October 2007 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

"beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex"
by Joel C. Salomon 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Testing a new installation of mswincontext, I got this message when texexecing the first example from the wiki: (c:/Users/chesky/Programs/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex Is this normal? (My setup is mswincontex.zip/isoimage/usr/local/context extracted to c:\users\chesky\programs\context, and the following environment variables set: OSFONTDIR=C:\Windows\Fonts Path=…;C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex\texmf-mswin\bin;… TEXPATH=C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex TEXMFCNF=C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex\texmf{-local,}\web2c TEXMFEXTRA=C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex\texmf-extra TEXMFFONTS=C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex\texmf-fonts TEXMFLOCAL=C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex\texmf-local TEXMFMAIN=C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex\texmf TEXMFOS=C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex\texmf-mswin TEXMFPROJECT=C:\Users\chesky\Programs\context\tex\texmf-project TEXMF={$TEXMFOS,$TEXMFPROJECT,$TEXMFFONTS,$TEXMFLOCAL,$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN} as per the discussion if a few weeks back.) --Joel

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Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems
by Santy, Michael 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Hagen, Hans wrote: > it's always a problem to determine what's left on a page > > \def\blah{The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy stupid dog.} > \dorecurse{62}{\blah} \synchronizeoutput > > this will force the otr but is not always fails safe (i.e. vertical > spacing may be messed) > > ... one of the reasons why we work on luatex -) > > Hans Hans, The "\synchronizeoutput" seemed to fix this trivial example, but it doesn't seem to fix other illustrations of this behavior. Is the "\synchronizeoutput" something that I should place at the end of every block of content (paras, sections, lists, figures, equations, etc.) in order to ensure that tables split properly. If not, is there a general workaround for this table issue that I can apply in the meantime while LuaTeX is still in development? I'm generating ConTeXt from XSL, so its very easy to make a system wide change of how the content is generated. By the way, the LuaTeX on live.contextgarden.net seems to be broken ("FatalError: Your format does not match the base files!") Cheers, Mike

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\enableregime [utf] or [utf-8]?
by Matija Šuklje 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

I've been reading a bit the docs and it seems they're a bit ambigious when it (at least wiki) comes to regimes — is it \enableregime[utf] or \enableregime[utf-8] ...both? All three?? cheers, Matija -- gsm: +386 41 849 552 e-mail: matija.suklje(a)rutka.net www: http://matija.suklje.name aim: hookofsilver icq: 110183360 jabber/g-talk: matija.suklje(a)gabbler.org msn: matija.suklje(a)rutka.net yahoo: matija_suklje

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Re: [NTG-context] itemize and math
by Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

> > > I have a problem with > > > > > > > > \startitemize[columns,a] > > > > \item $a_n=2+\frac{1}{n+1}$ > > > > \item $a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}-3$ > > > > \stopitemize > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > this did not wotk because the second formula is than the first > and > > -------------------------------------------------^ (what?) > > > > > the multicolumn OTR tries to put half or less of the text into > the > > > second column, you can now force a second column with the > \column > > > command after the first line or you switch both > > > formulas and the OTR can make two columns. > > > > > > \starttext > > > > > > \startitemize[columns,a] > > > \item $a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}-3$ > > > \item $a_n=2+\frac{1}{n+1}$ > > > \stopitemize > > > > Why is this working? Here the first column is as big as the > second > > above (same formula), so the same problem should arise with the > first > > column as above with the second? > > > No, they are not, the first row (column) is 1 points taller than the > second > one, you can test this with TeX. > > \starttext > > \setbox\scratchbox\hbox{$a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}-3$} > > Formula 1: \copy\scratchbox > > Height of formula 1: \the\ht\scratchbox > > \setbox\scratchbox\hbox{$a_n=2+\frac{1}{n+1}$} > > Formula 2: \copy\scratchbox > > Height of formula 2: \the\ht\scratchbox Ahhh! The HEIGHT (not the width) ist the problem!? So: \startcolumns \dontleavehmode \vphantom{$a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}-3$}$a_n=2+\frac{1}{n+1}$% $a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}-3$ \stopcolumns works too. Is there something like an \mathstrut macro? (I know, that there exists a macro with this name, but that uses ')' as height.) > I hope my examples helped you a little bit to understand the > problems in your example and why my methods worked. > > Wolfgang Hope, I have it! Thank you, Wolfgang

