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Re: [NTG-context] Dropped caps, \startlines\stoplines, and indentation question
by Adrian Drury 29 Jan '06

29 Jan '06

Radhelorn wrote: > > Adrian Drury wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm having trouble using dropped caps within \startlines\stoplines. > > I'm trying to typeset some poetry and I'm using > > \setuplines[space=yes]. I'd like to use dropped caps and have the > > indented lines be additionally indented by any space at the beginning > > of the lines. > > > > See the following example - the first part shows roughly the result I > > want (but with manual formatting/spacing), the second part shows the > > result of \DroppedCaps inside \startlines\stoplines, and the third > > part uses the lettrine module. The lettrine module comes close, but > > Nindent doesn't seem to affect the indented lines within > > \startlines\stoplines. > > > > \usemodule[lettrine] > > \def\MyDroppedCaps% > > { \DroppedCaps > > {} {Serif} {2\baselineskip} {2pt} {1\baselineskip} {2} > > } > > \setuplines[space=yes] > > > > \starttext > > \MyDroppedCaps S{\sc umer} is icumen in,\crlf > > \hbox to .6em{}Lhude sing cuccu!\crlf > > Groweth sed, and bloweth med,\crlf > > \hbox to .6em{}And springth the wude nu---\crlf > > \hbox to 3.3em{}Sing cuccu! > > > > \startlines > > \MyDroppedCaps S{\sc umer} is icumen in, > > Lhude sing cuccu! > > Groweth sed, and bloweth med, > > And springth the wude nu--- > > Sing cuccu! > > \stoplines > > > > \startlines > > \lettrine{S}{umer} is icumen in, > > Lhude sing cuccu! > > Groweth sed, and bloweth med, > > And springth the wude nu--- > > Sing cuccu! > > \stoplines > > \stoptext > > > > Any suggestions for how to do this? I'm a beginning ConTeXt user, so > > if there's a better/different way to do this, I'd be happy to hear it! > > > > Also, I read the list in digest form. For the benefit of people using > > threaded mail readers, is there a better way to reply to individual > > messages than replying to the digest message and editing the Subject > > line appropriately? > > > > Thanks very much, > > Adrian Drury > > _______________________________________________ > > ntg-context mailing list > > ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > > > > > Try > > \startlines > \vbox{\lettrine{S}{umer} is icumen in,\crlf Lhude sing cuccu!} > Groweth sed, and bloweth med, > And springth the wude nu--- > Sing cuccu! > \stoplines > > -- > Radhelorn < radhelorn(a)mail.ru> > Thank you very much for your suggestion - it does most of what I want to do. I have a follow-up question if anybody would like to provide more help! Because lines in \startlines\stoplines with \setuplines[space=yes] can be indented by space characters, I want to set Nindent for the dropped cap to (N * <width of space character>), so lines can be indented by the exact same amount they would be with spaces in \startlines\stoplines. Is there a way to calculate the width of some number of characters (or a string of characters) to use as a dimension parameter? For example, a macro that returns the width in points of 5 space characters in the current font? I figured hardcoding the width of a space as a percentage of an em might work, but would probably not be consistent across fonts. Is that true, or is it really that simple? I'd also be happy with a way to preserve spaces in the text inside the vbox (and ignore any Nindent dimension calculation), because then I could just add the appropriate number of spaces for indentation after the \crlf, like this: \vbox{\lettrine{S}{umer} is icumen in,\crlf <2 spaces>Lhude sing cuccu!}, as I do in \startlines\stoplines. Thanks very much, Adrian Drury

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Lettrine and \startnarrower question
by Adrian Drury 29 Jan '06

29 Jan '06

Hello, Using \lettrine (version 2005.08.29) inside \startnarrower\stopnarrower gives results I didn't expect - see the example below. Part of the text seems to be shifted right by an additional left-indent amount. Is this correct and/or expected behavior? If it is, is there a workaround to shift it back? \usemodule[lettrine] \starttext \input knuth \startnarrower \lettrine{T}{est} \input knuth \stopnarrower \stoptext Thanks, Adrian Drury

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figure library problem
by David Arnold 29 Jan '06

29 Jan '06

All, My source (section5figs.tex) compiles and produces section5figs- mpgraph.14 without error message. But when I try to compile junk.xml with: texexec --pdf --use=fig-make --mode=letter junk.xml I get this error: (./junk.xml) ! Too many }'s. \processXMLfilegrouped ...ifmmode \else \par \fi } l.343 \processXMLfilegrouped{\jobfilename.xml} ? I checked that section5figs-mpgraph.14 compile with mptopdf. This is the first time I've experienced any difficulty with the figure library. Any ideas or suggestions?

