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\setupregister -> \setupindex
by Giuseppe Bilotta 08 Oct '05

08 Oct '05

I just noticed that \setupindex is not exactly the same as \setupregister[index]; indeed, \setupindex does not allow the syntax \setupindex[form][options=values] whereas \setupregister[index][form][options=values] is valid. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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RE: [NTG-context] bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order
by Idris Samawi Hamid 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hi Taco, Thnx for working on this! I am confused about a couple of things though... >===== Original Message From Taco Hoekwater <taco(a)elvenkind.com> ===== >There is one bbl per article, but only one (global) list >of references & publications, so, for now, your bbl files >need to define bib items with unique keys. I hope this is >workable for now? In the examples I sent there was no global list. Are you saying that I need to 1. move my multiple bbl files into one global bbl file; 2. if one reference is used in more than one article, then that reference must be duplicated in the global bbl file but with a different key each time. That is, if [afghani60] is used in two articles, then I must do something like \startpublication[k=afghani60-i,... \startpublication[k=afghani60-ii,... in the global file. Is this right or am I not getting it?-) >On the project structure: I believe a project file should be >pure virtual, so that: the components are the articles, the >product is the journal issue, and the project is the journals >entire lifespan. Hmm, I have been treating each issue of the journal as a distinct project in itself. Maybe for the next volume I'll try the more abstract approach. But I don't understand how this issue affects the bib issue. >Such a structure would need a different solution from the one >I have implemented now, so we may have to revisit this part >of the module in a few weeks. Is that ok? Ok, I appreciate all u've done up to now... >> 2. Can t-bib extract the references and place them in alphabetical order, or >> do I have to still organize my bbl files alphabetically by hand (I really hope >> not->)? Automatic alphabetizing bbl file data in the output has been one of my >> major wishes for t-bib. > >The current module cannot do this, because it is unfeasible to do >sorting in TeX macros. I will investigate sorting through texutil >or something similiar, but that will need more than a few days/weeks >to implement, so definately will not be ready before tuesday. That's ok, I have to work on the next issue right after the immediate (late) issue-) >Btw, if you use bibtex, then you can do > > \setupbibtex[sort=title] > >because then bibtex does the sorting for me. :-) Does this mean that I have to create a global .bib file instead of a global .bbl file? Do I have to go back to bibtex syntax? I have have been creating bbl files by hand upto now... By the way: I have been using mswincontext.zip as my stand-alone TeX installation, and no longer update fpTeX, etc. Since t-bib is a part of ConTeXt now, does it not make sense that BibTeX also be included, at least until it is no longer needed? I'll test things shortly: Thnx for all your help! Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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RE: [NTG-context] bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order
by Idris Samawi Hamid 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

>===== Original Message From Taco Hoekwater <taco(a)elvenkind.com> ===== >I have uploaded a new beta for you. > > http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta/20051007.zip "Not Found The requested URL /bib/m-bib-beta/20051007.zip was not found on this server." -) Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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RE: [NTG-context] D R A F T on pages
by Idris Samawi Hamid 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

>===== Original Message From Peter Münster <pmlists(a)free.fr> ===== >Perhaps a bit simpler: > >\setupcolors[state=start] >\defineoverlay[Draft][{\lightgray > \scale[factor=max]{\rotate[rotation=60]{~DRAFT~}}}] >\setupbackgrounds[page][background=Draft] >\starttext >\input tufte >\stoptext Indeed! Wonderful!! Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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A particular form of index (register) coupling
by Giuseppe Bilotta 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hello, I have a register where all the entries appear once (and only once) in a particular form (\index[def::]{entry}) but can appear any number of times in the standard form (\index{entry}). I would like the particular coupling to make all standard form entries clickable and linking to the one and only \index[def::]{entry}. This could be of course generalized to some kind of couplingcommand=\command#1#2 that is user-defineable ... -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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Automatic next indent
by Giuseppe Bilotta 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hello all, and Hans in particular: Some time ago http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl/msg01744.html I had proposed a patch that added the "auto" value to some commmon indentnext options. I would *really* this to be taken into consideration. Rationale: things like formulas, itemgroups and the like (basically, everything that allows indentnext) are "displays". "Displays" are parts of the document that are embedded in a paragraph but are "put in display" by appropriate indenting & other tricks. Now, there are cases in which the paragraph continues after the display, and cases when it doesn't. So for example """ Some text in a paragraph, plus other text, still in the same paragraph and a displayed thing and a continuation of the same paragraph with some more text and other text """ would be different from """ Some text in a paragraph, plus other text, still in the same paragraph and a displayed thing In a separate pragraph, we have some other text """ Note that the two cases should be handled separately: in the first case, I *don't* want any indentation nor any blank line; in the second case, I might want either or both. indentnext=auto would NOT put an indent in cases like this: """ some paragraph \startdisplayedmaterial displayed stuff (formula or itemgroup or anything else) \stopdisplayedmaterial still same paragraph """ but WOULD put an indent here """ some paragraph \startdisplayedmaterial displayed stuff (formula or itemgroup or anything else) \stopdisplayedmaterial Different paragraph """ Hans, can you please consider it for inclusion? The patch is somewhat out of date, given the age, but the principle should be obvious. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order
by Idris Samawi Hamid 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

