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Emulating AMS stuff in ConTeXt
by Giuseppe Bilotta 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

Hello, while trying to build an AMS emulation layer on top of ConTeXt math macros, I defined (among the other) the following macros: \def\startalign{% \startformula \let\\\cr \grabuntil{stopalign}\doeqalign } \def\doeqalign#1{\eqalign{#1\cr}\stopformula} \let\stopalign\relax These allow me to write: \startalign a & = b = \\ & = c \stopalign and everything is fine. Yet I cannot do \placeformula[hook] \startalign a & = b = \\ & = c \stopalign because of expansion problems. Why? How can I define the stuff? -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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FontSite 500 CD support
by Bill McClain 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

I've had some email with Christopher League, the author of the Latex support package for the FontSite 500 CD. He is going to work on ConTeXt support in early 2003. When this is ready it will mostly supercede the procedures on my web page. Again, the urls are: http://contrapunctus.net/fs500tex/ http://www.fontsite.com/ -Bill -- Sattre Press Tales of War http://sattre-press.com/ by Lord Dunsany info(a)sattre-press.com http://tow.sattre-press.com/

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non western scripts and utf
by Hans Hagen 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

Hi, http://www.pragma-ade.com/temp/test.pdf shows how sanskrit like code will show up in context docs; i still need to get comment working (has to be utf-16) but hyperlinks and alike already work ok what would help testing this kind of things is real example text, so maybe we should start building a collection of test files (like tufte, but then in utf code) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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utf-8
by Simon Pepping 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

The new beta works fine. \unknownchar must be enclosed in braces, to prevent error messages when the unknown char is the only char in a superior or inferior. Many math symbols (unicode range 0x2200) are still missing. Would they be added like this: \definecharacter textSum {\mathematics{\Sum}} ? I will experiment somewhat with this later. Simon -- Simon Pepping email: spepping(a)scaprea.hobby.nl

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Using Fraktur (and Gothic and Calligraphic) fonts in ConTeXt
by Giuseppe Bilotta 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

Hello, I just wanted to report the conclusions I reached after the hoop-jumping I had to go through to be able to use Fraktur in ConTeXt, especially in math environments: it seems that the \frak, \goth, \cal font switches are ignored in math mode (which is somewhat ridiculous, considering that this is where they are used more often). A workaround (stolen from the old math module) is to define \def\fraktur #1{\ifmmode\@EA\text\fi{{\frak#1}}} \def\gothic #1{\ifmmode\@EA\text\fi{{\goth#1}}} \def\caligraphic#1{\ifmmode\@EA\text\fi{{\cal #1}}} and use \fraktur{a} instead of {\frak a}. This has the disadvantage that you cannot set Fraktur as the (math) font for a complex math construct. Can this be fixed, please? -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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BUG in spec-fdf
by Giuseppe Bilotta 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

Hello, I just found (rather by chance) a bug in the fdf output definitions: at the end of the file there are the lines \definespecial\dostartgraphicgroup{\pdfliteral{q}} \definespecial\dostopgraphicgroup {\pdfliteral{Q}} Since fdf specials are also used in non-PDF production mode (e.g. by dvipdfm specials) there lines should be changed into \definespecial\dostartgraphicgroup{\PDFcode{q}} \definespecial\dostopgraphicgroup {\PDFcode{Q}} -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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DocBookInContext & multi-languages (newbie)
by Gour 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

Hello list! I'm a new in ConTeXt. After few boks done in LyX (LaTeX) I decided to enhance my "publishing". Since I need to write in DocBook, I was thrilled to find DocBookInContext package which enables to map from DocBook to ConTeXt. I prepared a small article in DocBook and converted it to PDF by: texexec --pdf file (I'm running SuSE 8.0 & teTeX). The problem is that I wanted to include some Croatian national characters in the DocBook file, but they are not shown in generated file. What should I do to be able to have both English & Croatian language in ConTeXt? (In LyX, I would simply use latin-2 encoding and write English & Croatian.) Usually documents in DocBook have Unicode encoding (UTF-8). What encoding has to be defined so that conversion DocBook -> ConTeXt will work properly? I also run texexec --make --language=hr,en hr Sincerely, Gour -- Gour gour(a)mail.inet.hr Registered Linux User #278493