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Underfull \hbox and align=middle
by Peter Münster 28 Jan '06

28 Jan '06

Hello, this seems a bit strange to me: \setupalign[middle] \starttext bla bla bla % here: underfull \hbox bla bla bla bla bla bla bla % here not... \stoptext Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

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placefigure & headers topframe interactions
by Renaud AUBIN 28 Jan '06

28 Jan '06

Hi all, I use in my document: \setupbackgrounds[header][text][bottomframe=on] \setupbackgrounds[footer][text][topframe=on] in order to obtain black rules. Since I don't want the topframe on in the chapter's first pages, I use in setuphead the option header=high... It works if I have only text in my document, but when I use \placefigure[here][fig:afigref]{A dummy label}{\externalfigure[dummy]} to include METAFUN or pdf graphics, I obtain a black rule (topframe) on top of the first page of the next chapter... Seems very strange... I tried to solve the problem but, unfortunately, without success ! Any idea ?

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\hbox and figures
by andrea valle 28 Jan '06

28 Jan '06

Hi to all, I guess it's something obvious but... I was taking a look at the nice cows on p.298 cont-eni: I cannot understand why in compiling this code "test" is always one line down and never on the same line, just on quarter's side. Quarter is a small figure, and I tested with other small figures, both in pdf and png. \starttext \hbox {\externalfigure[quarter]} test \stoptext Many thanks! -a- Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea andrea.valle(a)unito.it

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Chapters, setupbackgrounds[header] issue & indenting issue
by Renaud AUBIN 28 Jan '06

28 Jan '06

Hi all, I have made a small document in order to show you issues I have to face with. 1. At page 3, why do I have bottomframe=on in the header althought I use high option ? It's ok at page 1 and 4. 2. At page 4, it works only because the previous chapter is on one page ! Don't see why with my present ConTeXt skills. 3. Concerning indenting, the first paragraph of each section isn't indented, why and how to modify ? I have seen that the order of options matters but I don't understand how work "next" and "first" options because when I use it, I don't obtain indentation at all. What I'm doing wrong ??? It drives me crazy since these features are prerequisites for my PhD style ! Renaud

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ConTeXt IRC ?
by Renaud AUBIN 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

Hi all, Is there a context-related irc channel ? Renaud

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how to embed a postscript Times
by Steffen Wolfrum 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

Hi, I have to typeset a document in postscript Times Roman. I guess I have to use \usetypescript[postscript][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[postscript,10pt] But is this enough to make sure that my Times is really embedded and not "overwritten" by the standard printer Times when the PDF is printed? (I don't feel comfortable when using these standard fonts, that everybody has but none are the same ...) Steffen

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Typesetting chemical reaction equations
by Ville Voipio 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

I would need to typeset some rather simple reaction equations. I do not need the structural capabilities of PPCHTeX, just something simpler. The thing I am writing has something to do with physical chemistry, so I need mathematical equations, as well. Of course, the natural way to do this: \placeformula \startformula \rm NH_3(g) + H^+(aq.) + Cl^-(aq.) \rightarrow NH_4^+(aq.) + Cl^-(aq.) \stopformula This gives rather pleasant-looking results. However, is this the right (i.e. kosher) way of doing things, or do I run into trouble at some later point with this? What are you chemists using? And how do I switch off the equation numbering for the chemical reactions (I'd like to have the mathematical formulae still numbered)? TIA, - Ville

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LaTeX array equivalence with multiline \lbrace
by Renaud AUBIN 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

Hi all, With LaTeX, I have $$ \left\lbrace \begin{array}{l} \dot{q}_i = 1 \quad\text{ if } i=k \\ \dot{q}_i = 0 \quad\text{ else} \end{array} \right $$ How to do this within a ConTeXt document ?

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itemize[loose]
by Hans van der Meer 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

When typesetting an enumeration with a specified item text I encountered an error with the combination of [loose] with \sym{} and \mar{}. The hope was that "loose" will allow underfull filling of the lines without complaint (I don't like TeX complaining) An example follows: \starttext \setupitemize[loose] \startitemize \sym {xyz} 12345 \stopitemize \stoptext Error message: ! Undefined control sequence. <argument> \optimizeitemsfalse \p!compareprocessaction ...commalistelement {#3}#2 \expandafter \quitcommalis... etc. Is this expected behaviour? The manual does not give me an idea about that. yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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SVG images
by Ville Voipio 26 Jan '06

