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Re: ConTeXt Switcher?
by Christopher G. D. Tipper 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:27:34 +0100 > From: Giuseppe Bilotta <gip.bilotta(a)iol.it> > To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > Subject: Re[2]: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher? > Reply-To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > > Not that I see the purpose of using Word in the frist place. > Any decent editor has enough macro power to do the same. > > -- > Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta You missed the point. You markup and style your document using Word styles, and then XML is a matter of search and replace. I am not interested in Word per se, but I find using emacs to insert markup during document creation gets in the way of my thought processes. This way I can push markup worries to the editorial stage. People are fond of pointing out Words vices, and I wouldn't quibble with arguments about its stability, but it is about time OpenOffice and its ilk stopped resting on their laurels and started implementing some macro capability. I notice that AbiWord has a DocBook output format, but how well integrated this is I don't know. On Micro$oft's part if they had some real competition a real market in third-party templates might arrive. As it stands I have a 50% solution that handles footnotes and lists, but re-distribution is hampered by the way Word handles its templates and virus worries. Theoretically I could do tables and limited image markup using the same techniques. Leveraging the visual layout tools of a word-processor makes so much sense I wonder at the mentality of people still struggling with text-editors. I have emacs set up on my machine, but it really looks like back to the future from my point of view. I use WinEdt when I'm booted into Windows. btw you can use the same technique to generate native Context markup. It needs hand-editting, but as a rough draft, this works fine for me, and I don't have to re-invent the wheel every time I have a new document. Christopher

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placefigure for Christmas
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Hi Hans, as it comes close to Christmas I'd like to tell you my biggest wish: "placefigure[top,left], placefigure[bottom,right]" (see below) Isn't there something that you could cook up for this special occasion? Steffen Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > At 14:25 17/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: > > > What is needed is a kind of extension to placefigure[top] where figures > are *still* placed top/bottom but *also* are surrounded by text (right or > left). > > this is kind of impossible in tex since it works per paragraph and during > that it has no concept of crossing a page boundary; i presume that i can > cook up something for a controlled situation but it's far from trivial > > Hans

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Active points on a ground plan (CD-ROM catalogue)
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Hi, I'd like to make the CD-ROM catalogue (PDF) of an architectural exhibition in ConTeXt. In short the general idea is: - First you have a page with a map showing the locations of the different buildings. - Then you should point on location you are interested in and jump to the page where this particular building is described in detail. - Then again you should be able to jump back to the point (centered?) on the map where you have started. My main question now is: Is it possible in ConTeXt to locate/define on the map (one image) certain points/areas that will contain the links to respective the detail page? Thank you, Steffen

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Re: ntg-context digest, Vol 1 #581 - 7 msgs
by Christopher G. D. Tipper 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:27:34 +0100 > From: Giuseppe Bilotta <gip.bilotta(a)iol.it> > To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > Subject: Re[2]: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher? > Reply-To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl > > Not that I see the purpose of using Word in the frist place. > Any decent editor has enough macro power to do the same. > > -- > Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta You missed the point. You markup and style your document using Word stylesheets, and then XML is a matter of search and replace. A hold load better than a lame text-editor. If Word hadn't got such a stupid macro installation technology (templates have never been promoted properly by Micor$oft) this would be routine stuff. It would probably be a pain to automatically markup tables, and handling image properties is something I haven't investigated, but as a 50% solution it works for me. As for TOCs and bibliographies, use Context. btw exactly the same technique works for generating LaTeX commands. Context is just so much more elegant. Christopher

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\setuphead question (long section lines not wrapping)
by William D. Neumann 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

I'm trying to layout a paper for a conference that requires a format different from the standard latex layout, and for the most part context has been making this quite easy on me (excluding the four hours I spent trying to mimic the latex \thanks{} construct), however, I've encoutered a new problem that's confusing me. since I'm sure the problem stems from my lack of plain tex and context knowledge, I figured someone here would know what I'm doing wrong, and asking you for help is certainly more pleasant than banging my head for another four hours only to find another trivial solution... My problem is this: I needed to place a "." after the number in the section and subsection headings, so I included the following in my preamble: % setup section headings to include a . after the section number \setuphead [section] [command=\mysec, indentnext=yes] \def\mysec#1#2{#1. #2} \setuphead [subsection] [command=\mysubsec, indentnext=yes] \def\mysubsec#1#2{#1. #2} This works just fine as far as inserting the ".", however, it has the side-effect of not wrapping long section of subsection headings. For example, \subsection[longsubsec]{This is a really long subsection heading that won't wrap} gets typeset all on a single line, which is not good since the paper is set in two columns... So, is there either a better (more proper) way to insert the ".", or at least a better command to use for \mysec and \mysubsec Thanks, William D. Neumann --- "Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days." -- Jarvis Cocker

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher?
by Christopher G D Tipper 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

