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

I have set up my own typescript file which seems, under normal circumstances, to work pretty well. It can be viewed in all its glory on http://www.grendel.no/misc/type-roffe.tex. it is mainly being used by an accompanying file at http://www.grendel.no/misc/cont- roffe.tex. I can normally get the layout I want by doing \input cont-roffe \starttext ... \stoptext funny things happen though, such as \high{B} aborts with the message that font UnicodeRegular4c is unavailable. what gives? thank you, -- Rolf Lindgren roffe(a)extern.uio.no

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bibtex: "et al." and missing spacing before "et"
by Tobias Burnus 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hello, if I tex the following example, I get: "Hu{\it et al.}" without space between "Hu" and "et". Any idea why this happens? This is with: - context version: 2007.01.12 15:56 (openSUSE's TeXLive) - ver: 2007.03.19 11:20 MKII fmt: 2007.4.2 (updated teTeX) - Live ConTeXt on the garden. bibl-aps.tex contains: \c!authoretaltext={ {\it et al.\/}}, \c!editoretaltext={ {\it et al.\/}}, \c!artauthoretaltext={ {\it et al.\/}}] Tobias \usemodule[bib] \setupinteraction[state=start] \setuppublications[alternative=aps] \startpublication[k=Hu2000,t=article, a={{Hu},{}},y=2000,o={10.1103/PhysRevB.61.5262}, n=53,s=HvLG{\etalchar{+}}00] \artauthor[]{Z.}[Z.]{}{Hu} \artauthor[]{H.}[H.]{von}{Lips} \artauthor[]{M.~S.}[M.~S.]{}{Golden} \artauthor[]{J.}[J.]{}{Fink} \artauthor[]{G.}[G.]{}{Kaindl} \artauthor[]{F.~M.~F.}[F.~M.~F.]{de}{Groot} \artauthor[]{S.}[S.]{}{Ebbinghaus} \artauthor[]{A.}[A.]{}{Reller} \pubyear{2000} \journal{Physical Review B} \volume{61} \pages{5262-5266} \stoppublication \starttext \cite[Hu2000] \section{References} \placepublications \stoptext

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\hyphenateurl and publication list: No breaking of the URL
by Tobias Burnus 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hello, I have the problem that the DOI is not hyphenated and sticks into the margin. Interestingly, the biburl is hyphenated. With my patch for t-bib (sent half a day ago), I get hypherlinks for DOI and biburl, but in that case also the biburl does not get hyphenated (nor does the DOI). Any idea what goes wrong here? Tobias %Example: \usemodule[bib] \setuppublications[alternative=aps] \setuppapersize[A5][A5] \setupcolors[state=start] \setupinteraction[state=start] \startpublication[k=Bocquet96,t=article, a={{Bocquet},{}},y=1996,o={10.1103/PhysRevB.53.1161}, n=92,s=BMM{\etalchar{+}}96,u={http://link.aps.org/abstract/PRB/v53/p1161}] \artauthor[]{A.~E.}[A.~E.]{}{Bocquet} \pubyear{1996} \journal{Phys. Rev. B} \volume{53} \issue{3} \pages{1161--1170} \biburl{http://link.aps.org/abstract/PRB/v53/p1161} \doi{10.1103/PhysRevB.53.1161} \stoppublication \unprotect \setuppublicationlayout[article]{% \insertartauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{ }{}}% \insertarttitle {\unskip, \bgroup\it }% {\/\egroup }{}% \insertjournal{\unskip, \bgroup }{\egroup} {}% \insertcrossref{In }{}{}}% \insertvolume { \bgroup \bf } {\egroup %\insertissue{(}{)}{}% \insertfirstpage{, }{}{}} {\insertfirstpage{ }{}{}}% \insertpubyear{ (}{). }{\unskip.}% \insertbiburl{ }{.}{}% \insertdoi{ doi:}{.}{}% \insertNote{ }{.}{}% \insertcomment{}{.}{}% } \protect \starttext \cite[doi][Bocquet96] / \cite[url][Bocquet96] \subject{References} \placepublications[criterium=all] \stoptext

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\setupurl and urlalternative
by Tobias Burnus 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hi, what does actually the urlalternative option of \setupurl do? If I run the following example, I don't see any difference! Tobias \useURL [test] [sentence_sentence%sentence#sentence~sentence/sentence//sentence:sentence.sentence] \startlinecorrection \hbox to \hsize {\hss\en \setupreferencing[urlalternative=both]% \vbox{\hsize.25cm\hbox{\bf both}\prewordbreak\url[test]}% \hss \setupreferencing[urlalternative=before]% \vbox{\hsize.25cm\hbox{\bf before}\prewordbreak\url[test]}% \hss \setupreferencing[urlalternative=after]% \vbox{\hsize.25cm\hbox{\bf after}\prewordbreak\url[test]}% \hss \setupreferencing[urlalternative=none]% \vbox{\hsize.25cm\hbox{\bf none}\prewordbreak\url[test]}% \hss} \stoplinecorrection \bye

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