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Re: [NTG-context] Swedish in lang-ger.tex
by Hans Hagen 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

At 09:52 PM 12/5/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Well, in the generated text is should be "--" with a space before and >after. In >my _opinion_ the spaces should be unbreakable. i changed the --- into the german --'s Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] Swedish in lang-ger.tex
by Hans Hagen 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

At 08:57 PM 12/4/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Hans, > >Some weeks ago, before I found this discussion forum, I sent you a mail about >Swedish conventions in ConTeXt. Simce I see that no changes have been made >in "lang-ger.tex" I repeat my comments here: actually, i did change it a while ago; but it probably went unnoticed because the beta link was wrong http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/beta/cont-tmf.zip >As you can see "leftquote", "leftquotation" and "datum" ought to be changed. >Also, in the Swedish language the symbol represented by "---" doesn't exist; >we only use "-" and "--". So I guess "leftsentence", "rightsentence", etc. >should be changed too. think so, what should we do? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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utf (8)
by Hans Hagen 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

Hi, I slightly adapted utf 8 support and uploaded a newer version to http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/beta/cont-tmf.zip Also, there is some test material at http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/beta/unitest.zip Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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utf 8
by Hans Hagen 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

Hi, I'm uploading a new beta. This one has utf8 as a regime: \enableregime[utf] the xml alternative \useXMLfilter[utf] also works. Some pending issues: how to deal with the utility files and so. I'll look into that as soon as i have to deal with utf cq. hav eproper test files. You should be able to process non western scripts, but the fonts/glyphs are not yet defind (see unic-0*.tex for how we're going to deal with that). Unknown glyphs will show up as a small rule, unless you say: \chardef\utfunicodetracer=1, 2 or 3 There is also a file: http://www.pragma-ade.com/temp/unitest.pdf just to get an idea of this kind of mapping. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Swedish in lang-ger.tex
by Stefan Karlsson 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Hi Hans, Some weeks ago, before I found this discussion forum, I sent you a mail about Swedish conventions in ConTeXt. Simce I see that no changes have been made in "lang-ger.tex" I repeat my comments here: \installlanguage [\s!sv] [\c!spatiering=\v!opelkaar, \c!leftsentence=---, \c!rightsentence=---, \c!leftsubsentence=---, \c!rightsubsentence=---, % \c!leftquote=\upperleftsinglesixquote, \c!leftquote=\upperrightsingleninequote, \c!rightquote=\upperrightsingleninequote, % \c!leftquotation=\upperleftdoublesixquote, \c!leftquotation=\upperrightdoubleninequote, \c!rightquotation=\upperrightdoubleninequote, % \c!datum={\v!jaar,\ ,\v!maand,\ ,\v!dag}, \c!datum={\v!dag,\ ,\v!maand,\ ,\v!jaar}, \c!status=\v!stop] As you can see "leftquote", "leftquotation" and "datum" ought to be changed. Also, in the Swedish language the symbol represented by "---" doesn't exist; we only use "-" and "--". So I guess "leftsentence", "rightsentence", etc. should be changed too. Regards /Stefan Karlsson

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Indexing macros
by John Culleton 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

The "register" macros in Context only provide for a single level index AFAIK so I have been looking at the use of either makeindex or Xindy in a Context project. I have slightly modified the index.tex file from the Texsis distribution and renamed it indexx.tex. Instructions for use are included in the file. The command sequence is: texexec test.tex makeindex test.idx -o test.ind texexec test.tex. The test.tex file is as follows: \input indexx.tex \markindextrue \starttext Hello \page[yes] \idx{Frisbee} \idx{Saucer} \indexx{foo} \indexx{foo!bar} \page[yes] \input test.ind \stoptext The indexx.tex file can be found at: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/indexx.tex Most parties seem to prefer the more capable Xindy to the old standby makeindex. However The Xindy distribution has a program for translating makeindex raw index files to Xindy raw index files. So the indexx.tex macros can be used as a stopgap method now. I will work on another version that will emit Xindy raw files natively. Questions, comments, suggestions welcome :-) -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters Rowse Reviews Culleton Editorial Services http://wexfordpress.com

