July 2005 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

Adding webpage to the bibliography entries
by Mojca Miklavec 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

Hello, (mostly) Taco, I don't know what the whole functionality of the urlbst (CTAN/biblio/bibtex/contrib/urlbst/) package is, but it offers an entity @webpage for bibiliography style, with url, author, title, year, lastchecked and note. I think it also adds a field url to every(?) other entity. It would be great to be able to use something like \cite[url][our nice garden], which would be equivalent to something like \useURL[bib:our nice garden][http://contextgarden.net][][http://contextgarden.net] \from[bib:our nice garden] and also add URLs to the list of publications (if requested) at the end of the file. Support would probably only make sense in the ConTeXt-wrapped bibliographies (actually is url often already present in usual bib files). Perhaps some other users have some more comments/suggestions about it. Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] Adding webpage to the bibliography entries
by Elena Fraboschi 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

In the context of bibligraphies, I have been looking at two topics that were the subject of presentations at one of the last TUG meetings, namely, Bibulus MLBibTeX Bibulus interests me because it creates bibliographies directly in XML. MLBibTeX interests me because of its extended encoding (it is billed as "European style bibliography"). In either case, at this time they are for developers only: neither is ready for prime time use (though you can download packages and "play" with them). On the other hand, they seem to be getting *very* close to prime time readiness. Conclusion: if ConTeXt is going to undertake some work concerning "the bibliography", it might be a good idea to consider how that work might tie in with Bibulus or MLBibTeX, or both. This said as an after thought to what Mojca said. Best, elena

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Re: [NTG-context] \page[+2]
by Elena Fraboschi 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Thanks, Matthias and Hans, for the tip about \page[+2]. I have not yet studied a ConTeXt presentation (read, "slides") macros, so it may well be that that use is very practical. (In any of the slides packages I know in LaTeX, it certainly would be.) As for Hans's suggestion, that it might be used to "create two empty pages", say again I think it's great - it would be better yet if the functionality \page[-2] existed to erase the last two pages, say ;-) Thanks again, elena

