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Re: Again: "hanging" for a lot of paragraphs?
by Steffen Wolfrum 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

"a secret feature" - great! So, sometimes it really is worthwhile to ask the same question twice :o) Thank you very much Hans Steffen By the way: Any news from the placefigure-cookery? Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > At 21:55 18/02/2004, you wrote: > >Hi friends, > > > >there are for sure more sophisticated and more urgent problems, > >but my question to me is really a big problem. > > > >Isn't there anybody that knows a command or a work-around that could help? > > Hm, for some time there is a secret feature in cont-new.tex which i still > have to finish: > > \starttext > > \start > \setupparagraphintro[reset,first][\hangafter-2 \hangindent2em FIRST] > \input ward \blank \input ward \blank > \input ward \blank \input ward \blank > \stop > > \page > > \start > \setupparagraphintro[reset,next][\hangafter-2 \hangindent2em NEXT] > \input ward \blank \input ward \blank > \input ward \blank \input ward \blank > \stop > > \page > > \start > \setupparagraphintro[reset,each][\hangafter-2 \hangindent2em EACH] > \input ward \blank \input ward \blank > \input ward \blank \input ward \blank > \stop > > \stoptext > > The next option only works when you have the following patch in > cont-new.tex (Search for original): > > \def\dosetupparagraphintro[#1][#2]% > {\processallactionsinset > [#1] > [ \v!reset=>\global\chardef\everyparagraphintro\zerocount > \global\everyfirstparagraphintro\emptytoks > \global\everynextparagraphintro \emptytoks, > \v!eerste=>\global\chardef\everyparagraphintro\plusone > \doglobal\appendtoks#2\to\everyfirstparagraphintro, > \v!volgende=>\ifcase\everyparagraphintro\global\chardef\everyparagraphintro\plusone\fi > \doglobal\appendtoks#2\to\everynextparagraphintro, > \v!elk=>\ifcase\everyparagraphintro\global\chardef\everyparagraphintro\plustwo\fi > \doglobal\appendtoks#2\to\everyfirstparagraphintro > \doglobal\appendtoks#2\to\everynextparagraphintro]} > > > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

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strange dependency between cbox and whitespace?
by Stefan Wachter 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hi all! I came across the following behaviour: cboxes seem to suppress white space in certain conditions. In the following example there is no whitespace output between paragraph no. 2 und 3. Yet, if I change \setupwhitespace to 'none' or if I do not enclose the paragraphs in cboxes then the whitespaces between the paragraphs appear as expected. Does anyone know a workaround for this 'strange' behaviour of cboxes? Thanks for your attention, --Stefan \setupoutput[pdftex] \setupinteraction[openaction={firstpage,FitHeight},state=start] \setupwhitespace[small] \setupblank[100pt] \def\Para#1{\cbox{#1 \dorecurse{10}{this is some paragraph text}}\par} \starttext \Para{1} \blank[big] \Para{2} \blank[medium] \Para{3} \blank[small] \Para{4} \stoptext

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aligned equation numbers in nath
by David Munger 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hi Giuseppe, I know it's still work in progress, but could you suggest me some workaround in order to number individual aligned equations in nath? Maybe some \label command that would work like this way: \[ \startalign x^2 + y^2 &= a^2 \\ \label[eq:bogus] a^2 &= R^2 \stopalign \] In \in{equation}[eq:bogus], blah blah No matter wether the other aligned equations are numbered or not. All I wish is to be able to refer to a single equation. Or maybe there is a way to set a kind of anchor? \[ x^2 + y^2 \setanchor= a^2 \] \placeformula[eq:bogus] \[ a^2 \getanchor= R^2 \] so that both equal signs be aligned. Something like this would be very nice. Thanks in advance, David

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blank page in doublesided mode
by Alan Bowen 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

In doublesided mode ConTeXt seems to insert a blank page at the end of a document when there is an odd number of printed pages. I have checked the English documentation and so far I have only found out how to force a page in order to produce an even paged document. I have yet to come across anything that seems to show how to stop ConTeXt from adding a blank page. Any pointers will be very gratefully received. Alan

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bfmath in nath
by David Munger 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

