May 2009 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

underbar to space
by Xan 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hi, I just want to do \underbar{\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ .... \ } for doing something like: __________________ . When I do that ConTeXt does not underbar me the spaces. The same applies for \underbar{\space \space \space } How can I get that \underbar underbars the spaces even? Thanks in advance, Xan. PS: Please CC mail me.

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Fresh install & t-letter module
by Markus Hubig 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hi @all, I did a fresh install @linux. mkdir context && cd context wget http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh first-setup.sh --extras="t-letter" Wrote a letter: \usemodule[letter] \starttext \startletter Thus, I came to the conclusion ... \stopletter \stoptext Compiled it: *texexec --lua brief.tex* Aaaand -> bum! system : brief.top loaded (brief.top) fonts : preloading latin modern fonts bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : language en is active system : module letter not found systems : begin file brief at line 2 ! Undefined control sequence. l.3 \startletter *texexec --xtx brief.tex* ! Undefined control sequence. \dosetbuffer ...setcurrentbuffer {#1}\mksetbuffer *texexec brief.tex* ! Undefined control sequence. \dosetbuffer ...setcurrentbuffer {#1}\mksetbuffer Why can't something like this not "just work"! Markus -- -------------------"it's like this"------ even samurai have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk

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replacing words by underlines
by Alan Stone 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hi, In the underneath example, how do you get each word replaced by an underline ? Or, if not possible, underlined word groups with correct underline breaks for multi-line phrases. \def\UnderlineA#1% {\underbars{#1}} \def\UnderlineB#1% {\underbars{\phantom{#1}}} %{\underbar{\phantom{#1}}} \definetextbackground[underline][% location=text, alternative=1, background=, frame=off] \def\UnderlineC{% \groupedcommand {\starttextbackground[underline]} {\stoptextbackground}} \starttext Thus, I came to \UnderlineA{the conclusion} that the designer of a new system \UnderlineA{must not only be the implementer and first} large--scale user; the designer should also write the first user manual. Thus, I came to \UnderlineB{the conclusion} that the designer of a new system \UnderlineB{must not only be the implementer and first} large--scale user; the designer should also write the first user manual. Thus, I came to \UnderlineC{the conclusion} that the designer of a new system \UnderlineC{must not only be the implementer and first} large--scale user; the designer should also write the first user manual. \stoptext Thanks, Alan

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formula-style alignment
by afsmith 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hey again, ntg-context. I would like to align one piece of a line to the left, and another piece of the same line to the right, sort of like numbered math equations, except not math. Additionally I would like to do this inside a narrowed block How can I do this? I have tried side-by-side-frames-inside-a-frame but the two pieces of the line just stay clumped together. I have tried '\startalign' and '\(left|right)aligned' to no avail. I have tried '\hfill' but that pushes things past into/past the right margin...

