February 2004 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

numexpr in etex / bug ?
by Hans Hagen 14 Feb '04

14 Feb '04

Hi, A numexpr either ends with a \relax or is delimited by () So, the following works as expected: \number\numexpr(1) test but ... the following gives an error message: \number\numexpr(1) /test so, the expr parser looks beyond the ) which is rather strange; bug or feature? (those expr are behaving a bit strange anyway) Hans PS. for those using etex primitives, recently i ran into a bug in \lastnodetype (resulting in incorrect return values or funny side effects), this is already corrected (by fabrice/olaf) in the yet to come versions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE/POD/CTS Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Not seeing the wood because of so many trees
by "Höppner, Dierk" 13 Feb '04

13 Feb '04

Hello, just a short and simple question with hopefully a quick answer: How do I print '{' and '}'. You may answer with RTFM but please name the M and page! Thanks and sorry for the simple question. greetings Dierk Höppner Technische Informationsbibliothek Universitätsbibliothek Hannover (TIB/UB) EDV / DOD Operating Welfengarten 1b, 30167 Hannover Tel.: 0511/762-4067, Fax: 0511/762-5881 Mobil: 0163/762 4067 E-Mail: dierk.hoeppner(a)tib-hannover.de http://www.tib.uni-hannover.de

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"hanging" for a lot of paragraphs?
by Steffen Wolfrum 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Hi, I know there is \starthanging xxxx \stophanging and \hangafter=1 \hangindent=1em xxxx. Both commands need to be added to each affected paragraph again and again, right? Is there a way to have this hanging first line for a series of paragraphs - with just a kind of \starthangingarea aaaaaa bbbbbb cccccc \stophangingarea In cases like bibliographies and alike this would speed up work a lot!! Thank you very much, Steffen Wolfrum

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load order?
by Adam Lindsay 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Hi. Who's familiar with initialisation file loading order? I define some generic formatting options in cont-loc (because it's loaded by default, it doesn't get overwritten, and I use it on several machines). I successfully use them by adding a command at the start of tex source files. I'd like them to be choose-able for any file from the command line with (I presume) a mode. I've tried this in cont-loc and cont-sys, but it doesn't have an effect. \doifmode {atl} {\LocalSetup[interaction,sansheadings]} Where should I put it? Is it maybe a grouping issue? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Update Problem
by Stefan Wachter 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Hi all. I try to update teTeX 2.0.2 to the current context distribution (cont-tmf.zip of 2004-1-13). After updating I can not process my old files. I get the following error message: ! Undefined control sequence. \@@toks ->\everyTEXinputmode Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Thank you for your attention, --Stefan These are the steps took to update ConTeXt: 1.I deleted all context subdirectories in the tetex/share/texmf directory. 2. I unpacked the cont-tmf.zip file into that directory. 3. I run texhash. 4. I created the formats by "texexec --make nl en de".

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using \localenvironment
by Mari Voipio 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

I've finally managed to set up my first project (a project file, an environment file, a product file and two components). It works quite reasonably, but only until I try to introduce a local environment that would only apply to this product (and not the 3-4 others I expect this project to contain at a later date). I do not understand how to make it work. First I tried to make a local environment as a part of my environment file, like this: \startlocalenvironment[gl-01] \setupheadertexts[Start-up instructions][GL-01] \stoplocalenvironment If I understand correctly, I could implement this local environment by adding the command \localenvironment[gl-01] somewhere - but where: in the project file before or after the name of the product in question or in the product file somewhere? I also tried making a separate file gl-01_env.tex which says \startlocalenvironment \setupheadertexts[Start-up instructions][GL-01] \stoplocalenvironment Now it could be implemented by giving the command \localenvironment gl-01_env but again, I'm at loss as to where the command should be given. An additional problem seems to be that my ConTeXt is old enough (if it ain't broke, don't fix it - so updates are pending) to be subject to missing English synonyms; however, the fix suggested in <http://ml-archives.mini.pw.edu.pl/ntg-context/msg06984.html> (using Dutch equivalents for some commands) doesn't seem to work for me, possible because of the problems above; I haven't yet managed to figure out which command goes where. I would be grateful indeed if I got a simple example on how to implement one local environment to one product and another one to another product. Or, if there's another manual for the project structure (not the beginner's manual or the big one, both have the same text without any examples, neither has definitions on the localenvironment commands), just give me a pointer...