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Generating formats.
by Eduardo Cassiraga 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi: I am trying to install ConTexT system on my PC. My TeX system is MikTeX and I use Windows 2000. However it's imposible to me generate the formats. When I type the command for that the system answer to me as follow: C:\tmp>texexec --make en TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002 ! You have to increase POOLSIZE. TeX binary : pdfetex format(s) : en total run time : 0 seconds Can anybody to help me, please? Eduardo F. Cassiraga Departamento de Ingeniería Hidráulica y Medio Ambiente Universidad Politécnica de Valencia C/. Camino de Vera, s/n 46022 Valencia - SPAIN Tel: +34 963 879 613 Fax: +34 963 877 618 E-mail: efc(a)dihma.upv.es

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In-paragraph display
by Giuseppe Bilotta 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hello, I'm going to bring the discussion back to a sore point that really needs to be cleared. When dealing with displayed material (equations, itemizations, quotations etc) the following four cases are (or rather should be) different: ============================== Case 1: some text before \startdisplay displayed material \stopdisplay some text after ============================== Case 2: some text before \startdisplay displayed material \stopdisplay some text after ============================== Case 3: some text before \startdisplay displayed material \stopdisplay some text after ============================== Case 4: some text before \startdisplay displayed material \stopdisplay some text after ============================== The reason why they should be different is that (1) in case 1 the display is part of the paragraph which includes both the text before, the displayed material, and the text after (2) in case 2 the display is part of a the paragraph which begins with the displayed material and includes the text after, but not the text before (3) in case 3 the display is part of a the paragraph which begins with the displayed material and includes the text before, but not the text after (4) in case 4 the display forms a paragraph on its own Why is this important? Assume for example that the paragraphs are set to have an indent (\setupindenting[medium], for example) and that the indentnext option is set to true. In this case "some text after" would only be indented in cases (3) and (4), but not in cases (1) and (2), since in cases (3) and (4) it starts a new paragraph while in cases (1) and (2) it is part of the previous paragraph. Is it just an impression of mine, or is it true that this is not the case in ConTeXt? The behaviour in all three cases seems to be the same ... -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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Split floating table
by varheit＠gmx.de 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi, i try to typeset a very large table using the Natural Table macros. I would like to place the table as a floating object so it will get numbered and show up in the list of tables. In a recent post, the command \splitfloat was mentioned, but unfortunately, I could not find any documentation that would help me out. I tried the document below, which results in a split table, but all the rows of the table are split on their own. I am using the current beta. Any suggestions? \starttext \chapter{A big table} \splitfloat{\placetable{A big table}} { \bTABLE[split=repeat] \bTABLEhead \bTR \bTH Head1\eTH\bTH Head2\eTH \eTR \eTABLEhead \bTABLEbody \dorecurse{80}{\bTR\bTD Column1\eTD\bTD Column2\eTD\eTR} \eTABLEbody \eTABLE } \stoptext -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen!

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Re: [NTG-context] DocBookInContext & multi-languages (newbie)
by Hans Hagen 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

At 09:30 PM 12/2/2002 +0100, you wrote: >The problem is that that file doesn't contain all > 50000 characters but >only a few (basically latin1 accented characters) right, and for a start we only need to build the second vector, which i didn't -) By the way, I'm looking for a nice looking serif font, which I can use as >math font and which contains at least all MES-1, better also the MES-2 >characters (http://www.evertype.com/standards/iso10646/pdf/cwa13873.pdf) >and the default ligatures used by TeX. >So far I mainly found either WGL4 compatible fonts >(http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/opentype/appendices/wgl4.html) or >fonts which can be used for math in TeX, but not both. (At least not >within a amount of money which I can spend ;-) did you try palatino? \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,10pt] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] DocBookInContext & multi-languages (newbie)
by Hans Hagen 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