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interlinespace
by Thomas A. Schmitz 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hi all, I'm probably forgetting something very obvious, but could someone tell me how I can make the linespace in the second paragraph of this example smaller? Thanks a lot! Thomas \usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,20pt] \starttext \input tufte {\switchtobodyfont[10pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt] \input tufte } \stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] how to prevent header at page bottom
by Jos van Gisbergen 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hi Aditya, Your solution works for normal text following the header. But if I have a framed text with a background, which also has a "before={\testpage[3]}" (\definetextbackground[FramedText][ ...,before={\testpage[3]},...]) and the section starts with such a framed text, it can still go wrong. And I guess it can also go wrong if a section starts with a figure. Is there some way to specify that if less than a certain number of items (lines of text, frames, figures etc.) fit on the remainder of the current page, the next page should be taken? Thanks in advance, Jos ________________________________ From: "ntg-context-request(a)ntg.nl" <ntg-context-request(a)ntg.nl> To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:21:26 PM Subject: ntg-context Digest, Vol 59, Issue 85 Send ntg-context mailing list submissions to ntg-context(a)ntg.nl To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ntg-context-request(a)ntg.nl You can reach the person managing the list at ntg-context-owner(a)ntg.nl When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ntg-context digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: How to prevent header at page bottom (Aditya Mahajan) 2. Re: beta: figure boundingbox (Hans Hagen) 3. Re: bugs in beta (footnotes) (Hans Hagen) 4. Re: docs (Mari Voipio) 5. Re: Updating bug: linux-64 (bbvogel(a)home.nl) 6. Re: Updating bug: linux-64 (Taco Hoekwater) 7. Re: docs (R. Bastian) 8. Re: beta (12.05.2009, 22:36): footnote marker and overprinting (Hans Hagen) 9. Re: Updating bug: linux-64 (Arthur Reutenauer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:02:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Aditya Mahajan <adityam(a)umich.edu> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] How to prevent header at page bottom To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0905141001180.6207(a)ybpnyubfg.ybpnyqbznva> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 14 May 2009, Jos van Gisbergen wrote: > Hi, > > I have defined my own header: > \definehead[myhead][subsection] > \setuphead[myhead][ page=no, number=no ] > All works fine, except sometimes the head appears at page bottom and > the text starts on the next page. How can I specify that if less than, say, > 3 lines of text fit on the current page below the head, the head and text > should start on the next page. \testpage[3] checks that you have space for atleast 3 lines in the current page. So you can use \setuphead[myhead][before={\testpage[3]\blank}] Aditya ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:09:24 +0200 From: Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] beta: figure boundingbox To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> Message-ID: <4A0C2614.1040009(a)wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Peter Rolf wrote: > Hans Hagen schrieb: >> Peter Rolf wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> while comparing the PDF of mkii and mkiv I noticed a slight differ in >>> the boundingboxes (bb) of MP figures. >>> While all mkii bb have the form [0 0 w h], the mkiv counterparts use >>> [-1 -1 w+1 h+1]. So the bb of mkiv is enlarged 1bp in all directions. >>> Is this intended? >> >> harmless ... it prevents clipping of lines > mh, you mean if something is \framed (with default frame settings)? if the bbox goes through the middle of a line in an xform then you get (in acrobat) clipped lines so this avoids that problem ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:08:13 +0200 From: Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] bugs in beta (footnotes) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> Message-ID: <4A0C25CD.6030109(a)wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Am 12.05.2009 um 19:07 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: > >> Only footnotes in section titles don't work - should they? >> >> [...] >> >> I couldn't construct a minimal failing example - any hints? > > > No solution but here is a test file: > > \setupinteraction[state=start] > \starttext > \section{foo\footnote{bar}} > \stoptext repaired ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:59:53 +0300 From: Mari Voipio <mari.voipio(a)iki.fi> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] docs To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> Message-ID: <4A0C31E9.6040501(a)iki.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed R. Bastian wrote: > -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? I assume it depends on what you are planning to do with ConTeXt. I've been using ConTeXt for at least five years now, but I've never touched TeX (nor LaTeX nor any others, just ConTeXt). I've got a vague idea what it is about and that's it. Some points though: - background in something else than WYSIWYG editing (What You See Is What You Get = Word, for example) helps a lot. Before I started with ConTeXt I'd already done my share of html and I've learned to do structured documents also in word processing (i.e. "mark it heading 1" instead of "make that big and black). - I do ConTeXt pretty much with the "learn-as-you-go" philosophy and when I really have to learn something, I'm pretty determined; most of my ConTeXt usage is at work and if something needs to be done, it has to get done and I can't back off if it seems difficult first. (It took me two days, lot of swearing and a few questions on this mailing list to achieve my first ConTeXt doc in Cyrillic, but I did it in the end. Now it is of course as easy as can be...) - depends on the operationg system and user's backgrouns, too. Those who've used linux/mainframe are probably less likely to be upset by ConTeXt while your average Mac/Windows user may go crazy at the steep start of the learning curve; I'd done some unix and that definitely increased my tolerance. There are days when I swear and yell and curse myself for going over from Word to ConTeXt. But on 9 days out of 10 I pat myself on the back for making the switch. Especially on those styles when MS Word defies all of my attempts to keep a document structurally styled... That's my five cents, Mari ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:31 +0200 From: bbvogel(a)home.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64 To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> Message-ID: <200905141700.31202.bbvogel(a)home.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Thursday 14 May 2009, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > bbvogel(a)home.nl wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Updating context (linux-64) gives: > > > > texlua: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by > > texlua) > > This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( Thanks. 3 months after release and Debian Lenny is already too old. Compiling luatex myself and updating minimals, does that work? > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : > http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________ >________ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:10:29 +0200 From: Taco Hoekwater <taco(a)elvenkind.com> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64 To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> Message-ID: <4A0C3465.2010406(a)elvenkind.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 bbvogel(a)home.nl wrote: >> This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( > Thanks. > > 3 months after release and Debian Lenny is already too old. If it was any other distro I would be surprised ;) Lenny is glibc 2.7, right? > Compiling luatex myself and updating minimals, does that work? It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Best wishes, Taco ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:12:06 +0200 From: "R. Bastian" <rbastian(a)free.fr> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] docs To: ntg-context(a)ntg.nl Message-ID: <20090514171206.2979f816@KUBUNTU64> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Aditya Mahajan <adityam(a)umich.edu> scribit: > On Thu, 14 May 2009, R. Bastian wrote: > [...] > > > I wish to alternate french & german texts (so they can be translated in > > other languages). > > Also see > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_on_Excursion%2C_translations > > The wiki page is old and the svn repo is not accessible right now, but > someone started translating it into french. Thanks, but I will write the source in the following manner: -------------------- \german Was meinst Du? \bavarian Woas moanst? \french Que veux-tu dire ? ------------------------ It is not necessaury to make texian acrobaties: the extraction can be done by a little Python-script > > Aditya > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:15:27 +0200 From: Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] beta (12.05.2009, 22:36): footnote marker and overprinting To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> Message-ID: <4A0C358F.4020109(a)wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Peter Rolf wrote: > Hi, > > just in case this slipped someone's mind :) > > I still get an error about an undefined control sequence > (\PDFobjectreferenceB) and the footnote marker (star) is not moved with > the footnote (\moveright). > > The attached example code (with overprinting) breaks with the mentioned > error. The attached picture shows the problem with the separated > footnote marker. It can be created with the other versions (without > overprinting) of the \NoteNumber and \MyFootnote macros. it's \def\MyFootnote#1{\footnote {\hskip3em \startproperty[overprint]#1\stopproperty}} (i'll make \startoverprint which is actually kind of low level unexpandable but not \dostartproperty which is not intended as user command) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:21:14 +0200 From: Arthur Reutenauer <arthur.reutenauer(a)normalesup.org> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64 To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> Message-ID: <20090514152114.GD26986(a)phare.normalesup.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary > to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current > binary in minimals. Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use SVN, you can even submit the binaries to the repository yourself. Write to Mojca and me if you want an account on the server. Arthur ------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context(a)ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ End of ntg-context Digest, Vol 59, Issue 85 *******************************************

