March 2010 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

Re: [NTG-context] pk-directory
by Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

On 27 Mar 2010 at 12:00, ntg-context-request(a)ntg.nl wrote: > > That being said, I realize that it means Metafont fonts can't be > > used in Mark IV, am I right? > > Dumping a ready-made pk file in the local directory worked last > time I tried it. No success! Neiter *.pk nor *.600pk and not with a local subdir /dpi600 What extension have you used? Is there a debug-switch which informs the user what and where luatex is searching? Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Microtype in ConTeXt
by Michael Saunders 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

> On 27-3-2010 1:15, Yan Zhou wrote: > >> As I can see now ConTeXt is indeed a far more advanced system than LaTeX. But I have one more query. Where can I find the documents. When following these replies and some other messages in the list, I find some commands not documented in the Manual or Reference Manual. In LaTeX, all commands are detailed documented in source2e.tex, in TeX, The TeXBook explains everything. So in ConTeXt, where can I find such detailed documents. I tried the documented source, but it is more like a PDF version or source with only a little documentation. > > as most of the functrionality does not change you can use older docs > (website, wiki etc) for most cases > > newer things i.e. introduced in mkiv using luatex are described in for > instance mk.pdf and articles > > of course the wiki is a good source as well Notice that Yan Zhou isn't complaining that the docs are old. Our problem is that they are sketchy and rambling, bits and pieces of this and that without any systematic explanations. Often they are just some unexplained code samples that communicate nothing (unless you happen to be the guy who invented the language). I can't think of one command that is fully explained along with all its possible parameters. The wiki is better written, but even less complete. It might not be possible to do better, but this is a huge obstacle to anyone who actually wants to use ConTeXt. The docs hint at a lot of features that sound better than LaTeX, but actually getting them to work is a different story.

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Re: [NTG-context] letter: backaddress
by Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

Hallo, > \setupletterstyle[backaddress=yes] > > it's a disabled by default but i forgot to do this also in the > default style > (most styles reset the layout and use default values before they > modify it) > > \setupletterstyle > > [backaddress] > > [alternative=auto, > > > 'auto' is now the default value > > Wolfgang I do not understand the the main principle. What is the difference between \setupletterstyle[option][backaddress=yes] and \setupletterstyle[backaddress][alternative=yes] In 'default.nli' I found \defineletterelement[\v!backaddress][\v!auto] {\doifelselettervalue\c!backaddress {\lettervalue\c!backaddress} {\lettervalue\c!fromname \doiflettervalue\c!fromaddress\\ \lettervalue\c!fromaddress}} what I interpret in the following way: If 'backaddress'=auto If exist a constant 'backaddress' use it else compose one from 'fromname' and 'fromaddress' To use this, I tried to set \setupletterstyle[option][backaddress=auto] or \setupletterstyle[backaddress][alternative=auto] And I tried to set this constant backaddress, with setlettervalue{backaddress}{something} But no combination is working. What worked is \setupletterstyle[option][backaddress=yes] \setlettervalue{backaddress}{something} which should not work, because \defineletterelement[\v!backaddress][\v!yes] {\lettervalue\c!fromname \doiflettervalue\c!fromaddress\\ \lettervalue\c!fromaddress} is composing the 'backaddress' from the fromdata. My skills to read the sourcecode are very limited, so most likely I buhave something misunderstood. Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] pk-directory
by Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

On 26 Mar 2010 at 22:09, Hartmut Henkel wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 26-3-2010 21:30, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote: > > > > > > how should the directory be named where a 600 dpi pk-font is > > > searched for by luatex? > > > > i'm not so sure if luatex does pk fonts (i havent't included pk > fonts > > in 15 years) > > it does, with the default kpathsea paths, e. g.: > > hahe@hahepc1:~$ luatex xx > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032122 (rev 3515) > (./xx.tex [1] ) > </home/hahe/.texlive2009/texmf-var/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm/cm > r10.600pk> > Output written on xx.pdf (1 page, 3242 bytes). > Transcript written on xx.log. > > or > > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032122 (rev 3515) > (./xx.tex [1] ) > </usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm/d > pi600/cmr10.pk> > Output written on xx.pdf (1 page, 3242 bytes). > Transcript written on xx.log. > > Regards, Hartmut Hello Hartmut, hallo Hans, I have tried both variants but nothing works. I use the minimals under windows. What can I do (examine files, logs) to solve the problem? Wolfgang

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letter: backaddress
by Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

Hallo, 'backaddress' is composed from 'fromname' and 'fromaddress', but this is to long and must be shortend. How can I overwritte 'backaddress'? Gruß, Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] URL setup
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

Hi Now I see. Thanks. > \setupinteraction > [state=start, > color=red] % \goto and \from > > \setupurl > [color=orange] % \url B.R. Vyatcheslav

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Microtype in ConTeXt
by Yan Zhou 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

Dear all, I am thinking about moving from LaTeX to ConTeXt. But there is one thing make this particularly difficult. That is the microtype LaTeX package. More specifically I have the following questions (assuming I will use MKIV and luatex) 1. I understand that ConTeXt can do margin kerning and font expansion, but is there a way to setup a configuration file for each font set. Like the mt-foo.cfg file for font family foo when using microtype in latex. 2. Is there a way to do letterspace in ConTeXt. I understand there is a command called \stretched. But what I want is the feature like the tracking option in microtype package, which can automatically letterspace all small caps. Moreover is there a way to define new sets of fonts for letterspace. For example I defined a new font shape called \capshape, which use case tags of OpenType, and I want to use letterspace this shape with certain amount all the time because I am not satisfied with the space provided by the cpsp tag of OpenType. I am sorry for using and LaTeX terminology. I haven't start learning ConTeXt at all at this stage. I want to first know if it provide all the features I need before I spend my time on learning a new language.

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Importing program text.
by John Culleton 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

I want to import the text of several programs in my latest book. My requirements are: 1. Monospaced font. 2. Courier or similar typeface 3. Smaller than normal typeface (to avoid wraparound.) I have been fiddling with \typefile but I am having trouble accomplishing the above. -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ------------------------------------------------------- -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com

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Re: [NTG-context] letter-module: reference
by Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

Hallo Wolfgang, > > I am trying to make a simple invoice with Wolfgangs letter-module > and > > have some questions: > > > > I have the following reference in mind > > > > \setupletterstyle[reference][ > > alternative=d, > > list={invoice,taxnumber,phone,date}] > > > > 1) How can one position this horizontaly and verticaly? > > > Manual: Section 9.3 and 9.7 This means, that one has to make a customized reference? > > 2) How can I define additional keys like 'taxnumber'? > > > > I have found a key 'frombank' but it is to long for the ref-line and > > > Manual: Chapter 5 Sorry, I must have tomatoes on my eyes but I can not find a command in this chapter which defines a new key. I found \setuplabeltext which sets the labeltext of a defined key and I found \setlettervalue which sets label and value at once. Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] URL setup
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Hi Wolfgang Nice, and your example works. But why mine does not?? > \setupinteraction > [state=start, > color=red] % \goto and \from > > \setupurl > [color=orange] % \url > > \useURL[149][http://xkcd.com/149/][][I prefer hot dogs.] > \useURL[224][http://xkcd.com/224/] > > \starttext > \startlines > \goto{In Lua, array indices start from one.}[url(http://www.xkcd.com/163/)] > \from[149] > \url [224] > \stoplines > \stoptext > > Wolfgang -- Best Regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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