At 01:48 PM 12/3/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Hans Hagen wrote: > > did you try palatino? >You mean http://www.micropress-inc.com/fonts/pamath/pamain.htm + Palatino? >Otherwise I haven't found anything related to math and Palatino. > >Additionally, Palatino (and/or PAMath) seem to have only the basic letters >from TeX and only little more. Ah, take a look at tex live! search for tx/px fonts; they should work out of the box with the current context [concerning utf-8: i now have rather good converter running] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Some \definelayout troubles
by Rob van Swol 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi, I want to set a different layout for even and odd pages; so I use something like: \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \definelayout[odd][backspace=4.0cm] \definelayout[even][backspace=2.5cm] This works fine, except I get these extra pages again after \stopstandardmakeup, \stopfrontmatter, and \stopappendices [Note: I applied the following patch to cont-new.tex, Context ver: 2002.10.23 \appendtoks \gdef\shipout{\dowithnextbox{\deadcycles\zerocount}}% \to \everylastshipout ] Any suggestions? Regards, Rob -- Rob W. van Swol National Aerospace Laboratory NLR Tel. +31 527 248252 P.O. Box 153 Fax +31 527 248210 8300 AD Emmeloord E-Mail vanswol(a)nlr.nl The Netherlands http://www.neonet.nl/

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Sanskrit (Devanagari) in ConTeXt
by Gour 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi! I saw a PDF describing Chinese support in ConTeXt. It looks beautiful. Anyone has attempted to write Sanskrit (both western transliteration as well as Devanagari script) in ConTeXt? What is required to provide such support? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour gour(a)mail.inet.hr Registered Linux User #278493

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Re: conversie
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

At 02:31 PM 11/29/2002 +0100, you wrote: >beste hans, >bestaat er (toevallig) een tool/script voor conversie van een latex >document naar context? >dank niet dat ik weet, misschien iemand op de context lijst Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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new manual
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi, I uploaded the (preliminary) manual on color separation (+ a few ntk's): http://www.pragma-ade.com/manuals/general/msplit.pdf this morning i also uploaded a beta version that does these kind of things (although for the moment i keep some possibly dangerous optimizations in my local extension file) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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quotations
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi, Since quotations keep coming up on this list, and since i had a couple of new cd's to help me through the process of cooking up macros, i made an definable quotation macros, or more precise, something: \definedelimitedtext [quotation] [left={\symbol[leftquotation]}, right={\symbol[rightquotation]}, leftmargin=standard] \definedelimitedtext [quote][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [quotation] [location=text, left={\symbol[leftquote]}, right={\symbol[rightquote]}] and for Mr. BigFoot: \definedelimitedtext [speech][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [\v!spraak] [repeat=yes, left={\symbol[leftspeech]}, middle={\symbol[middlespeech]}, right={\symbol[rightspeech]}] Now, how do we call an tight quotation that those heavy quoting users want? \definedelimitedtext [xquotation][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [xquotation] [indentnext=no, spacebefore=nowhite] (there are a couple of more switches) this mechanism will be available in the next beta, but the re-definitions not yet (first i want to make sure that it worsk ok) one can also use this feature for things like [whatever you want to be delimited] Hans I'll look into the epigraph (module) later (never needed them so far) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] CT mirror university operational
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

At 02:50 PM 12/2/2002 +0100, you wrote: >For thos of you who didn't know: > > http://context.ct.utwente.nl > >is a mirror of context, and though we had a fire and our NOC totaly burnt >down, it is operational again. Hans could you change my entry on the >mirroring page. done. thanks! Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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CT mirror university operational
by Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

For thos of you who didn't know: http://context.ct.utwente.nl is a mirror of context, and though we had a fire and our NOC totaly burnt down, it is operational again. Hans could you change my entry on the mirroring page. Greetings Gilbert.

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