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ordering (combined) lists
by Henning Hraban Ramm 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Ahoi! In my songbook, I'd like to order the table of contents alphabetically. Is that possible or must I abuse the index features? This is my setup: \definecombinedlist [inhalt] [Titel, TitelKlein, TitelNoPage] [level=Titel, placehead=yes, criterium=all, alternative=b, offset=none] \setupcombinedlist [inhalt] [partnumber=no] Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

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Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems
by Santy, Michael 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Thanks Peter for the pointer to the multipage table in the wiki. I don't know how I overlooked that example. However, I was still able to duplicate the problem with this sample table by including a page full of text before the table (see below). If the dorecurse is set to 62 or 63, the contents slightly overflow the first page text area and only the first row of the table is rendered on the second page. If dorecurse on blah is performed 61 or 64 times, the table is rendered properly. Any thoughts? Cheers, Mike \starttext \setupcolors[state=start] \showframe \def\blah{The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy stupid dog.} \dorecurse{62}{\blah} % setup for all cells \setupTABLE[r][each][style=\tfx\it, align=center] % setup table head \setupTABLE[r][first] [background=color, backgroundcolor=yellow] % setup table footer \setupTABLE[r][last] [style=bold, background=color, backgroundcolor=green] \bTABLE[split=repeat,option=stretch]% head on every page, stretch columns % % IMPORTANT: use \bTH ... \eTH to enclose the head|next cells \bTABLEhead \bTR \bTH head1 \eTH \bTH head2 \eTH \bTH head3 \eTH \eTR \eTABLEhead % \bTABLEnext % setup for next table head \bTR [background=color,backgroundcolor=cyan] \bTH next1 \eTH \bTH next2 \eTH \bTH next3 \eTH \eTR \eTABLEnext % % the table body (main part) % \bTABLEbody % \dorecurse{100}{% 100 rows \bTR \bTC body body body body body \eTC \bTC body body body body body \eTC \bTC body body body body body \eTC \eTR }% % \eTABLEbody % % the table foot % \bTABLEfoot \bTR \bTC foot1 \eTC \bTC foot2 \eTC \bTC foot3 \eTC \eTR \eTABLEfoot % \eTABLE \stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] itemize and math
by Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Sorry, I don't understand what the problem is! > > I have a problem with > > > > \startitemize[columns,a] > > \item $a_n=2+\frac{1}{n+1}$ > > \item $a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}-3$ > > \stopitemize > > > Hi, > > this did not wotk because the second formula is than the first and -------------------------------------------------^ (what?) > the multicolumn OTR tries to put half or less of the text into the > second column, you can now force a second column with the \column > command after the first line or you switch both > formulas and the OTR can make two columns. > > \starttext > > \startitemize[columns,a] > \item $a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}-3$ > \item $a_n=2+\frac{1}{n+1}$ > \stopitemize Why is this working? Here the first column is as big as the second above (same formula), so the same problem should arise with the first column as above with the second? > \startitemize[columns,a] > \item $a_n=2+\frac{1}{n+1}$ \column > \item $a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}-3$ > \stopitemize Why does the \column help with the first formula? No, I don't understand this at all. Wolfgang

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Roman numerals
by Maurício 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Hi, Is there an automatic way of typesetting roman numerals? I imagine something like a \roman{7} that would result in a nice VII. Thanks, Maurício

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[Fwd: natural table splitting problems]
by Hans Hagen 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

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natural table splitting problems
by Santy, Michael 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

In our XML->ConTeXt->PDF workflow, we've encountered a few intermittent problems when using split natural tables. I'm not able to post the original documents in which the problems are manifesting, but below is a document that reproduces one of the problems. The first page of the document is full of text, pushing a split natural table with five rows and a header to the top of the second page. However, only the first row appears on the second page, and the rest of the table is continued on the third page. I'm using a stock ConTeXt 9/28 distribution, but this problem can also be reproduced on live.contextgarden.net. Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong or help me debug this problem? These natural table bugs are the only thing stopping us from deploying our ConTeXt workflow. Cheers, Mike Santy \setuppapersize[letter][letter] \showframe \starttext \def\blah{ Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their % country. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. } \dorecurse{28}{\blah} \placetable[split]{Broken Split Table}{ \setupTABLE[split=repeat] \bTABLE \bTABLEhead \bTR[style=\bf] \bTD Header A \eTD \bTD Header B \eTD \eTR \eTABLEhead \bTABLEbody \dorecurse{5}{ \bTR \bTD A \eTD \bTD B \eTD \eTR } \eTABLEbody \eTABLE } \stoptext

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