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global text color
by Eckhart Guthöhrlein 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

Hi all, I know I have seen the answer to this (probably trivial) question, but I can't find it anymore: How to set a global default color for all text in a document? Eckhart

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#'s in MPinclusions
by Emil Hedevang Lohse 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

The following code results in an error. \startMPinclusions vardef a@#(text t) = @#(t) enddef; \stopMPinclusions \starttext Hello. \stoptext ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \theMPinclusions. <to be read again> ( <argument> vardef a@##( text t) = @##(t) enddef; \startMPinclusions ...tions ;}}\writeMPgraphic {#1 }} l.3 \stopMPinclusions I know that # is a special character in TeX, but is there a way to get abound this? What I actually trying to do, is to make a diagram drawing package that I wrote for Metapost, work in ConTeXt. So I would like to include the Metapost macros once and then use them later in drawings, that is, <include the Metapost macros in one way or another> \starttext ... we now have the following commutative diagram. \startuseMPgraphic <my code for the diagram> \stopuseMPgraphic \useMPgraphic \stoptext -- Emil Hedevang Lohse <http://home.imf.au.dk/emil/> Alle spørgsmål er lige dumme. Og spørgsmålet "Kan ænder flyve?" er ikke dumt.

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interactive links with keyboard control
by Eckhart Guthöhrlein 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

Hi again, are there commands to control interaction via the keyboard? I have a field stack which can now be switched by clicking on a link, but I want to couple it to an event like, say 'key F1 pressed'. I have no idea how this could be done, so if there is no solution yet, I am grateful for hints where to start. In fact, when everything's finished, I would like to be able to control a presentation using a IR remote control via LIRC, and sending keypress events should be quite simple. Better solutions are welcome, it's just a raw idea at the moment. Btw, I'm asking many questions at present, but I promise to be modest again from next Tuesday on... Eckhart

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m-chart: bug? and questions
by Eckhart Guthöhrlein 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

I'm using dummy flow cells to have both solid and dashed connections originating from the same cell in a chart. I have noticed that having several nodes with no \name{...} defined confuses the chart macros: all connections refer to the same node. Giving arbitrary names to the dummy nodes solves the problem. Then two questions: (1) I couldn't find any setup parameters to manipulate the default font chosen for the the cells. It is by far too small (I'm preparing a screen presentation). (2) Is the option for half-grid steps requested by GB some time ago available? If so, how to use it? Eckhart

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MPinclusions for drawing commands
by Eckhart Guthöhrlein 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

In the following test file \setupcolors[state=start] \startMPinclusions drawoptions(withcolor \MPcolor{darkyellow}); \stopMPinclusions \startreusableMPgraphic{test} fill fullcircle scaled 1cm; \stopreusableMPgraphic \starttext \reuseMPgraphic{test} \stoptext I was hoping for a yellow circle, but it didn't work. I guess drawoptions are reset by beginfig? Is there a possibility to insert MP code for every figure in a document *after* every beginfig? Or how else could I set common drawoptions for all figures? Eckhart

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Slideshow
by Luis Neves 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

Hi everybody, I just started with context and I was wondering: Is it possible to set timings into a context presentation so that we end up with an automatic slideshow? As far as I could see PDF allows this as one can do it with Acrobat Writer, and perhaps this is something obvious but I could not find any reference to it in the manuals. I tried to do with a little Javascript but my rudimentary knowledge of both Javascript and context prevented the achievement of any result. Best regards, Luís Neves P.S. I just subsribed the list and I didn't receive trhe confirmation message so, until then please CC to my personal adress.

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Typesetting Russian -- lost kerning
by Victor Figurnov 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