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can TeX do That?
by Adam Lindsay 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

As a follow-up to yesterday's question from an ex-FrameMaker user, William Adams posted the following response to Hans's response: ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Can Tex do That? From: "William F. Adams" <wadams(a)atlis.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:15:07 -0500 I've been very busy at work lately (but finally finding (some) time to work on TUG2003 and my paper ;) The answers received here and on TeXHaX are quite good though, so I didn't feel (too) guilty about not answering. Did want to comment on this: On Monday, February 9, 2004, at 10:41 AM, Adam Lindsay quoted Hans Hagen saying: > - i still have to find something that cannot be done in tex (apart from > page by page made up documents but that's a different game anyway) Actually, when automated layout styles break down here or simply won't raise up to the customer's quality expectation here at work, doing such on a case-by-case, page-by-page basis is the raison-detre (sorry, not sure 'bout the funny French accents ;) for my employment here. Doing such manually / by hand in TeX is the first line of defence and is usually where things are held at (picking spreads to run long / short is a good example as is forcing float placement), but at need we'll fall back on tweaking things w/ Enfocus PitStop or (re)creating a section in FreeHand or Illustrator. This is usually done in the final moments of a project when time is tight and there's no payoff for doing things programmatically (most of our books are one-offs and the designer was _not_ paid extra for series use) A question I've not seen asked is, did you trouble to tag your documents w/ SGML? If so, you're a good ways toward re-use / switching to a formatting engine like TeX. If not, what's your budget? My suggestion would be to set up LaTeX documentclass packages for all the documents which you create, then use LyX for editing all of your text source (and rtf2latex to pull in Word .docs from the un-washed masses), w/ a .layout file for LyX which calls your documentclasses, things should, ``just work'' at that point except for the odd special case which will require manual tweaking (can be done as ERT (evil red text --- raw LaTeX code) inserted into the text). There was a very nice presentation at TUG2003 on doing this sort of switch, but the company bought the code and it wasn't released. Can't resist pointing out though that John Warnock swore up and down that for so long as he was in charge at Adobe after their purchase of Frame Corp. Adobe would do FrameMaker (nominally he's not in charge of day-to-day operations these days). William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------

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Fwd: MacOSX-TeX Digest #923 - 02/08/04
by Adam Lindsay 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Hi folks. The below email showed up recently on the MacOSX/TeX list, and I thought it might be worthy of some ConTeXt-centric discussion. ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Subject: MacOSX-TeX Digest #923 - 02/08/04 Date Sent: Sunday, 8 February 2004 20:00 From: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <MacOSX-TeX(a)email.esm.psu.edu> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <MacOSX-TeX(a)email.esm.psu.edu> Subject: Can Tex do That? From: "Roland Schoettle" <rolands(a)otii.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 15:41:51 -0800 Greetings, I hope someone on this list can help me. In particular I have been told I should ask William Adams for assistance. In the event he is not active on this list, I would be grateful if this message were relayed to him. I am a disappointed FrameMaker user. Initially we used Frame on PCs with good result. Our business is now moving away from the Windows platform. Before committing to our last Frame upgrade, Adobe assured us Frame would be available for OSX. (At one point they went so far as to promise Linux support and even released a Linux beta). It is now apparent Adobe will not support OS X (or Linux) and has in fact recommended "upgrading" to InDesign. We have looked at InDesign and believe it to be significantly inferior for our requirements. However good, InDesign cannot do many FrameMaker functions such as footnotes, autoflow of text and paragraphs, math symbols, cross-referencing, etc. Further, Adobe is blatantly unsympathetic. I have used Tex in the very distant past and recall it had tremendous capability but never tried using it for the many complex graphics applications which now are prerequisites for business. I would like to try Tex again, but thought it best to ask if Tex can now be used to create reasonably complicated color product brochures. The goal would be to produce brochures, newsletters, business proposals, and also "publish" data from databases that look as if from a high-end layout package such as Quark Express or something similar. Can Tex be easily used for these type of functions? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Roland Schoettle ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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ex-files style
by Michal Kvasnicka 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Good morning. I found on the Pragma web the `ex-files.pdf' file. I extremely like its look. Is somewhere a presentation style similar to it? Many thanks. Michal Kvasnicka

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How to produce PDF links with custom action?
by Stefan Wachter 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Hi all! Does ConTeXt allow to create links with custom actions? I have a working LaTeX / PDF-TeX solution which I am not able to port to ConTeXt. The following PDF-TeX code contained in a LaTeX file produces the desired PDF-Code. \\pdfstartlink attr{/Border [ 0 0 0 ]} user{/Subtype/Link/A << /S /AVDP_Action /AVDP_Param (../../nach-dateipfad.pdf 1)>>} here is a link \\pdfendlink Yet, if I include the same lines of code in a ConTeXt file then no link is generated. Thanks for you attention, Stefan

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