26 Jan '06

I would need to embed some SVG images into a ConTeXt document. I have done some research on the topic, and the seemingly trivial task seems all but impossible. I found a few solutions, but none of them fits my needs: - I want to have my vector images in vector format (i.e., no Inkscape-to-PNG) - alpha-channel transparency is used in the images, and it should be present in the PDF file, as well (i.e., no Inkscape-to-EPS) - if I used commercial products, I would not use SVG (i.e., the converter should be open source) The images have been (will be) created with Inkscape. While being otherwise a surprisingly nice piece of software, Inkscape does not seem to export PDF for some reason or another (licencing, time, etc.). I have the impression I just ran out of luck. Did I? - Ville

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color in before=
by Hans van der Meer 26 Jan '06

26 Jan '06

I want to put a color command in a "before" command, that command being inserted in a macro. Something like \setupxyz[before=\color[green]{whatever}] The problem is that the argument parser gets confused when []- expressions are found within the setup. It is not an option to reprogram everything with {}'s instead of []'s, because then I lose to much of ConTeXt's abilities (apart from the nuisance of having to reprogram something that has already been done). I suspect there is no way of sneaking in these []'s inside the command? That is the general solution. My eyes spotted something like \dowithcolor#1#2, but there TeX complains about not knowing \od. Is there a solution to this problem? yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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lines and tables
by p.broschwitz＠freenet.de 26 Jan '06

26 Jan '06

Hi Forum, I need a little help to create lines and tables. I would like to positioning lines and tables exactly. So I think I must work with layers! Is it right? And could anybody show me an example for creating these lines and tables? Thanks very much! Petra Broschwitz Ihr Traumpartner ist nur einen Klick entfernt. 1 Million Singles warten auf Sie in Deutschlands beliebtester Partnerboerse: http://singles.freenet.de/index.html?pid=11512

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embedding multipage pdf
by andrea valle 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Hi to all, I'm preparing a (standard) musical score. I've scored the music with lilypond and I have as output an A3 pdf of many pages. My idea was to create the cover and the other information pages surrounding the music with Context. In fact, I happily prepared my A3 context pages and I was trying to include the music pdf in the resulting tex file . I simply put my pdf in \externalfigure: it works, but only for first page. How do I include all the pdf? I can solve printing the pages from the context and lilypond output files, and then gluing the resulting paper, but I'd like to have an integrated source file to be printed. Thanks a lot -a- Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea andrea.valle(a)unito.it

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strange \v!on
by Hans van der Meer 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Encountered something strange setting up the parameters of framed. This runs normal: \setupframed[frame=off,strut=\v!no, ... This gives an error: \setupframed[frame=\v!off,strut=\v!no, ... The same happens with \v!on as parameter. The difference is "off" vs. "\v!off" (of course running within \unprotect .. \protect pair). It seems to go wrong at the "frame" parameter only, because for example strut accepts \v!no. Is there perhaps a clash with another macro? I get this in the console (TeXShop): ! Missing \endcsname inserted. <to be read again> \let \dobuildtextaccent #1#2->{\let \char \normalaccent #1\let \char \normalchar #2} \dohandleaccent ...acterencoding #1\endcsname {#2} \fi \fi \fi \@@oiframe ->\v ! on <argument> t\@@frame@@ \framedparameter \c!frame \framedparameter \c! topframe \getvalue #1->\csname #1 \endcsname ... l.44 \stoptable }{first table} ? Process aborted yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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Dropped caps, \startlines\stoplines, and indentation question
by Adrian Drury 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Hello, I'm having trouble using dropped caps within \startlines\stoplines. I'm trying to typeset some poetry and I'm using \setuplines[space=yes]. I'd like to use dropped caps and have the indented lines be additionally indented by any space at the beginning of the lines. See the following example - the first part shows roughly the result I want (but with manual formatting/spacing), the second part shows the result of \DroppedCaps inside \startlines\stoplines, and the third part uses the lettrine module. The lettrine module comes close, but Nindent doesn't seem to affect the indented lines within \startlines\stoplines. \usemodule[lettrine] \def\MyDroppedCaps% { \DroppedCaps {} {Serif} {2\baselineskip} {2pt} {1\baselineskip} {2} } \setuplines[space=yes] \starttext \MyDroppedCaps S{\sc umer} is icumen in,\crlf \hbox to .6em{}Lhude sing cuccu!\crlf Groweth sed, and bloweth med,\crlf \hbox to .6em{}And springth the wude nu---\crlf \hbox to 3.3em{}Sing cuccu! \startlines \MyDroppedCaps S{\sc umer} is icumen in, Lhude sing cuccu! Groweth sed, and bloweth med, And springth the wude nu--- Sing cuccu! \stoplines \startlines \lettrine{S}{umer} is icumen in, Lhude sing cuccu! Groweth sed, and bloweth med, And springth the wude nu--- Sing cuccu! \stoplines \stoptext Any suggestions for how to do this? I'm a beginning ConTeXt user, so if there's a better/different way to do this, I'd be happy to hear it! Also, I read the list in digest form. For the benefit of people using threaded mail readers, is there a better way to reply to individual messages than replying to the digest message and editing the Subject line appropriately? Thanks very much, Adrian Drury