15/01/2003 Hans Hagen wrote to Pavel Stupin about 'Typesetting Russian': PS>> I installed the files, and now I can typeset russian. PS>> That's great. HH> Without any changes? Good, so it can go into the distribution? Russification of ConTeXt has been discussed in the russian TeX newsgroup fido7.ru.tex. Here are results. 1. Alexander Bokovoy (15/01/2003) said that russification by Olga Briginets (http://trash1.hotmail.ru) -- this is a russification discussed in NTG-ConTeXt -- is slightly obsolete. He modified it, and now it conforms 'teTeX-2.0 pretest-20030107'. Modified version is available at: http://people.altlinux.ru/~ab/tex/context-russian.tar.bz2 2. Vladimir Volovich (one of the authors of the cyrillic support in LaTeX) noticed that kerning in 8-bit fonts has been lost: "in Context the support of 8-bit encodings turned out to be so bad, that kerning is completely disappeared there. LaTeX is still not so bad, this thing is implemented much more neatly there." I installed the modified russification on MiKTeX 2.2 without any problem. But the kerning between russian letters is indeed lost. :-( In the same font, kerning between latin letters is retained. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the installation instructions by Alexander Bokovoy (for teTeX 2.0 pretest (20030107)): 1. Expand russification archive to $TEXMF tree 2. texhash 3. Edit fmtutil.cnf to add 'cont-ru' and 'cont-ua' formats, similar to 'cont-en' 4. Rebuild formats. Making the pdf for the sample file: cd $TEXMF/doc/context/sample-cyrillic texexec --language=ru --pdf --format=cont-ru sample Presence of CM-Super is highly recommended. -------------------------------------------------------------------- My installation instructions for MiKTeX: 1. Expand russification archive to $TEXMF tree 2. Edit formats.ini (%TEXMF%\miktex\config\formats.ini) to add 'cont-ru' and 'cont-ua' formats, similar to 'cont-en' 3. (Optionally) In %TEXMF%\miktex\bin directory copy cont-en.exe cont-ru.exe copy cont-en.exe cont-ua.exe 4. Using "MikTeX Options" program, refresh the name database and rebuild formats. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Victor Figurnov

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\dots again
by Hraban 23 Jan '03

23 Jan '03

Ahoi Hans! While checking a book after installing the latest beta I recognized again that \dots{} does the wrong. The stops are taken from the *math* font, and that looks very ugly if there's no fitting math font for some text where I don't need any maths. (My text ist in ITC Berkeley, that has very tiny punctuations; CM or TX have rather fat dots.) I'd suggest to take the stops simply from the active text font -- or use the ellipsis character if the font has one. On the subject of spacing: The dots are too wide spread; Acrobat shows 1000 units, I'd suggest about 750 -- and about 500 before the first dot. Or did I misunderstand the whole thing, that I should use some other command for an ellipsis in text mode? Grüßlis vom Hraban! -- www.fiee.net/texnique/ www.ramm.ch/context/

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ConTeXt FAQ -- next generation?
by Hraban 23 Jan '03

23 Jan '03

Ahoi eXperts! I'd like to start another attempt for a ConTeXt-FAQ-o-matic. I'm too busy and too less able to do the whole work myself, so I'd be glad if the appropriate experts would take their part. We need... 1. a definition (Schema?) for the XML source 2. conversion patterns for ConTeXt (environment) and XHTML (XSLT?) 3. a web surface (with search engine, web edit form etc.) 4. last not least lots of entries I'd try to coordinate the whole project, will host the site, could care for 3 and help with the other, but first someone must take responsibility for 1 and 2. Any volunteers? Some requirements of the definition (1): - one XML file can contain all entries - an other file will contain redundant information like authors - each entry may contain several languages (I'd like to keep the door open for partly translations; I imagine that a web user sees his favourite language if available) - entry IDs must be in some way, that user contributions (files with several entries or corrections) can join in. - markup possibilities like WikiWeb (emphasis, enumeration, easy table, link) - proper code markup (e.g. for TeX, ConTeXt, shell, perl code) - additional (normally invisible) keywords for search engine (web) or index (TeX) - some flexible subject/subsubject structure - some versioning (also like WikiWeb: each user may change every entry, but an admin must be able to undo it) - someone suggested to use a DocBook subset; don't know if that's possible Requirement of the conversion (2): - easily adaptable to a new layout (web or print) - additional software must be open source and run on Debian Linux (SPARC) (web server) and MacOS X (my machine) Is anything of the above impossible? I suppose (1) will result in something like cookbook soups recipe id=hr-1 language lang=en original=yes title /title keywords /keywords ingredients item /item item /item /ingredients preparation much text with markup and code snippets /preparation /language language lang=de original=no title /title /language /recipe /soups desserts /desserts /cookbook Greets hoping for feedback and helping hands: Hraban. -- www.fiee.net/texnique/ www.ramm.ch/context/

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Link dest in same document
by Patrick Gundlach 23 Jan '03

