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Three basic questions on alignment
by Steffen Wolfrum 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

May I add something to the previous "Alignment" thread? I have 3 cases where the usual command "align=left|right|... doesn't work: 1) \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location={header,inmargin}] The page number is aligned left on a right page and vice versa. How can I change this to align left on left pages and right on right pages? (So the page number doesn't rag when flipping from page 1 to 100) 2) \setupheader[style=\MyStyle] \setupheadertexts[section][][][chapter] The chapter title behaves like the pagenumber. How can I change the alignment from inner to outer here? 3) \setupfootnotedefinition[location=inleft] The footnote's numbers here are aligned left, both on the left and the right page. What would be the command to align them right, with a constant distant to the note's text? In all cases I couldn't use align=left|right|..., so I guess there must be the same other syntax suitable for all three? Does anybody has an idea? Grazie, Steffen

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Pagebreaks
by Thomas A.Schmitz 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Dear colisters, is there a way to tel Context to be dumb about pagebreaks? I mean to say "fill every page with the exact same number of lines, no matter what, regardless of clubs, widows, women and children"? Here's my setup: \setuplayout[lines=17,footer=0.7cm] \starttext \clubpenalty=0 \widowpenalty=0 Nevertheless, some pages are 1 or even three lines shorter than the rest (there are no tables, floats, pictures etc.). Can this be prevented? Thanks Thomas

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Support bei Einstieg in ConText
by ml-context＠dr-kopp.com 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Nach langem Winword-Leiden habe ich mich nun entschlossen für längere Texte auf ConTeXt umzusteigen. Aus Zeitgründen überlege ich, mir für den Umstieg Unterstützung zu leisten. Bevor ich bei uns an der FH Studenten dafür anspreche, versuche ich es hier über das Forum. Wer ist interessiert, gegen finanzielle Unterstützung bei folgenden Aufgaben zu leisten? - Unterstützung bei der Einrichtung einer TeX/ConTeXt-Umgebung - Beraten beim Layout für ein längeres Dokument - Bestehende Winword-Texte Schulungsunterlagen konvertieren und formatieren - Evtl. beraten bei Auswahl einer Digitaldruckerei Gruß Jörg

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Re: Fwd: [NTG-context] Re: Which Beta Version ?
by Steffen Wolfrum 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

>The following message was sent by Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> on Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:32:27 +0200. > >> Hi, >> >> > But in which file is a note which version this beta actually is - >> > in order to know before installing that it is the recent one? >> >> in context.tex: >> \def\contextversion{2003.9.24} >> >> Patrick >> -- >> I really should post my ConTeXt-install-o-matic Hmm, looking at this gives me \contextversion{2003.9.25}. Hans's website offers > ConTeXt Beta Version > size: 2015146 > date: 2003.9.24.19.0 Can I be sure now to have the current version? Or even a super-current version... Steffen (P.S. I asked cause my modem is to slow for downloading wrong versions)

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Re: Support ... (was: Support bei Einstieg in ConText)
by Steffen Wolfrum 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

>The following message was sent by Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> on Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:32:02 +0200. > >> Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm(a)estfiles.de> writes: >> >> Hi, >> >> > Gibt es etwa B¸cher zum Thema ConTeXt? >> >> come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. >> Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the >> same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, >> too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite >> for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get >> completely bored. So I'd suggest: >> >> \if\language\en\postonthismailinglist=1 >> \else >> \dontexpand & \keepitprivate >> \bye >> \fi >> >> Patrick >> -- >> You are your own rainbow! Hi Patrick, Somehow I really felt like walking on thin ice when I wrote the email you mention. Well, I knew it will be difficult to serve the different aims of communication: - politeness and - political correctness I asked some friends, and we discussed on this topic, trying to find a suitable way, to get the message transferred, and not to hurt anybodies feelings - as the later is very quickly done, and it's a pity, cause often quite unnecessary. So finally, after carefully looking at the pro and cons, I decided to write a bi-lingual answer, exactly one sentence each: > Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? > (Did you ment editing books *on* ConTeXt?) Sure, I have to admit that I used brackets for the second sentence. Btw.: Why didn't you quote that second sentence? So it might have given you the feeling that I made a *main* answer and a less important. But my intention was only to stay in the logical structure of the mail I was answering to: - Jörg once started a threat in German - ok, as you told him this was an initial mistake. - Willi (a typical multilingual Dutch) also answered in German So I wrote my contribution also in the main language of this thread, AND, to stay in the rules of the mailing list, I translated it, as best as I could, into a kind of international English. Obviously my mistake were the brackets. I knew I am walking on thin ice ... and so I forgot to look on my orthography carefully. Thank you Patrick for pointing me to that. Steffen P.S. Who got bored?