Hello, The following outputs a nice bold displayed omega (the first one), and a thin normal inline one (the second one): \usemodule [nath] \setupbodyfont [12pt] \definebodyfont [12pt] [mm] [mibf=cmmib10 sa 1] \starttext \[\bfmath \omega\] $\bfmath \omega$ \stoptext Note that replacing nath with amsl in \usemodule[nath] results in two bold omegas, so the problem has to be in t-nath.tex. Btw, this nath module is very useful to me. If I'd be able to do some debugging into it, I sure would. Could you please point me to some ConTeXt hacking references? Thanks in advance, David

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How to setup german documents?
by Stefan Wachter 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

Hi all! I have a very basic question which occupies me for more than a week now: How to setup documents for german language properly, such that: 1. the used input encoding is ISO-8859-1, 2. german special character are available, and 3. german hyphenation patterns are used. The setup shown below does not work: TeX is not able to hyphenate "Änderungsabnahme" and the \quotedblbase symbol is broader than its counterpart the \quotedblleft symbol. Thanks for your attention and help, --Stefan \setupoutput[pdftex] \enableregime[il1] \usetypescript[times][ec] \mainlanguage[de] \starttext äÄöÖüÜß quotedblbase: \quotedblbase quotedblleft: \quotedblleft \showhyphens{Änderungsabnahme} \stoptext

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Again: "hanging" for a lot of paragraphs?
by Steffen Wolfrum 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

Hi friends, there are for sure more sophisticated and more urgent problems, but my question to me is really a big problem. Isn't there anybody that knows a command or a work-around that could help? Thank you very much, Steffen Steffen Wolfrum <st.wolfrum(a)estfiles.de> wrote: > Hi, > > I know there is \starthanging xxxx \stophanging and \hangafter=1 \hangindent=1em xxxx. > Both commands need to be added to each affected paragraph again and again, right? > > Is there a way to have this hanging first line for a series of paragraphs - with just a kind of > > > \starthangingarea > > aaaaaa > > bbbbbb > > cccccc > > \stophangingarea > > > > In cases like bibliographies and alike this would speed up work a lot!! > > Thank you very much, > > Steffen Wolfrum > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

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newbie question about xml
by Thomas A.Schmitz 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

It would be wonderful if I could find an easy way to translate my ConTeXt source-files to html. So I was wondering if going via xml would be a viable method. Unofrtunately, I know next to nothing about xml. I played a bit with Emacs nxml mode and tried to understand "xml in context," but a couple of stupid questions remain: 1) even with specialized tools like onyx or Emacs xml mode, will writing these source files ever be as easy as writing TeX-source? Is it worth the extra effort? 2) Can anybody point me to an example document written in xml that can be processed by ConTeXt? 3) If I understand "xml in context" correctly, one has to specify quite a few of the xml commands in a dtd so ConTeXt understands them. I had a look at x-contml.tex to see what such definitions should look like. So I wonder: if I have to tell ConTeXt about these commands anyway, wouldn't it be easier to simply write a perl script that does these conversions and translates TeX into xml? Sorry if these are dumb questions, but these are my very first attempt at xml. All best Thomas

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Re: Again: "hanging" for a lot of paragraphs?
by Steffen Wolfrum 18 Feb '04

18 Feb '04

Hi Patrick, this indeed was a VERY quick hack! But just was I was looking for. Once again thank you very much for you help, Steffen Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> wrote: > Hi, > > Very quick hack: > > \starttext > \def\hangover{\hangafter=1\hangindent=1em }% sorry for the stupid macro name > > \definestartstop[hangingarea] > [before={\bgroup\appendtoks\hangover\to\everypar}, > after=\egroup] > > \starthangingarea > \input tufte > > \input tufte > > \stophangingarea > > \input tufte > \stoptext > > > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

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problems with / bugs in naturals tables?
by Stefan Wachter 18 Feb '04

18 Feb '04

Hi all! I try to use ConTeXt to set tables specified with the CALS table model. Everything that is needed for this task is provided by the natural tables. Yet, the results are rather unsatisfactory. In particular I encounter the following problems: 1. The table header that is to be repeated after every page break includes a lot of whitespace. This white space is not contained in the provided input. 2. The frames of cells are extended bellow the bottom margin if there is a nr-attribute greater than one and a page break is necessary. In order to illustrate these problems, I attach a ConTeXt file and the produced pdf. Does anyone know about these problems? Is there a workaround? Thanks for your attention, --Stefan