23 Jan '03

Hello out there, how do I let the destination of a hyperlink do not affect the zoom level? (I.E. not /Fit but /XYZ in destination) Patrick -- Mehr Buchstaben - mehr Spass

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Underlining URLs
by Patrick Gundlach 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Hello ConTeXt users out there, I'd like to underline a hyperlink to an url (with \goto), so that it is visible while reading with the acrobat reader but not visible when printed. The default appearance is boldface. There are a lot of examples of these kind of hyperlinks out there. For example the xml spec (iirc the url is http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-xml-20001006.pdf) Does anybody know how to accomplish this? Patrick

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frame madness
by Hans van der Meer 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Hi Hans, I got a strange result with framing, where changing the framecolor changes the alignment of the framed block on the line. Isn't this a strange effect? Here is the code: % USING THE GREEN PRESENTATION STYLE \Subject{test} % THIS ONE IS TYPESET CENTERED ON THE LINE \startframedtext[middle]ABC\stopframedtext % THIS ONE IS TYPESET TO THE LEFT WITH RED FRAME \startframedtext[middle,framecolor=red]ABC\stopframedtext \stoptext Hans van der Meer

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Re: \startfiguretext problem
by Hans Hagen 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

At 11:09 AM 1/22/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Hans, > >Again thanks for all your advice. I am still stuck. I have just sent the >message below to the list to see if someone out there has installed the >beta on a Mac and can offer help. Below is what I sent. the startfigure problem is solved in the next release, it had to do with added grouping in floats (needed for some fancy things); there will be more side float placement options, including half margin-text things, alignment, etc, also, backgrounds behind running text (the definetextbackground thing) will work in normal text as well as floats, tables and alike. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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installing ConTeXt beta on MacG4
by Charles Doherty 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Dear All, Expecially those who use a Mac G4 OSX 10.2.3 and who have installed teTeX using Gerben's installer. Following a recent upgrade using Gerben's installer the command \startfiguretext no longer worked correctly. The console readout was as follows: TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002 executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : Silly output : pdftex interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10a-devel-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.8) entering extended mode (./Silly.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/pdftex/config/pdftex. cfg): invalid line in config file: `pdf_minorversion 4' } ConTeXt ver: 2002.12.20 fmt: 2003.1.4 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : Silly.top loaded (./Silly.top specials : loading definition file tpd (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex specials : loading definition file fdf (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex <unprotect 3> <unprotect 4> system (E-TEX) : [line 1783] \ifcsname <unprotect 5> <protect 5> <protect 4> <protect 3>) specials : fdf loaded <unprotect 3> <protect 3>) specials : fdf,tpd loaded ) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map systems : begin file Silly at line 1 <./DurrowClon.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./DurrowClon.pdf loaded from figurefile itself ! Missing } inserted. <inserted text> } <to be read again> \endgroup l.8 ...lfigure[DurrowClon][width=.5\makeupwidth] } ? I have been in contact with Hans who was very patient and suggested I install the recent beta. I have had no success although I have learned a lot about Terminal in the process. I recently found help on installing ConTeXt on : http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/ I modified his instructions to suit (as I thought) my machine but I have still not been successful. Below is what I used: cd 'Download Folder' sudo mv cont-tmf.zip /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/* sudo unzip -a -L -o cont-tmf.zip # overwrites existing files! # SuSE wants the executables here... # Note: in SuSE 7.2 the files were placed in .../i386- # linux-glibc/ # As of SuSE 8.1, they are in .../i386-linux-libc6/ # # Also in 8.1, the links seemed incorrect to me, so # I have added # a few new steps to try to correct them. # # C.D. I have changed the paths below to follow the # structure on my machine. sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texexec sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texshow sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texutil sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texfont sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texfind sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/fdf2tan sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempy sudo rm /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/mptopdf sudo cp context/perltk/texexec.pl /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texexec sudo cp context/perltk/texshow.pl /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texshow sudo cp context/perltk/texutil.pl /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texutil sudo cp context/perltk/texfont.pl /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texfont sudo cp context/perltk/texfind.pl /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texfind sudo cp context/perltk/fdf2tan.pl /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/fdf2tan sudo cp context/perltk/makempy.pl /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempy sudo cp context/perltk/mptopdf.pl /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/mptopdf sudo chmod +x /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texexec sudo chmod +x /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texshow sudo chmod +x /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texutil sudo chmod +x /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texfont sudo chmod +x /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texfind sudo chmod +x /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/fdf2tan sudo chmod +x /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempy sudo chmod +x /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/mptopdf # Edit texexec.ini afterwards? sudo cp /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/context/config/texexec.rme /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/context/config/texexec.ini # Edit cont-sys.tex afterwards? sudo cp /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex sudo texhash sudo texexec --make --alone en nl # en = english nl = # dutch sudo texhash exit # from "su root" I would be most grateful if someone could send me the instructions or overwrite the above to allow me to install the latest ConTeXt beta. Thank you, Charlie ************** Charles Doherty, Department of Early Irish History, University College Dublin, Belfield, Dublin 4 Ireland Telephone +353 1 7168381