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Re: Fwd: [NTG-context] Re: Which Beta Version ?
by Steffen Wolfrum 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

>The following message was sent by Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> on Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:32:27 +0200. > >> Hi, >> >> > But in which file is a note which version this beta actually is - >> > in order to know before installing that it is the recent one? >> >> in context.tex: >> \def\contextversion{2003.9.24} >> >> Patrick >> -- >> I really should post my ConTeXt-install-o-matic Hmm, looking at this gives me \contextversion{2003.9.25}. Hans's website offers > ConTeXt Beta Version > size: 2015146 > date: 2003.9.24.19.0 Can I be sure now to have the current version? Or even a super-current version... Steffen (P.S. I asked cause my modem is to slow for downloading wrong versions)

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Re: Support ... (was: Support bei Einstieg in ConText)
by Steffen Wolfrum 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

>The following message was sent by Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> on Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:32:02 +0200. > >> Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm(a)estfiles.de> writes: >> >> Hi, >> >> > Gibt es etwa B¸cher zum Thema ConTeXt? >> >> come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. >> Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the >> same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, >> too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite >> for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get >> completely bored. So I'd suggest: >> >> \if\language\en\postonthismailinglist=1 >> \else >> \dontexpand & \keepitprivate >> \bye >> \fi >> >> Patrick >> -- >> You are your own rainbow! Hi Patrick, Somehow I really felt like walking on thin ice when I wrote the email you mention. Well, I knew it will be difficult to serve the different aims of communication: - politeness and - political correctness I asked some friends, and we discussed on this topic, trying to find a suitable way, to get the message transferred, and not to hurt anybodies feelings - as the later is very quickly done, and it's a pity, cause often quite unnecessary. So finally, after carefully looking at the pro and cons, I decided to write a bi-lingual answer, exactly one sentence each: > Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? > (Did you ment editing books *on* ConTeXt?) Sure, I have to admit that I used brackets for the second sentence. Btw.: Why didn't you quote that second sentence? So it might have given you the feeling that I made a *main* answer and a less important. But my intention was only to stay in the logical structure of the mail I was answering to: - Jörg once started a threat in German - ok, as you told him this was an initial mistake. - Willi (a typical multilingual Dutch) also answered in German So I wrote my contribution also in the main language of this thread, AND, to stay in the rules of the mailing list, I translated it, as best as I could, into a kind of international English. Obviously my mistake were the brackets. I knew I am walking on thin ice ... and so I forgot to look on my orthography carefully. Thank you Patrick for pointing me to that. Steffen P.S. Who got bored?

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substitute for hangafter
by John Culleton 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

I have a classic \hangafter situation in a bibliography. However this TeX primitive seems to be crippled in Context. What should I use instead? -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com

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Which Beta Version ?
by Steffen Wolfrum 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

> or in the beta i just posted: > > ... > > Hans Well, I do have a folder on my desktop that is a lately downloaded beta: cont-tmf.zip But in which file is a note which version this beta actually is - in order to know before installing that it is the recent one? Lost in the versions, Steffen

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Presentationstep in pre-fuzzy
by Shivkumar Chandrasekaran 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Hi, I have tried every combination of presentationstep and the NextStep button in pre-fuzzy presentation style, and nothing seems to work. I have the latest (ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2003.9.26 int: english mes: english) running on Mac OS X (10.2.8) with Gierben Wierda's teTex distribution. Can some one help me get presentationstep working in pre-fuzzy? Thanks, --shiv--

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Please: \adaptlayout[*here*][height=...] needed!
by Steffen Wolfrum 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Hi, I really need a way to enlarge some certain pages. Because the pagenumbering is not fixed yet I cannot use \adaptlayout[71,82][...] in the preamble. What's the command to place \adaptlayout (or something similar) right at that position in the text where the page needs to be larger? Something like \enlargethispage{15pt}. Again, thank you for your help, Steffen