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ConTeXt and Colors
by Petra Broschwitz 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Hi, I’m new in this forum and I need a little help about colors and overstocking (trapping?)! In German it means Überfüllung! Did anybody knows how colors and overstocking works? Best regards! Petra Broschwitz

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formula in itemlist
by Hans van der Meer 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

I want to place a math formula in the item of an itemlist, but I keep getting overfull hboxes. A minimal example follows: \starttext \startitemize \item dit is een \item dit is een formule \placeformula[-] \startformula n= 0 % this is line 7 \stopformula \stopitemize \stoptext in the log it says: Overfull \hbox (17.62474pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 7--7 [][] \hbox(10.41603+4.05064)x0.0 .\glue(\leftskip) 17.62474 .\hbox(0.0+0.0)x0.0 .\hbox(10.41603+4.05064)x0.0 ..\rule(10.41603+4.05064)x0.0 ..\glue 0.0 plus 1.0fil minus 1.0fil .\penalty 10000 .\glue(\parfillskip) 0.0 plus 1.0fil .etc. Removing the "\placeformula" makes no difference. Although a fallback to $$ n = 0 $$ makes the overfull hbox go away, it does not seem the "ConTeXt" way of doing. Is this something in formula about not changing a hbox-width inside the itemize? yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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A feq questions about eating spaces in macros
by Radhelorn 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Hello! I have a few questions about ignoring unnecessary spaces and blank lines. The following example illustrates my problem. In the first start/stop pair text after \startcommand is not bold as it should be, in the second it is bold but blank line is before. I've tried to fix this with various manipulations with \noindent with moderate success. Another problem is necessity to explicitly add % character before \stopcommand to ignore newline. How to do this inside macro with this combination of lines and sidebar? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. --------- \setuplines[before=,after=] \def\startcommand{\dosingleargument\dostartcommand} \def\dostartcommand[#1]% {\bgroup\defineshortcut[style=bold]#1\startlines\startsidebar} \def\stopcommand{\stopsidebar\stoplines\egroup} \starttext \startcommand <this must be bold> \input knuth <this is bold>% \stopcommand some text \startcommand[arg] <this is bold indeed but with a blank line before> \input knuth \stopcommand \stoptext -- Radhelorn <radhelorn(a)mail.ru>

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getting characters
by Hans van der Meer 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

While fiddling with character strings I found the \getfirstcharacter macro which is very handy. However, I am consuming a character string character by character. Although I have a macro for that, I think it is a good policy to stay as much as possible within the ConTexT framework when concocting macro's to be used under ConTeXt. Now for the question. \getfirstcharacter puts the first character in \firstcharacter. I looked for a macro containing the rest of the string but could not find one. Something like: \getfirstcharacter{abc} then \firstcharacter = a \lastcharacters = bc This will make it possible to process a string character by character, in the same way as \processcommalist does with comma separated strings. But possibly this is already somewhere in the code and I overlooked it. yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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\dot & lucida
by Renaud AUBIN 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Hi all, I use lucida fonts for my documents with \usetypescriptfile[type-buy] \loadmapfile[ec-bh-lucida.map] \usetypescript[lucida][ec] \setupbodyfont[lucida,10pt] When I will use \dot in math formula, the result seems to be a \prime\prime. It works without lucida... Strange ??? I don't understand the reason of this behavior. I suspect the use of ec, am I right ? Anyway, it's strange ! Renaud

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itemize & indent
by Renaud AUBIN 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

Hi all, \startnarrower[left] \startitemize[1] \item .... \stopitemize \stopnarrower Is there another solution in order to ident itemize ? Since many french documents need indentation of every paragraph and itemize, maybe it will be a good idea to manage this behavior as a langage issue... For example, I use \setupindenting[first,medium,yes] but I need \indent after \section{dummy} in order to obtain indentation of my first paragraph.