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t-nath difficulty
by Gary Pajer 18 Feb '04

18 Feb '04

I'm taking a look at nath (via t-nath). Here's the very first thing I tried: In the following code, the first formula typesets as I want, and the second doesn't. But the syntax in the second looks correct. Bug or feature? or setup problem? \usemodule[nath] \starttext $ y = (1 + \frac{}{a}{b}) $ $ y = (1 + \frac{a}{b}) $ \stoptext

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live ConTeXt
by kopszak＠mnw.art.pl 18 Feb '04

18 Feb '04

Good evening, As there are plenty of live linux distributions on CDs I was wondering if there is one that includes ConTeXt. It should be relatively easy to make one based on KNOPPIX (my computer is too weak though). Please, let me know if you find one. Piotr -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw -----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/

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RE: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees
by "Höppner, Dierk" 18 Feb '04

18 Feb '04

I would second that. I can use it in computer program documentation for many different things. Greetings Dierk > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas A.Schmitz [mailto:thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:18 AM > To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so > many trees > > > Sorry for going back to an older thread, but I don't think > the question > was answered properly. Alexander Klink wanted to know how to typeset > "{" and "}". Suggestions were "\type|{| and \type|}|" or "$\{$ and > $\}$". Neither of which is satisfactory, because it will typeset them > either in typewriter or in math font. We had a discussion > about similar > questions a while ago. I still think we should have "\{" and > "\}" for > this kind of thing. As long as this isn't available, I see no better > solution than "\getglyph{Serif}{123}" and > "\getglyph{Serif}{125}" vel. > sim. For those of us working in the humanities, these curly > braces are > sometimes necessary (e.g., in critical editions), and having them in > typewriter or math fonts isn't acceptable. So may I continue my rally > for \{ etc.? > > All best > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >

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RE: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees
by "Höppner, Dierk" 17 Feb '04

17 Feb '04

Hello Tobias and Alexander, both works. Thank you. I didnt know that I can use '|' instead of '{'}. But one thing does not work: {\bf $\{$} does not print the '{' bold faced :-( Is there a workaround for this problem? Greetings Dierk Höppner > -----Original Message----- > From: Tobias Burnus [mailto:tobias.burnus@physik.fu-berlin.de] > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 4:04 PM > To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so > many trees > > > Hello, > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 01:29:48PM +0100, Alexander Klink wrote: > > > How do I print '{' and '}'. You may answer with RTFM but > please name the M > > > and page! > > what about \type|{| and \type|}| (just like \verb in LaTeX)? > Or $\{$ and $\}$ which uses the math font instead of the typewriter > front. > > Regards, > > Tobias > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >

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Error with XML and JS
by Gilles Pérez-Lambert 17 Feb '04

17 Feb '04

Hello, Continuing the ConTeXt exploration with Hans's help: <http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg01784.html> I'm trying to combine Hans's JS programming with XML processing but an error pops up: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% javascript : loading script set fld (/Users/gpl/texmf/tex/context/base/java-fld.tex ! Missing \endcsname inserted. <to be read again> \unhbox \leavevmode ->\unhbox \voidb@x \fakeunderscore ->\leavevmode \hbox {\setbox \scratchbox \hbox {(}\scratchdi... \_...fmmode \mathunderscore \else \textunderscore \fi \XML:ent:tex-underscore ...tterunderscore \else \_ \fi \ascii ->Sanitized\getXMLentity {tex-underscore} TeX\getXMLentity {tex-unders... ... l.115 \stopJSpreamble %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% with the attached TeX file. There's some kind of interaction between the two modes. Without \start(stop)XMLdata, it works. Thanks for your time, Gilles, preparing the next demo of ConTeXt in June (Paris). :-)

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proportional column widths in natural tables?
by Stefan Wachter 16 Feb '04