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\setupblock[name][file=name]
by Bernd Militzer 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Hi, the example \setupblock[homework][file=student] that Hans describes in his docu does not work for me! Help needed! Thanks in advance Bernd

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Re: [pdftex] Including \textcolor in metapost in pdf
by Hans Hagen 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

At 18:40 26/09/2003 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: >I would like to include colored text in metapost, but dvitomp does not >manage color. > >I saw solutions using ConTexT --- but I do not know ConTexT (not this >year, maybe next year). I use only the mptopdf macros from ConTexT >(loaded automatically by the pdfdriver). > >Do people out ther know how to do that ? > >(btw, my metapost is something like >label(btex The answer is \textcolor{\teacheronly}{42} etex,(0,0)); > >However, the color specification is in the dvi used as an intermediate >format by mpost, just the dvi -> MP extraction does not work good. > >Remark: there seems to exist a patch on a spanish speaking page, but >this is a patch in C, not web. The following code can give you a clue on how to do this; keep in mind that specials (used to switch color) get lost in mp! \starttext \setupcolors[state=start] \startMPpage draw image ( draw btex The answer is etex ; draw btex { }42 etex shifted (xpart lrcorner currentpicture,0) withcolor red ; ) ; \stopMPpage \stoptext or if you need more of that: \starttext \setupcolors[state=start] \startMPpage def append expr txt = draw btex \strut{ }\strut etex shifted (xpart lrcorner currentpicture,0) ; draw txt shifted (xpart lrcorner currentpicture,0) enddef ; draw image ( draw btex The answer is etex ; append btex 42 etex withcolor red ; ) ; \stopMPpage \stoptext (the mp code should work with any-mp/tex) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText
by ml-context＠dr-kopp.com 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

I try it again in english: I stopped a long suffer with Winword - and want to write/print longer documents with Context now. Since I don\'t have enough time do learn Context properly at this moment - but need some documents printed for students I ask you for some payed support: - Install a Context Environment - tips for layouting my documents - converting some of my existing winword-documents to context (I think there will be a lot of handwork for you) - tips and suggestions: \"digital-printer-company\" (Digitaldruck-Firma) and how to work together with them. I am german and have to use \"deutsche Umlaute\" - therefore I think it will be the best to get support from a german speaking person. > [for those who are interested: The rest of the original posting was > about support request for layout, converting documents, etc.] > Patrick Please excuse me, Patrick. It\'s my first time in a mailing-list ... and I made another mistake: I\'ve send my question twice. So, please be patient with me. I promise less mistakes :-) best regards Jörg mailto: ml-context(a)dr-kopp.com

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Support bei Einstieg in ConText
by ml-context＠dr-kopp.com 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Nach langem Winword-Leiden habe ich mich nun entschlossen für längere Texte auf ConTeXt umzusteigen. Aus Zeitgründen überlege ich, mir für den Umstieg Unterstützung zu leisten. Bevor ich bei uns an der FH Studenten dafür anspreche, versuche ich es hier über das Forum. Wer ist interessiert, gegen finanzielle Unterstützung bei folgenden Aufgaben zu leisten? - Unterstützung bei der Einrichtung einer TeX/ConTeXt-Umgebung - Beraten beim Layout für ein längeres Dokument - Bestehende Winword-Texte Schulungsunterlagen konvertieren und formatieren - Evtl. beraten bei Auswahl einer Digitaldruckerei Gruß Jörg

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penalties
by Hans Hagen 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Hi, There have been some requeste / demands / cries for more control over penalties lately. Since i needed something myself, i've implemented a mechanism for controling this. For the moment only at the outer level, but i'll add more hooks later. I have uploaded a beta that implements setups (well, this was already there, occasionallly even broken, but let's consider it public now). % output=pdftex interface=en \startsetups [something] \widowpenalty \maxdimen \clubpenalty \maxdimen \brokenpenalty\maxdimen \parfillskip \rapfillskip \stopsetups \startsetups [something] \setups[reset] \setpenalties\widowpenalties2\maxdimen \setpenalties\clubpenalties 2\maxdimen \brokenpenalty \maxdimen \stopsetups \starttext \setuplayout[lines=7,grid=yes,setups=something] \showgrid \nohyphens \dorecurse{2}{\input ward \endgraf} \page \stoptext The source-lovers may taker a look in cors-spa.tex and search for \startsetups; there they will see the two defaults, as well as that they may notice that the setups may depend on the grid being active. I'm not yet sure if i keep it that way. Now, the next thing is to decide how to deal with all those penalties; i can imagine that we collect interesting collections of penalties and so. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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How \adaptlayout[*here*][height=+.5cm] ?
by Steffen Wolfrum 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Hi, is there a way to achieve \adaptlayout[*thispage*][height=+.5cm]? Maybe a kind of \adaptlayout[\getvalue{\pagenumber}][height=+.5cm] ? (Sorry, I am not so familiar with TeX commands...) Again, thank you for your help, Steffen