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Regimes to be supported; Comments?
by Mojca Miklavec 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Hello, Some time ago there was a discussion about extending support for different regimes in ConTeXt. The list of (to-be-)supported regimes probably depends strongly on the implementation (ruby+iconv?). I collected a preliminary list of candidate regimes and possible synonyms (some synonyms are listed there for backward compatibility and have to remain there), leaving out most of eastern encodings (not because they shouldn't be on the list, but because I'm completely ignorant about that). Hans suggested to post this to the mailing list first to get some useful comments and suggestions. ##### The following question should probably go in a separate thread, but it's a very similar thematic. In July 2006 Ljubljana will host people from around 85 coutries of the world. One of the very ambitious organizers is dreaming for already a couple of years to print the participant names (on honourable mentions for example, ...) in both latinic transcription and as they are written in original (under an assumption that the names are properly entered in a UTF-8 database). This is probably not possible to do for every single obscure language, but does it in general sound like: a) Good luck (I don't want to be on your place)! b) Take a good (commercial) program c) If you're ready to invest the rest of your time (forget about hobbies!), it's probably doable in LaTeX or ConTeXt until then č) Forget about TeX - it will be possible to solve this problem one day with unicode & one of the new TeX engines. But until then, it's not worth the effort, because any effort you may invest will become obsolete in a couple of years. To be honest, even some people who will thanslate the materials into the native language, will probably do that with paper, pencil & scanner. ##### Mojca And here the encodings: # ISO ISO-8859-1 Western ISO-8859-2 Central European ISO-8859-3 South European ISO-8859-4 Baltic ISO-8859-5 Cyrillic ISO-8859-6 Arabic ISO-8859-7 Greek ISO-8859-8 Hebrew Visual ISO-8859-8-I Hebrew (???) What is that? ISO-8859-9 Turkish ISO-8859-10 Nordic ISO-8859-11 Thai ISO-8859-13 Baltic ISO-8859-14 Celtic ISO-8859-15 Western ISO-8859-16 Romanian \defineregimesynonym[il*][iso-8859-*], *=1-16\12 \defineregimesynonym[latin*][iso-8859-*], *=1-16\12 \defineregimesynonym[cp819][iso-8859-1] % I'm not sure that anyone needs these: \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-100][iso-8859-1] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-101][iso-8859-2] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-109][iso-8859-3] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-110][iso-8859-4] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-144][iso-8859-5] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-127][iso-8859-6] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-126][iso-8859-7] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-138][iso-8859-8] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-148][iso-8859-9] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-157][iso-8859-10] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-179][iso-8859-13] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-199][iso-8859-14] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-203][iso-8859-15] \defineregimesynonym[iso-ir-226][iso-8859-16] % backward compatibility \defineregimesynonym[iso88595][iso-8859-5] (recode also recognises "arabic", "greek", "cyrillic", "hebrew" as an alias for those encodings: I don't if this is a good idea as there are other charset operating with the same language groups as well) # APPLE MacArabic MacCeltic MacCentralEuropean % CentEur, CentralEurope or CentralEuropean? or all of them? MacChineseSimplified MacChineseTraditional MacCroatian MacCyrillic MacDevanagari MacDingbats MacFarsi MacGaelic MacGreek MacGujarati MacGurmukhi MacHebrew MacIcelandic MacInuit MacJapanese MacKeyboard MacKorean MacRoman MacRomanian MacSymbol MacThai MacTurkish MacUkrainian \defineregimesynonym[MacCE][MacCentralEuropean] \defineregimesynonym[mac][MacRoman] \defineregimesynonym[maccyr][MacCyrillic] \defineregimesynonym[macukr][MacUkrainian] (I also need some help here: sometimes Mac encodings are defined using adjectives, sometimes using nouns, like Ukraine/Ukrainian. Should only one of them (which?) be used or both of them? On the unicode page, Mac encodings appear twice. The second time under Microsoft/Apple, containing MacCyrillic, MacGreek, MacIceland, MacLatin2, MacRoman, MacTurkish. I didn't really get the point for that.) # IBM % essentially the same as under Microsoft, with some minor changes (to be processed manually, if these are to be supported) # MICROSOFT EBCDIC % plenty of them are missing on the web cp037 cp500 cp875 cp1026 PC cp437 LatinUS cp737 Greek cp775 BaltRim cp850 Latin1 cp852 Latin2 cp855 Cyrillic cp857 Turkish cp860 Portuguese cp861 Icelandic cp862 Hebrew cp863 CanadaF cp864 Arabic cp865 Nordic cp866 Cyrillic - Russian cp869 Greek cp874 Thai WINDOWS cp874 Thai (repeats from some unknown reason) cp932 Japanese cp936 PRC GBK cp949 Korean cp950 Chinese cp1250 Central European cp1251 Cyrillic cp1252 Western cp1253 Greek cp1254 Turkish cp1255 Hebrew cp1256 Arabic cp1257 Baltic cp1258 Vietnamese \defineregimesynonym[cp125*][windows-125*], *=0-8 % backward compatibility \defineregimesynonym[windows][cp1252] % there are some other possibilities: % ms-ee, ms-cyrl, ms-ansi, as-greek, ms-turk, ms-hebr, ms-arab, ... % anyone thinks that they are needed? % It is not online in Unicode, but it is somewhere already: VISCII TCVN isoir111 \defineregimesynonym[isoir111][iso-ir-111] #### Some very confusing part (I should leave it out) #### # MISC (? probably none of them to be processed) AtariST cp424 Hebrew cp856 Hebrew cp1006 Arabic # NEXT NextStep (What's that???) next % Missing in Unicode mapping (online) TIS-620 Thai

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\parbox, \framed, ... (was: Strange behaviour of \bTABLE ... \eTABLE)
by Mojca Miklavec 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > %%%%%% > > > > \documentclass{article} > > \begin{document} > > a box with a table: > > \fbox{\begin{tabular}[c]{l}1\\2\\3\end{tabular}}\par > > > > a midaligned parbox: \parbox[c]{1em}{1 2 3} > > \end{document} > > > > %%%%%% > > > ^^^^ watch the \\ ! ! ! ! Actually, "\\" is a part of \fbox{\begin{tabular}[c]{l}1\\2\\3\end{tabular}}\par while I was talking about typesetting a midaligned parbox: \parbox[c]{1em}{1 2 3} So I have to say: no, there's no "\\" present in "\parbox[c]{1em}{1 2 3}". But please forget about different line-braking than in LaTeX \parbox. It may be that different parameters for penalties are set anyway. I mainly wrote this because of the problems in live.contextgarden.net which is not fixed yet (see http://contextgarden.net/Vertically_centred) However, some other questions arised here: 1.) I saw \hbox, \vbox, \vtop, \lbox, \cbox, \rbox, \sbox, \tbox, \bbox on page 106 of cont-eni.pdf. But if I understand it properly, there's no alternative to LaTeX \parbox command. 1.1.) After grep-ing the LaTeX tree for "\parbox", my disk ran out of space 1.2.) \bTABLE ... \eTABLE seems too complicated to me to be used for such a simple thing as asking for a paragraph of a certain width, centered with regard to the current line. So would it be possible to implement \parbox in ConTeXt (or if someone can point me to an already existing command). The LaTeX definition is in tex\latex\base\latex.ltx, line 4692 (at least in my version). It does not have to have the same syntax, but at least the basic functionality. I also often need some stuff to be centered vertically, for example [big image] ----> some arrows and text ----> [big image] I use \bTABLE ... \eTABLE or \vcenter for that, but it's not the most perfect way of doing it. 2.) Is there any *neutral* version of a \framed command? To explain what I want to achive, an example is probably most illustrative: \starttext Hasselt $\displaystyle{\rm is: \matrix{\rm nice\cr\rm sunny\cr\rm domestic}}$, but the houses there \framed{$\displaystyle{\rm are: \matrix{\rm too\ high\cr\rm too\ bricky}}$} \stoptext Thank you, Mojca