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no colors in pdf-output
by alkauffm＠rz.uni-potsdam.de 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Hi all, if I put \setupoutput[pdf] \setupcolors[state=start] \setupcolor[rgb] \starttext \color[red]{asdf} \stoptext I get the text in the pdf-file without any color. Here is an extract from the log-file: This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2c 7.3.7x) (format=cont-en 2002.12.23) 21 JAN 2003 11:35 entering extended mode \write18 enabled. ... color : system rgb is global activated ... Has anyone a hint? With many thanks in advance Albrecht

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marking and nup
by mickle＠escape.com 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

I am trying to setup a number of small pages (A8 size) to print on one letter size page, and I have been unable to determine how to accomplish my aim of seeing/printing crop marks, but not seeing/printing page numbers. I can't find the answer in the manuals, and I have failed in my attempts to manipulate \setuplayout and \setuppagenumbering successfully. Maybe someone can point the way to the solution... Following is my file: %output=pdftex \setuppapersize[A8,landscape][letter] \setupbodyfont[9pt] \setuppagenumbering[state=stop] \setuplayout[topspace=2cm,location=middle,nx=2,ny=4,marking=on] \starttext {\hbox {\setupframed [align=middle,top=\vfill,bottom=\vfill, offset=overlay,frame=off]% \setupinterlinespace[height=.45,depth=.18,top=1.0,bottom=0.4,line=2.4ex] \setupunderbar[bottomoffset=.75ex] \framed {a few lines of text}}} \stoptext What I would like to obtain is something like: | | | | _ _ _ _ text text _ _ _ _ | | | | | | | | _ _ _ _ text text _ _ _ _ | | | | | | | | _ _ _ _ text text _ _ _ _ | | | | etc. What would also work would be: | | | _ _ _ _ text text _ | _ | _ | _ | | | text text _ | _ | _ | _ | | | etc. What I am getting, which doesn't work is: 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 _ _ _ _ text text 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 _ _ _ _ 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 text text etc. I can't get crop marks without numbers, sorry if the answer is obvious, but any help will be appreciated. pm

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Simple? PDF question
by Slawek Zak 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

I wonder if it's possible with PDFTex to obtain effect of document scrolling on every mouse click. I often find such mode in commercial documentation and it's really convenient. When it's enabled in PDF, the cursor changes into a hand with black arrow pointing downwards. I tried the PDFspec as well as the Acrobat JS guide, but cannot find anything similar. Ideas? :) Thanks, /S

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by Radim Uchac 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

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Problem on making mptopdf format file
by Zhenchuan Yang 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

Dear all, I am using ConTeXt under MikTeX 2.2 , but when I used "texexec --make" to make format file, I got the following error message. Could anyone give me some advice to fix it? Thanks in advance. --------------------- loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (C:\CTeX\texmf\tex\context\base\supp-mpe.tex loading : MetaPost Special Extensions ! Undefined control sequence. l.537 \appendtoks ? ! Undefined control sequence. l.541 \appendtoks ? ! Missing $ inserted. <inserted text> $ <to be read again> \to l.546 \to \MPstopresources ? ! Missing { inserted. <to be read again> \par l.547 ? ) Runaway text? \par \def \invokeMPshadespecial {\doifdefined {mps:Sh:\currentMPspec ! File ended while scanning text of \MPstopresources. <inserted text> } l.87 \input supp-mpe \MPcmykcolorstrue \MPspotcolorstrue .... --------------------------------------------------- Regards, Zhenchuan Yang,Mr. Instiute of Microelectronics Peking University Email:zcyang@vmails.net ___________________ 22:51:51 2003-01-21 -------------------