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strange tabulate
by Patrick Gundlach 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Dear ConTeXt users, I have a question (well, it was not really my question in the beginning, but I could not find any answers). The first tabulate gives me rules, the second does not. Which would not harm if this is documented. But in the MAPS article mentioned recently and in the up-to-date the examples clearly show that \HL should give me a horizontal line. What is going on? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \starttext \starttabulate[|l|p|] \HR \NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR \HR \NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR \HR \NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR \HR \stoptabulate \starttabulate[|l|p|] \HL \NC small \NC They say, small is beautiful. \NC \NR \HL \NC medium \NC It seems that the medium is the message. \NC \NR \HL \NC large \NC Large T||shirts are always sold out. \NC \NR \HL \stoptabulate \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Patrick -- nothing here

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What about \framed[align=outer] ?
by Steffen Wolfrum 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi, does anybody know a way to achieve something like \framed[align=outer] or \framed[align=inner] ? I would be very happy of this is possible! Steffen

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Editor for ConTeXt ?...
by ^Nitram^ 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi, Anybody know about any editor with ConTeXt support ?... For windows unfortunately... TeXnicCenter looks good, but there is support only for LaTeX... -- Best regards Martin

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block question
by Patrick Gundlach 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi ConTeXt users, I have a question concerning blocks: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% hello.tex %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \beginhiho Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Donec hendrerit tempor tellus. Donec pretium posuere tellus. Proin quam nisl, tincidunt et, mattis eget, convallis nec, purus. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Nulla posuere. Donec vitae dolor. Nullam tristique diam non turpis. Cras placerat accumsan nulla. Nullam rutrum. Nam vestibulum accumsan nisl. \endhiho %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% test.tex %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \starttext \defineblock [hiho] \setupblock [hiho] [file=hello] Test \useblocks[hiho] \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% gives no sensible output (only "Test"). What am I doing wrong? Patrick -- You are your own rainbow!

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Re: [NTG-context] \let \def \relax ?
by Giuseppe Bilotta 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Thursday, September 25, 2003 Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > for reasons of consistency I'd like to define a kind of master-line. > So I have everywhere the same proportions even when changing this master value. > My idea was > \def\MyGrid{15pt} > and to use it for example like > width=1.5\MyGrid > But this doesn't work (error massage mentions problem with units). > What is the right syntax for definitions like this? \newdimen\MyGrid MyGrid=15pt -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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\let \def \relax ?
by Steffen Wolfrum 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi, for reasons of consistency I'd like to define a kind of master-line. So I have everywhere the same proportions even when changing this master value. My idea was \def\MyGrid{15pt} and to use it for example like width=1.5\MyGrid But this doesn't work (error massage mentions problem with units). What is the right syntax for definitions like this? Steffen P.S. I'd like to use it in ConTeXt, but I guess this way of defining is pure TeX, right?

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Hans, why don't you...
by Pawel Jackowski na Onet 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi Hans! I found the following XML tabulate environment implementation in xcont-ml.tex file: ... \defineXMLsingular [context:tcell] [align=] {\appendtoks|\to\XMLtabtoks \processaction [\XMLop{align}] [left=>\appendtoks l\to\XMLtabtoks, right=>\appendtoks r\to\XMLtabtoks, center=>\appendtoks c\to\XMLtabtoks, middle=>\appendtoks c\to\XMLtabtoks]} ... How about para=>\appendtoks p\to\XMLtabtoks It makes it a little bit more flexible. Is there any reason You didn't add 'p' template token to the \processaction list? Regards, Pawe/l

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ref: \defineenumeration
by Willi Egger 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hans, thanks for the updated version. It works no perfectly! Willi

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