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\startalignment etc. require text immediately after
by Ville Voipio 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

One phenomenon I have repeatedly come accross but not quite understood... If I have \startalignment, \startnarrower, etc., then there has to be text immediately after the start command. As small example: \startalignment[center] \bTABLE \bTR \bTD something \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stopalignment This should create a single-cell table in the middle of the page. It does not, the text is in the left. If I add something small (a strut), then everything works fine: \startalignment[center] \strut \bTABLE \bTR \bTD something \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stopalignment Any text has the same effect as the strut. If the text is added to the end, it does not have any effect, i.e. the start has no effect. After some quick experimenting it seems evident that there has to be text after the start command. A figure or a table won't do. Why? And does this occur with any start-stop pair (sounds odd) or just with a few? And what is the kosher way of solving this problem? This must be a FAQ, but I could not find the search terms to find an answer. TIA, - Ville

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math
by Hans Hagen 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

Hi, Attached is a new version of math-ext - multiple columns - alignment per column See examples in source (mixed &|cr and NC|NR is no longer supported). That's all the math for this week. Hans

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Math Cases
by Aditya Mahajan 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

Is it possible to number each part of the cases environment. I want \startformula a = \cases{ b, & \text{ if something} \cr c, & \text{ if something else} \cr} \stopformula to come out as { b if something (1) a = { { c if something else (2) Also, is it possible to have subnumbered equations, that is can I get (1a) and (1b) instead of (1) and (2). Thanks, Aditya -- Aditya Mahajan, EECS Systems, University of Michigan http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam || Ph: 7342624008

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AutoDroppedCaps and indenting
by Joshua Ellis 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

This may be a silly question, but it appears the use of \AutoDroppedCaps (or \DroppedCaps) causes indenting settings to do away. For example: ======================== \AutoDroppedCaps \setupwhitespace[none] \setupinterlinespace[small] \setupindenting[medium] \indenting[yes] \starttext Para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah Para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah Para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah \stoptext ========================= Without \AutoDroppedCaps each paragraph is indented as expected. With \AutoDroppedCaps, none of the paragraphs are indented. If \AutoDroppedCaps is enabled, if I place \indenting[yes] immediately after the first word of the first paragraph (so it looks like "Para \indenting[yes] 1"), then the 3rd paragraph is indented, but the second one is still flush-left. Any ideas? Thanks, -joshua

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lijgatures in LM
by Mojca Miklavec 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

Hello, (the Dutch team), Is it possible to prevent the "IJ" ligature in ec encoding in LM fonts in ConTeXt somehow (except with manual intervention in every word containing IJ)? I checked the behaviour in LaTeX with \usepackage[T1]{inputenc} with the default font (some kind of Type 1 CM, but not LM), but it seems that only LM changes I and J to a ligature (grrr ...). With the font in LaTeX it works OK. "pdftotext" only knows how to convert the LaTeX document properly. With the document prepared by ConTeXt, it fails to recognize the ligature properly (searching in Acrobat works however). Besides the fact that I and J separately (without a ligature) look much better, at least in Slovenian words. Thanks, Mojca If any expert for ligatures is reading this: is it fair that "ccaron" + "k" ("h") have negative kerning, while "c" + "b" has no kerning at all? I guess that "ck" was made because of the Germans, but at the same time I guess that they don't need "čk" at all and I have a feeling that the caron almost "bumps" into the serif. I compared with LaTeX, but that font uses a smaller caron. (Without EC encoding there's no negative kerning after ccaron present anyway.)

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setupheadertexts + kap/uppercase
by Tobias Burnus 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

Hello, I think I have a expand problem. I want to have \setupheadertexts[pagenumber][{\getmarking[chapter][current]}][section][pagenumber] with the chapter in \uppercase/\kaps. The problem is that adding a \uppercase or \kap before the {\getmarking} ends up with nothing and all my attemps with expand* ended up with either the same result or with a TeX error message. Using \setupheader[style=kap] (or =cap) does not work - as TeX bails out: ! Undefined control sequence. \p!doifinstringelse ...ifinstringelse #2#1}@@\war Any idea how to solve this? Tobias PS: I just saw that I asked the same question two years ago (15 January 2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg02175.html

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Subtle problem with startformula
by David Arnold 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

All, If you're not aware of this one, consider: \placeformula[-] \startformula [-2,2)=\{x:\, -2\le x < 2\}. \stopformula Won't compile, but try: \placeformula[-] \startformula\relax [-2,2)=\{x:\, -2\le x < 2\}. \stopformula

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Problems installing Gentium TTF
by Kumar Appaiah 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

Hello! I am tryingto install the Gentium True type fonts, following the instructions at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installing_a_TrueType_font%2C_step_by_step Everything went of well, and I was also able to get the pages of glyphs from the tests. However, when I try to get the test document provided at the end of that page to work, I get: bodyfont : unknown variant MyGentium from texexec. I have installed the fonts with --en=ec, so that is ruled out. What could the problem be? Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036

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setupthinrules
by Hans van der Meer 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