> On Dec 8, 2003, at 2:33 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > > Am Montag, 08.12.03, um 18:20 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Bob > > Kerstetter: > >> ConTeXt is very attractive because of its detailed control, layers, > >> colors, few or no packages(!!!!!), magical developers, and on and on. > >> It can obvious produce PDF. Can it also produce HTML and Word from > >> the same document? > > > > The normal way to get both PDF and HTML is using a XML source. > > You know of ConTeXts native XML mode? > > AFAIK you can import XML or HTML into MS Office, too, so you need no > > real Word DOC output. > > Or perhaps there's an other XML to RTF/DOC Konverter... > > I know XML source should work, but at least for me, creating XML source > is unproductive. I work with a text editor and find writing this: > > ``Hello world,'' says HAL. > > much more productive than writing this: > > <p>“Hello world”</p>, says HAL. > > Maybe I'm missing something, but for writing, XML's markup requirements > -- which are invisible to field-based data entry screen -- are way too > intense for hand-editing. TeX source is much less verbose. It is easier > to create, proof (both visually and audibly), spell check > troubleshoot, etc. I have not seen an editor capable of doing XML > source in a productive manner, like (La)TeX with text editor. This is probably taboo, but surely the smart thing to do is start from Word, generate some XML with macros, and produce some HTML with stylesheets, some PDF with ConTeXt. BTW you can generate some simple Context with VB macros and hand-edit -- saves a whole load of mundane stuff. I can go from a web page to PDF in under 15 minutes using the Word macros I have for Context. Christopher --------------------------------o00o-------------------------------- “Since light travels faster than sound, isn’t that why some people appear bright until you hear them speak” — Steve Wright

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texexec --mptex final (fwd)
by David Arnold 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

All, I am compiling a metapost file with first line: input mp-tool I have installed the latest version of teTeX on Red Hat Linux 9. I am getting this output during compile: [darnold@ps-114a-2k final]$ texexec --mptex final TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 metapost to tex : final executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : tmpgraph output : dvips interface : en options : once current mode : none This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./tmpgraph.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2003.12.9 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : tmpgraph.top loaded (./tmpgraph.top specials : loading definition file dvi (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex <unprotect 3> <protect 3>) specials : tex loaded specials : loading definition file ps (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex) specials : tex,postscript loaded specials : loading definition file tr (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex) specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded ) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] systems : end file tmpgraph at line 181 ) Output written on tmpgraph.dvi (90 pages, 6452 bytes). Transcript written on tmpgraph.log. return code : 0 run time : 0 seconds dvi to metapost : final metapost : final format : metafun This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (final.mp (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/metapost/context/base/mp-tool.mp) [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] metafun 2003-12-9 7:38 ) 22 output files written: final.1 .. final.22 Transcript written on final.log. total run time : 2 seconds I am particularly concerned with these three lines: pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map Should I add something to updmap.cfg and run updmap? -- David Arnold College of the Redwoods. Mathematics Department 7351 Tompkins Hill Road Eureka, CA 95501 Office phone: 707-476-4222 Fax: 707-476-4424 Home page: http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/

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by David Arnold 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

confirm 901767 -- David Arnold College of the Redwoods. Mathematics Department 7351 Tompkins Hill Road Eureka, CA 95501 Office phone: 707-476-4222 Fax: 707-476-4424 Home page: http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/

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texexec --mptex final
by David Arnold 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

All, I am compiling a metapost file with first line: input mp-tool I have installed the latest version of teTeX on Red Hat Linux 9. I am getting this output during compile: [darnold@ps-114a-2k final]$ texexec --mptex final TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 metapost to tex : final executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : tmpgraph output : dvips interface : en options : once current mode : none This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./tmpgraph.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2003.12.9 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : tmpgraph.top loaded (./tmpgraph.top specials : loading definition file dvi (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex <unprotect 3> <protect 3>) specials : tex loaded specials : loading definition file ps (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex) specials : tex,postscript loaded specials : loading definition file tr (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex) specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded ) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] [1.1] systems : end file tmpgraph at line 181 ) Output written on tmpgraph.dvi (90 pages, 6452 bytes). Transcript written on tmpgraph.log. return code : 0 run time : 0 seconds dvi to metapost : final metapost : final format : metafun This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (final.mp (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/metapost/context/base/mp-tool.mp) [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] metafun 2003-12-9 7:38 ) 22 output files written: final.1 .. final.22 Transcript written on final.log. total run time : 2 seconds I am particularly concerned with these three lines: pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map Should I add something to updmap.cfg and run updmap? -- David Arnold College of the Redwoods. Mathematics Department 7351 Tompkins Hill Road Eureka, CA 95501 Office phone: 707-476-4222 Fax: 707-476-4424 Home page: http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/

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TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=35000]
by Sytse Knypstra 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Hi, When using Hans' adaptation for typesetting bold math in a small example everything went fine. But when using it in a somewhat larger text I ran into the error: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=35000]. I remember a discussion a few months ago about this problem in MikTeX. Is there any solution in MikTeX available? Thanks, Sytse

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