16 Feb '04

Hi all! Is there a possibility to specify proportional column widths when using natural tables? E.g. If i want to set column 1 and 2 to have 2/7 and column 3 3/7 of the available broadth. \setupTABLE[column][1][width=2*] \setupTABLE[column][2][width=2*] \setupTABLE[column][3][width=3*] Thanks for your attention, --Stefan

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How to access special quotationsmarks and the euro symbol
by Stefan Wachter 15 Feb '04

15 Feb '04

Hi all, can anyone tell me how the following unicode characters can be accessed with ConTeXt? “ - left double quotation mark „ - double low 9 quotation mark In LaTeX I used the \grqq- and \glqq-macros. In addition, I have difficulties in accessing the Euro character. The proposed method \usesymbols[euro] and the later use of \euro or \texteuro does not work. I get the message \definedfont=eurose at 14.39996pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. What steps do I have to perform in order to install that font correctly? Thanks for your attention and effort, --Stefan

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how to get bottom-vertical-alignment in (natural) table cells?
by Stefan Wachter 15 Feb '04

15 Feb '04

Hi all! I try to set a simple table that show the different horizontal and vertical alignment capabilities (see below): horizontal: left, middle, right vertical: top(?), lohi, bottom(?) Yet, the bottom alignment does not work. The texts in the third column that should be placed at the bottom appear at the top of their cell. Does anyone know how bottom alignment in table cells can be accomplished? Many thanks for your attention. --Stefan \bTABLE[width=3cm,height=3cm] \bTABLEbody \bTR \bTD[align={right,top}] top \eTD \bTD[align={right,lohi}] middle \eTD \bTD[align={right,bottom}] bottom \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD[align={middle,top}] top \eTD \bTD[align={middle,lohi}] middle \eTD \bTD[align={middle,bottom}] bottom \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD[align={left,top}] top \eTD \bTD[align={left,lohi}] middle \eTD \bTD[align={left,bottom}] bottom \eTD \eTR \eTABLEbody \eTABLE

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numexpr in etex / bug ?
by Hans Hagen 14 Feb '04

14 Feb '04

Hi, A numexpr either ends with a \relax or is delimited by () So, the following works as expected: \number\numexpr(1) test but ... the following gives an error message: \number\numexpr(1) /test so, the expr parser looks beyond the ) which is rather strange; bug or feature? (those expr are behaving a bit strange anyway) Hans PS. for those using etex primitives, recently i ran into a bug in \lastnodetype (resulting in incorrect return values or funny side effects), this is already corrected (by fabrice/olaf) in the yet to come versions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE/POD/CTS Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Not seeing the wood because of so many trees
by "Höppner, Dierk" 13 Feb '04

13 Feb '04

Hello, just a short and simple question with hopefully a quick answer: How do I print '{' and '}'. You may answer with RTFM but please name the M and page! Thanks and sorry for the simple question. greetings Dierk Höppner Technische Informationsbibliothek Universitätsbibliothek Hannover (TIB/UB) EDV / DOD Operating Welfengarten 1b, 30167 Hannover Tel.: 0511/762-4067, Fax: 0511/762-5881 Mobil: 0163/762 4067 E-Mail: dierk.hoeppner(a)tib-hannover.de http://www.tib.uni-hannover.de

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"hanging" for a lot of paragraphs?
by Steffen Wolfrum 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Hi, I know there is \starthanging xxxx \stophanging and \hangafter=1 \hangindent=1em xxxx. Both commands need to be added to each affected paragraph again and again, right? Is there a way to have this hanging first line for a series of paragraphs - with just a kind of \starthangingarea aaaaaa bbbbbb cccccc \stophangingarea In cases like bibliographies and alike this would speed up work a lot!! Thank you very much, Steffen Wolfrum

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load order?
by Adam Lindsay 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Hi. Who's familiar with initialisation file loading order? I define some generic formatting options in cont-loc (because it's loaded by default, it doesn't get overwritten, and I use it on several machines). I successfully use them by adding a command at the start of tex source files. I'd like them to be choose-able for any file from the command line with (I presume) a mode. I've tried this in cont-loc and cont-sys, but it doesn't have an effect. \doifmode {atl} {\LocalSetup[interaction,sansheadings]} Where should I put it? Is it maybe a grouping issue? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Update Problem
by Stefan Wachter 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Hi all. I try to update teTeX 2.0.2 to the current context distribution (cont-tmf.zip of 2004-1-13). After updating I can not process my old files. I get the following error message: ! Undefined control sequence. \@@toks ->\everyTEXinputmode Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Thank you for your attention, --Stefan These are the steps took to update ConTeXt: 1.I deleted all context subdirectories in the tetex/share/texmf directory. 2. I unpacked the cont-tmf.zip file into that directory. 3. I run texhash. 4. I created the formats by "texexec --make nl en de".