Doing thinrules one can place a number of them. However the interlinespace seems fixed to whatever has been chosen for "small, medium, big". I looked into the code but could not find a more flexible mechanism, as for example interlinedistance=dimension Trying to get the rules close to one another I tried \setupthinrules[height=2pt,depth=0pt,interlinespace=medium] \thinrule\godown[1pt]\thinrule But the natural height of the lines then interfers. Setting \godown [negative amount] will work, of course, but seems unnatural to me. At least I feel it condems me to trial and error between the rule dimensions and the amount of backspace. I therefore suggest making the interlinespace accessible as a distance settable by the user and being the separation between the bottom of the upper and the top of the lowerline in the case of \thinrules[n=2]. By the way, doesn't that give thinrules then the same option as in setuptextrules[distance=dimension]? yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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getcommalistsize
by Hans van der Meer 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

I wanted to do something with the length of a commalist but found that it macro \getcommalistsize does not seem to respond. Here is a small test: \starttext \def\showcommalist#1{commalist=(#1)\crlf (size=\getcommalistsize[#1])\crlf \processcommalist[#1]\showcommalistitem\crlf (commalistsize=\commalistsize)\par} \def\showcommalistitem#1{item = #1 } \showcommalist{a,b,c,d,e} \showcommalist{1,2,3} direct call (size=\getcommalistsize[p,q]) \stoptext result: commalist=(a,b,c,d,e) (size=) item = a item = b item = c item = d item = e (commalistsize=5) commalist=(1,2,3) (size=) item = 1 item = 2 item = 3 (commalistsize=3) direct call (size=) As can be seen the macro \getcommalistsize does not give a value back, \processcommalist works. Am I doing something wrong here or understood it wrong? yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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Nath bug?
by Aditya Mahajan 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

The following does not work? Everything is fine if I replace the nath module with amsl. Any suggestions on how to make this work. \usemodule[nath] \starttext \startalign a &= \underbrace{b}_{c} \\ c &= d \stopalign \stoptext Thanks, Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] SciTE Setup in Windows and .rb scripts
by Hooman Javidnia 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hi This is still in the same line as my effort to make SciTE work flawlessly with ConTeXt. Accoridng to Hans's last email on the subject, I thought that I have to install Lua and Python on my Win XP machine too. So I did. Lua seems to be a very small program. Am I right? I installed version 5.1 for Win32 and it has only 4 files, of which 3 are .exe files and one is a .dll. In my try to make things to work, now even my TeX files don't compile. The structure of my files is like this: 1) context.properties is in the same path as SciTEUser.properties and the latter file has only one line in it: import context 2) All other context-*-scite.properties files are in the main folder of SciTE. 3) I noticed that there should be come file scite-ctx.properties in one of the directories. I have put it in the main SciTE folder. Is that the right place? 4) Isn't there some other ctx files that should be copied to the main SciTE folder? Where can I get those? I didn't find those in the MikTeX implementation on my machine? 5) As soon as I press F7 in the output view I get: >texmfstart concheck.rb myfile.tex unknown file type: texmfscripts >Exit code: 0 No output is being generated. Sorry to take your time with this issue. It might sound simple to some people, but it actually isn't that simple. I will write about my experiences later on when I am done with the setup. Thanks. -hooman

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placefloat
by Hans van der Meer 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

(1) My intention was to place some material into the left margin on the page, but did not succeed. Using \startmarginblock ... \stopmarginblock resulted in placement in the margin to the right, could not get it to the left. The I experimented with the placeffloat mechanism and didn't succeed either. Tested with the following example: \starttext \definefloat[sidenote][sidenotes] This is the text before in the body of the document. \placesidenote[inleft]{abc}{margintext} This is the text after in the body of the document. \page on page two. \stoptext Summary of the results for the [position] parameter with the values given in the ConTeXt manual Table 12.1. (a) in most cases the caption just appears in the middle of the page, not below the float. (b) some values seem to work ok, these are here, top, bottom, page, opposite (appears 2 pages later), always, force. (c) some values do not work or even give a TeX error: -- left margintext appears on the right side of the page (same as leftaligned?) -- right idem on the left side -- inleft the margintext and the caption seem to disappear completely -- inright the caption is not seen, margintext appears on the right side -- inmargin gives error undefined \doinmarginnormal -- margin gives error too many }'s (2) Second question. Is there a mechanism whereby one can force the float to at least the next page when there is no room for it below the current point on the page? This is useful for example when a figure belongs to the text of which only a few lines are on the current page. The figure is then better placed on the next page then somewhere on the current one. yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer