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ConTeXt and spell checkers?
by mari.voipio＠iki.fi 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

(Happy New Year 2003!) What are my options when I want to spell check my ConTeXt file? I only need American English (or "technical English" or "computer English") and the main idea is to check that I really use the American spelling for all words. I'm mainly using WindowsNT+GNUEmacs (from the TeXLive CD)+TeXLive 7, I also have access to the combination WinNT+WinEdt+TeXLive, but I prefer Emacs. I cannot be creative when writing scripts (=no programming skills), but I can follow a pattern for example when adding things to my .emacs file. And I will be installing all the systems with the English spell checker, so easy installation is not necessary as long as the instructions actually work. If there are free or cheap programs that spellcheck postscript or pdf files, that would work as well - i.e. I just need to check my file at *some* stage of the project, before it is finalized and copied. Regards, Mari Voipio

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Re: Re: IRC ConTeXt Channel
by Lazycode 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

> >Hans Hagen, > > As a main author of ConTeXt, can you give/get us the right > > to use the channel name "#context", or would you prefer us > > to create it under something else? > > go ahead and use the name #context #context has been registered on irc.freenode.net For those new to IRC Windows users: mIRC Linux users: irssi, xchat --tk

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Release naming
by Marko Schütz 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

I suggest to name releases differently: currently the most recent release is named cont-tfm.zip. Since I plan to make a NetBSD package for ConTeXt, I would very much like to have some release information in the name of the .zip-file: the release date or some other release numbers would be fine. This would also make it much more convenient to automatically check whether an installed version is the most recent version. Marko

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Interaction used in FLOWchart which is typeset with the \placefigure mechanism
by Willi Egger 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

Hi Hans, I got a couple of FLOWcharts, which are typeset with the \placefigure mechanism. The charts as such come out nicely as expected. However the charts also contain links to other parts of the document (\goto{text}[ref.]). - After placement of the charts there are still interactive spots, but these hot spots do not correspond with the text they belong to. Is it that I ask the impossible i.e. that there can't be interaction once the \placefigure mechanism is used or is there a similar problem as with the \placeformula (beforeyesterdays thread)? Thanks for looking into it. Willli

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Re: IRC ConTeXt Channel
by Lazycode 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

Hello, Berend de Boer, irc.freenode.net sounds good. Being able to "register" the channel is also a bonus. Last I checked (10:48 AM at -7 GMT time), the channel #context has _not_ been registered yet. :-) My main concern (and thus my hesistation), is whether it would be a violation of trademark to use "context" as the channel name. Perhaps we should use something like "context-unofficial" other suggestions/opinions? Or am I just being paranoid here since it's just a channel name, and it's running on a non-profit server. Hans Hagen, As a main author of ConTeXt, can you give/get us the right to use the channel name "#context", or would you prefer us to create it under something else? Thanks in advance, --tk

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Re: Conference Fee Sponsorship
by Hans Hagen 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

At 06:14 PM 1/20/2003 -0800, you wrote: >the money pays for the facilities. They don't make money on these >classes. hm, 20 * 400 = quite some money for a room that tug got for free -) >hm... this is the kind of p... news I don't know much about. >Everyone wants to make a fast buck/euro it seems. >Why they are so greedy is beyond me. Shall I write to the Lithuanian >group and ask them to make a donation? waste of energy, better go for the publishers who sell books; since so many tex users use / combine tex with things like perl and so ... do you know someone inside O'Reilly ? > > no, it's in the intermediate hands (mac millan and so; don't know them > that > > good, but they seem to be real large) > > really.... can't we get a website up to name names of >those able to donate? don't over estimate me, i have no contacts over there, (small company, few customers), you need people from the beginning of tex and/or publishing houses (they know where they go to) [maybe nelson know, since he knows everything related to tex] >The western and indian clocks don't seem to synchronize very well. ha, a few month ago i saw something on television: indian companies acting for usa companies, things like phoning people who don't pay their bills, they are masters in pretending to phone from texas (they also showed how they got classes in english, local history, texan accent, etc); so: they can sync -) serve the community better. I just can't seem to get anyone interested >in doing the sponsorhsip and website work. :-( Patricia promissed to do it, didn't she? Actually, the office should do it. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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