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mswincontext.zip
by Coydell Rivers 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

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background of a table and fillinlines
by Jessica Holle 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Hi, today I have real questions :-) I have a picture for the background which is defined in this way: \definelayer[BackLayer][state=start] \setupbackgrounds[text][background=BackLayer] \setlayer[BackLayer][x=9cm,y=9cm]{\externalfigure[back]} and a table, which is defined like this: \bTABLE \setupTABLE[column][1][width=2.8cm,align={middle,lohi}] \setupTABLE[column][2][width=2cm,frame=on,rightframe=off,align ={middle,lohi}] \setupTABLE[column][3][width=10.3cm,align ={right,lohi},leftframe=off] \setupTABLE[column][4][width=1.9cm,align={middle,lohi}] \bTR \bTD {\bf Tag} \eTD \bTD[nc=2] {\bf \midaligned{Ausgef"uhrte Arbeiten, Unterricht usw.}} \eTD \bTD {\bf Stundenanzahl} \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD {\bf Montag} \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD \startitemize \tx \item \item \item \item \stopitemize \eTD \bTD 7,7 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD {\bf Dienstag} \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD \startitemize \tx \item \item \item \item \stopitemize \eTD \bTD 7,7 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD {\bf Mittwoch} \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD \startitemize \tx \item \item \item \item \stopitemize \eTD \bTD 7,7 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE This table varied in its height. One week there are more items and one week the are less items. Now to my problem. I want to have this graphic in the back of the table. Always in the middle of the table. The width of the table is always the same. I can place the background but I shouldn't have a absolute position. The position should vary concerning to the height of the table. Is this possible? I've found nothing in the PDF's to this problem. Another thing are fillinrules: can I define the look of the line? Now it is always a line, but I want a thinner line or points. Like I can define in \setupunderbar but in \setupfillinrules I did't find this option. Hope somebody can help... Big thanks Greetings Jessica

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\page[+2]
by Elena Fraboschi 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Dear All: This is like going to school: every evening I study a very narrow topic in ConTeXt, the idea being "Si va piano, si va lontano" ("go slow and you'll get far"). So last night I was to study cross-references, and that was simple enough EXCEPT... I could not come up with a practical application for \page[+2] or \page[-2]. I understand the concept (I think): it is two pages ahead, or two pages back, relative to the current page. But could anyone tell me in what context (sorry for the pun) would that be used? I must be missing something. How could I possibly know what's on page "current + 2" or "current - 2" unless I compile, in which case the notation would be equivalent to inserting cross-references manually? As I said, I am missing something, but what. Thanks in advance, elena

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custom itemize bullet
by Stuart Jansen 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

I've added a custom font and defined symbols from it: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \loadmapfile[texnansi-glambats.map] \definefontsynonym [GlamoconRetrobats][texnansi-glambats][encoding=texnansi] \def\GlamoconRetrobatsSym#1{\getglyph{GlamoconRetrobats}{\char#1}} \startsymbolset[Glamocon Retrobats] \definesymbol[GuruBullet][\GlamoconRetrobatsSym{121}] % other symbols \stopsymbolset \starttext \symbol[Glamocon Retrobats][GuruBullet] \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% This produces the right symbol. But I can't figure out how to use that bullet in an itemized list. I don't think I can use \usesymbols because in some lists I want the regular bullet, and in others I want the custom bullet. Any tips would be appreciated. -- Stuart Jansen <sjansen(a)gurulabs.com> Guru Labs, L.C.

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Insufficient symbol fonts
by Eckhart Guthöhrlein 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Hi, preparing a presentation, I am into errors like ! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts. l.67 \symbol[psi]\low{\tfx{\it i\/}+1} $-$ 120, again and again. Admittedly, my font knowledge is probably the worst of my tex skills. Is there a way to increase the number of available symbol fonts? A quick hack would do, since I am kind of under pressure... Thanks, Eckhart

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