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using \localenvironment
by Mari Voipio 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

I've finally managed to set up my first project (a project file, an environment file, a product file and two components). It works quite reasonably, but only until I try to introduce a local environment that would only apply to this product (and not the 3-4 others I expect this project to contain at a later date). I do not understand how to make it work. First I tried to make a local environment as a part of my environment file, like this: \startlocalenvironment[gl-01] \setupheadertexts[Start-up instructions][GL-01] \stoplocalenvironment If I understand correctly, I could implement this local environment by adding the command \localenvironment[gl-01] somewhere - but where: in the project file before or after the name of the product in question or in the product file somewhere? I also tried making a separate file gl-01_env.tex which says \startlocalenvironment \setupheadertexts[Start-up instructions][GL-01] \stoplocalenvironment Now it could be implemented by giving the command \localenvironment gl-01_env but again, I'm at loss as to where the command should be given. An additional problem seems to be that my ConTeXt is old enough (if it ain't broke, don't fix it - so updates are pending) to be subject to missing English synonyms; however, the fix suggested in <http://ml-archives.mini.pw.edu.pl/ntg-context/msg06984.html> (using Dutch equivalents for some commands) doesn't seem to work for me, possible because of the problems above; I haven't yet managed to figure out which command goes where. I would be grateful indeed if I got a simple example on how to implement one local environment to one product and another one to another product. Or, if there's another manual for the project structure (not the beginner's manual or the big one, both have the same text without any examples, neither has definitions on the localenvironment commands), just give me a pointer...

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can TeX do That?
by Adam Lindsay 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

As a follow-up to yesterday's question from an ex-FrameMaker user, William Adams posted the following response to Hans's response: ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Can Tex do That? From: "William F. Adams" <wadams(a)atlis.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:15:07 -0500 I've been very busy at work lately (but finally finding (some) time to work on TUG2003 and my paper ;) The answers received here and on TeXHaX are quite good though, so I didn't feel (too) guilty about not answering. Did want to comment on this: On Monday, February 9, 2004, at 10:41 AM, Adam Lindsay quoted Hans Hagen saying: > - i still have to find something that cannot be done in tex (apart from > page by page made up documents but that's a different game anyway) Actually, when automated layout styles break down here or simply won't raise up to the customer's quality expectation here at work, doing such on a case-by-case, page-by-page basis is the raison-detre (sorry, not sure 'bout the funny French accents ;) for my employment here. Doing such manually / by hand in TeX is the first line of defence and is usually where things are held at (picking spreads to run long / short is a good example as is forcing float placement), but at need we'll fall back on tweaking things w/ Enfocus PitStop or (re)creating a section in FreeHand or Illustrator. This is usually done in the final moments of a project when time is tight and there's no payoff for doing things programmatically (most of our books are one-offs and the designer was _not_ paid extra for series use) A question I've not seen asked is, did you trouble to tag your documents w/ SGML? If so, you're a good ways toward re-use / switching to a formatting engine like TeX. If not, what's your budget? My suggestion would be to set up LaTeX documentclass packages for all the documents which you create, then use LyX for editing all of your text source (and rtf2latex to pull in Word .docs from the un-washed masses), w/ a .layout file for LyX which calls your documentclasses, things should, ``just work'' at that point except for the odd special case which will require manual tweaking (can be done as ERT (evil red text --- raw LaTeX code) inserted into the text). There was a very nice presentation at TUG2003 on doing this sort of switch, but the company bought the code and it wasn't released. Can't resist pointing out though that John Warnock swore up and down that for so long as he was in charge at Adobe after their purchase of Frame Corp. Adobe would do FrameMaker (nominally he's not in charge of day-to-day operations these days). William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------

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