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\setupindenting & \chapter indention
by Tobias Burnus 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hello, I want to have: aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa bbbbbbb bbbbbbbbb That is: The second paragraph being indented. I tried: --------------<cut>--------------- \setupindenting[next,yes,big] \starttext fajkhfkldjglfd FJHDLKSGJLKDS \stoptext --------------<knip>-------------- but both paragraphs as not indented. * * * In addition, I have the problem that -------------- \chapter{foo} bar -------------- is printed as | 1 foo |bar i.e. the "1 foo" starts too far at the right * * * The first problem I also see using http://live.contextgarden.net/, the other not. (My ConTeXt is newer though, 2006.01.16 18:35). Tobias

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palatino fonts
by Hans Hagen 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hi, In a previous post, sjoerd mentioned fonts from the "tower of babel project" (russia). http://newstar.rinet.ru/downl.php?lan=en#dict There you can also download fonts, like some palatino and a cjk font. To me it looks quite illegal: the palatino variant has indeed over 2500 glyphs but also contains copyright notices (heidelberg/linotype as well as microsoft). When fonts lack glyphs one normally may make companions, but that;s not the case here: same name, probably same glyphs as in the original. i wonder why they were not yet taken off line. Stealing fonts happens, but here they didn't even bother to disguise the original name and author. Ok, I may be wrong and it may be a donation to the project, but even then it should be mentioned in the copyryright. (Somehow I'm pretty sure that the designer of the Palatino (Hermann Zapf) is not aware or this rip-off.) LInotype now ships the Palatino Nova, but that does not mean that the old one is obsolete and free. Technically you can configure the context unicode handler to take chars from multiple fonts, so my advise is to use another font or a combination of fonts. Maybe it's worth investigating which free fonts contain the glyphs you need. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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last natural table column longer
by Vit Zyka 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hello Wizards, my multi page (and multicolumn) table exceeds the last page by 2 rows. Is there a way to make last column a bit longer? Here is a minimal example: ------------------------------------------ \startbuffer[table] \bTABLE[split=yes] \dorecurse{138}{\bTR\bTD cell #1\eTD\eTR} \eTABLE \stopbuffer \starttext \startcolumns \getbuffer[table] \stopcolumns \stoptext ------------------------------------------ Thanks Vit

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Referencing an align environment
by David Arnold 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

All, I tried: \placeformula[eq:twosolve] \startformula \startalign[m=3] 3-2x&>-1 &&\qor& 3-2x&<1\\ -2x&>-4 &&& -2x&<-2\\ x&<2 &&& x&>1 \stopalign \stopformula As we see in (\in[eq;twosolve]), ... But that didn't work. Suggestions?

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Align a compound inequality
by David Arnold 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

All, I have: \placeformula[-] \startformula \startalign[m=2] 3-2x&<-1 & 3-2x&>1\\ -2x&<-4 & -2x&>-2\\ x&>2 & x&<1 \stopalign \stopformula And it works. However, I want to sqeeze the word "or" between the inequalities on the first row so that it reads: 3 - 2x < -1 or 3 - 2x > 1 How can I do this? I am not sure what m and n are meant to do with this code. Hans said n=n_of_columns and m=n_of_pairs, but I am not sure what these mean as relates to my problem above. Ideas?

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Venn diagram
by David Arnold 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

All, I have: \startMPpage %figure library name: intersection %initialize scale numeric u; 10u=3in; %ellipses path A, B; A:=fullcircle xyscaled (4u,3u); B:=A shifted (2u,0); draw A withcolor red; label.ulft(btex $A$ etex, point 3 of A) withcolor red; draw B withcolor blue; label.urt(btex $B$ etex, point 1 of B) withcolor blue; %bounding box draw bbox currentpicture enlarged (0.5u,0.5u); \stopMPpage I need an easy way of shading these areas: 1. A intersect B 2. A union B 3. A intersect (complement of B) 4. (complement of A) intersect B Thanks

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[Fwd: after=\page in natural tables]
by Vit Zyka 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Hello, this example from core-ntb.tex ------------------------------------------------ \startbuffer[table3] \bTABLE[split=yes] \bTR \bTD left \eTD\bTD right \eTD\eTR \bTR[after=\page] \bTD left \eTD\bTD right \eTD\eTR \bTR \bTD left \eTD\bTD right \eTD\eTR \eTABLE \stopbuffer \starttext \getbuffer[table3] \stoptext ----------------------------------------------- does not work. Here is a log from live-wiki: (./texweb-table3.tmp ! Use of \dododecrement doesn't match its definition. \doifnextcharelse ...token =#1\def \!!stringa {#2} \def \!!stringb {#3}\futur... \popTBL ...\intablefalse \fi \doglobal \decrement \TBLlevel \relax l.5 \eTABLE ? ! Emergency stop. Vit