1. Does t-bib now support multiple bibliographies? For past issues of the journal, I had to define a new bib-env file for each article that required a bibliography, otherwise the bibliography of, say, article two would include the bibliography for article one. Is there a general solution for this? 2. Can t-bib extract the references and place them in alphabetical order, or do I have to still organize my bbl files alphabetically by hand (I really hope not->)? Automatic alphabetizing bbl file data in the output has been one of my major wishes for t-bib. If the above two are solved I can use a single master bbl file for the entire journal instead of multiple files, thus streamlinig much of my workflow. Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Bib-module: crossreferences
by Roelof Langman 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hi Taco, Are crossreferences supposed to work in the new bib module? According to the Latex companion pp. 404ff. a crossreference can be made in an @inbook to a @book provided the @inbook precedes the @book in a .bib-file. If a @book is referenced at least two times by an @inbook, an entry for the @book is included in the reference list. In the new bibtex-module for Context, the crossreferences are resolved properly, I think, but the crossreferenced entry is not yet included in the reference list. I \cite[gould:1979] and \cite[rioch:1979], but lawrence:1979 doesn't appear in the reference list. Cheers, Roelof @inbook{gould:1979, author = "Gould, Laurence J.", crossref = "lawrence:1979", title = "Men and Women at Work: A Group Relations Conference on Person and Role", note = "See also \cite[rioch:1979].", pages = "111--122" } @inbook{rioch:1979, author = "Rioch, Margaret J.", crossref = "lawrence:1979", title = "The A.K. Rice Group Relations Conferences as a Reflection of Society", pages = "53--68" } @book{lawrence:1979, editor = "Lawrence, W. Gordon", title = "Exploring Individual and Organizational Boundaries.", publisher = "John Wiley \& Sons Ltd", year = 1979 }

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bib module: support \noopsort
by Giuseppe Bilotta 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hello Taco, would it be possible for your module to support the \noopsort command you can find in some .bib files? Basically, a key like key = {\noopsort{value1}}value2 will print as value2 but be sorted under value1 (details in the bibtex references? For the time being I'm just putting a \let\noopsort\relax in my document. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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getvariable
by Thomas A. Schmitz 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

I thought I had understood at least some aspects of macros, but it turns out I'm as lost as always. Here's my problem: I'm writing a module which will have a \setupcommand. The value is given in a [key=pair] list, so I thought I could use \getvariable. What I have is \def\setupcommand{\setvariables[namespace]} % setting up the namespace \setvariables[namespace][key=value,otherkey=value] % initializing the keys % And now I want to wrap my values up in a conditional statement: \doifelse{\getvariable{namespace}{key}}{value} {do something} {do something else} When I put the \doifelse statement into my source files, the test works; the key is assigned the value that is in the setupcommand. But this doesn't work at runtime: either \getvariable{namespace}{key} always has the value I assign in the line \setvariables[namespace] [key=value,otherkey=value], or if I comment out that line, the variable is empty. I can see why this is the case: the setupcommand is read AFTER the module, so at runtime, the variable is not assigned yet. So my approach seems fundamentally flawed. What could I do instead? Thanks for your help Thomas

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