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replacement of "\@." ?
by Ryo Furue 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hi ConTeXt users, I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version of LaTeX's "\@." (which indicates an end-of-sentence period). I can define \def\@{\spacefactor1000} and use it, but if there is an official version I'd like to know. Regards, Ryo

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Re: [NTG-context] \textrules in header
by Robert-André Mauchin 17 May '09

17 May '09

> Hans Hagen wrote (2001-10-18 (13:09)): > > > At 09:40 AM 10/18/2001 +0000, Peter Jander wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I want a line to separate the header from the text body. Now if I > > > say > > > > > > \setupheader[after=\textrule] > > > > > > the line starts in the margin. The length is the width of the text > > > (which is ok). The same happens with a \hairline. > > > Any suggestions on how I can make the line span just the text > > > block? > > > > \setupbackgrounds[header][text] > > [frame=on,topframe=off,leftframe=off,rightframe=off] > > > > \setuplayout[header=18pt,headerdistance=12pt] > > > > \starttext \input tufte \stoptext > > Why doesn't Peter's solution work? It is the first that a new > user will think about (well, I did, at least :-). And the rules > really are something that logically belongs to the header, not > to the background. For example, when you start a new chapter, > and switch off the header on its first page, then you want the > rule to disappear as well, and not to switch it off separately > by changing the state of the background. (By the way, how would > that work? Can you give a \setuphead solution?) > > Marco Hi, Sorry to bump this very old thread, but I've searched a long time to find this solution : \setupheader[text][after=\hrule height 1pt] Hope it helps Bob

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mtxrun problem "HEXsum"
by Henning Hraban Ramm 16 May '09

16 May '09

(Sorry for double-posting, but my first message didn't show up yet, maybe it's lost. This one is corrected anyway.) As far as I skimmed the discussions of the last days, this didn't show up yet: In my LilyPond module I call the program like so: \def\LP{mtxrun --ifchanged="\lily!filename.tmp" --exec bin:lilypond - dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts -ddelete- intermediate-files "\lily!filename.tmp"} \def\PDF{mtxrun --ifchanged="\lily!filename.eps" pstopdf "\lily! filename.eps"} \executesystemcommand{\LP} \executesystemcommand{\PDF} The former definition results in this call: mtxrun --ifchanged="c_whatshallwedo-lilypond-1.tmp" --exec bin:lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts - ddelete-intermediate-files "c_whatshallwedo-lilypond-1.tmp" The .tmp file exists and contains the right LilyPond code. But I get an error like this from the LP call: ############################################## .../texmf/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/mtxrun:1953: attempt to call field 'HEXsum' (a nil value) ############################################## Line 1953 is: return md5.HEXsum(data) Looks like a bug in mtxrun to me. Lua MD5 docs at http://www.keplerproject.org/md5/manual.html#lua_api say, there'd be only "sum" and "sumhexa" methods. Replacing "HEXsum" with "sum" works (.md5 files are written), "sumhexa" gives the same error as above. But it seems LilyPond is called now every time, ignoring the checksum, so simply "sum" at that one place isn't enough. Further, the PDF call gives: MTXrun | file 'c_whatshallwedo-lilypond-1.eps' is unchanged Even if the .eps file doesn't exist at all. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

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New module - mkiv font loading
by Wolfgang Schuster 16 May '09

16 May '09

Hi all, I wrote a new module to load fonts without the need to write typescripts for them -> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/simplefonts/ Wolfgang

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