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xml and buffers
by Junod Antoine 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Hello gurus, I'm a bit into trouble wih buffers and xml parsing. Here is my problem: I've got a .xhtml with the following lines: [...] <meta name="course_name" content="Génie Logiciel" /> <meta name="date" content="23 décembre 2005" /> [...] <title>Auction: document d'analyse</title> [...] I'm trying to store the content of the meta tag in a buffer, one per meta tag, (ie "Génie Logiciel" in buffer course_name, "23 décembre 2005" in buffer date) to use these buffers when I meet the title tag: \XMLifequalelse{meta}{name}{course_name} {\startbuffer[course_name]\XMLpar{meta}{content}{}\stopbuffer}{} \XMLifequalelse{meta}{name}{date} {\startbuffer[date]\XMLpar{meta}{content}{}\stopbuffer}{} \defineXMLenvironment [title] {\startstandardmakeup \getbuffer[course_name] \getbuffer[date]}{\stopstandardmakeup} But it does not print anything else than the title. Any idea? Thanks a lot for you help! -AJ

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Units -- a few things
by Ville Voipio 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

There seems to be a small glitch in m-units.tex. The unit \Bit typesets "Bit". This is wrong, as bits are always in lowercase first letter: a single bit: bit a byte: B It is also possible to use b (for bit) and Byte (for B). However, bits are always small and Bytes large. The best practice seems to be to spell bits out (bit) and use abbreviation for Bytes (B). This minimizes confusion. I fixed this problem in my ConTeXt installation by tweaking rows 664 and 666. For more discussion, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte It might be worth it to implement the octet (o), as well. It is a good unit (more precise and descriptive than byte) but the abbreviation is horrible. --- Another related thing is whether ConTeXt should implement IEC 60027-2 binary prefices (Ki, Mi, Gi, Ti). More info on this: http://www.iec.ch/zone/si/si_bytes.htm --- Well, then to a more practical thing... This is a very trivial question, but still. When writing a number and the unit, it would be nice to have automatic formatting. What I mean is that when I have a million two hundred thousand kilograms, I would like it to be typeset: 1(small space)200(small space)000(small space)kg Everything on a single row despite where it is. Now I write: 1\,200\,000\,\Kilo\Gram It would be more legible, if I could just write: \unit{1200000}{\Kilo\Gram} Taking care of all the fancy small spaces should be computer's problem. not mine... (Or does this mechanism already exist?) - Ville

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margin text headings
by Idris Samawi Hamid 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Dear consortium, In \setuptexttexts[margin] it would be nice to have an option for the margin text (used for headings here) to start from the top of the textblock, instead of the middle, something like marginposition = top, middle % middle is default \setuptexttexts[margin][][\setups{text a}][\setups{text b}][] \setuptext[marginposition=top,state=high,] As is one has to do alot of guesswork. Can this be implemented (if it is not already)? In any case, is there a better way to do this (see example file)? Best Idris =============================================================== % output=pdf interface=en %\setuppapersize [A5][A4] \newdimen\Margin \Margin=1.5cm \newdimen\MarginRaise \MarginRaise=112.6ex % guesswork \setuptexttexts[margin][][\setups{text a}][\setups{text b}][] \setuptext[style=\it,state=high] \startsetups[text a] \raise\MarginRaise\hbox{\vtop{\hsize=\Margin% \startalignment[right] Testing Knuth 2 \stopalignment }} \stopsetups \startsetups[text b] \raise\MarginRaise\hbox{\vtop{\hsize=\Margin% \startalignment[right] Testing Knuth 1 \stopalignment }} \stopsetups \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided, location={footer,middle}] \showframe \starttext \dorecurse{20}{\input knuth\par } \stoptext =============================================================== -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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\uchar and italics question
by sjoerd siebinga 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Hi all, Due to the nature of the font I am using (which has horrendous looking combining diacritics), I have to call the unicodeglyphs directly through the \uchar command. Which works fine for the regular face. But I am unable to get the italic glyphs via the same method. So {\it \uchar{1}{01}} renders the 'normal' regular glyph. Could somebody help me out? Sjoerd

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Stand alone Context editing environment
by David Arnold 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

All, At: http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm There is: http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this particular zip? Is there an editor in this zip configured and ready to go? Very curious.

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Text wrapping in SciTE
by Hooman Javidnia 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Hi, I was wondering what is the correct way of wrapping text while typing in SciTE. SciTE can wrap the text, but it is basically a virtual wrap, it is a long line tailored to the view of your editing window. On the other hand you can wrap the lines yourself by pressing enter wherever you think it is necessary. Which one of these methods is better? Or maybe there are better alternatives? Cheers, Hooman

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