May 2005 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

RE: [NTG-context] spurious text produced by TABLE
by Idris Samawi Hamid 17 May '05

17 May '05

Hi Hans >===== Original Message From Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> ===== >> TABLE produces a spurious dot in the following (look closely at the center of > >the dot is a division line between your span I replaced \VL with \DC and the dot disappears. There is still something wrong with \DL \DC \DR. Look very closely at the right edge of the attached table: There is a gap between 2 stacked vertical lines instead of one. If you exchange the commented line with the one below it disappears (I suspect that \VL overwrites the \DR). Interestingly, the gap appears to be the same size as the spurious dot-) See also absolute page 42 of the ConTeXt excursion. In the typeset table, to the right of `Table', the same gap appears. (I have not tested your new code yet to see if this resolves that) Thanks as always for your help! Idris % output=pdf interface=en \setuppagenumbering[state=stop] \starttext \setupfloats[location=middle] \placetable [here][tab:sciences]{There is a spurious dot in the big box.} \starttable{|c|c|c|} \HL \VL {test} \VL \TWO{} \VL\FR %\DL \DC \VL\DR \DL \DC \DR \VL {test} \VL \TWO{} \VL\FR \HL \stoptable \stoptext ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Context, LaTeX, or an XML for academic writing?
by Tobias Wolf 17 May '05

17 May '05

> Ask somebody in your field who is really good at TeX for the LaTeX > sources of his/her thesis, > and use them as templates. Spend as little time as possible thinking > about > layout and as much as you can about content. You speak the truth. I really want to avoid that. I do have solid experience with LaTeX and could start right away with it. Considering ConTeXt comes from its clear conceptual advantages. I'm basing the decision on whether someone can point me into a direction and say: "use this, it looks great and you'll be content with it". > You only will have the energy to strive for excellence in layout after > you have > had the satisfaction of creating content worthy of it. I did a presentation before with ConTeXt and exactly that was the painful lesson I learned. Thanks for the advice - Tobias

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Context, LaTeX, or an XML for academic writing?
by Tobias Wolf 17 May '05

17 May '05

Dear NTG-context denizens, today I went to work to make up my mind about whether it would be a good idea to go ahead and produce my BSc. Thesis with ConTeXt. It's clear, I'm very much attracted to it's approach, I do like the syntax and the focus on PDF output (I never used DVI before) et cetera pp. This is my first post to the list and I'm happy that CB just formulated my main requirements. The hard contraints are certainly 2, 3 and 5. I've seen Hrabans' ciee juxtaposition of ConTeXt and LaTeX, and after searching the list I am not sure whether going for a KOMA class wouldn't be better considering that I definitely don't have time develop my own ConTeXt environment this time. I've also seen the MS thesis of Han The Thanh. It's good. But I would need something more suited for natural sciences that accomodates plenty of figures and references. Also I would like to "cloak" my thesis by avoiding Computer Modern. Do ready-made "academic templates" by one of you experts exist - or do you dissuade me from "just using" ConTeXt for for writing academic literature? - Tobias

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unrelated errors
by Jörg Hagmann 17 May '05

17 May '05

Dear list members, I made the following observation and I am wondering whether that is to be expected: After, with the help of this list, I found out how to insert greek strings, I adjusted the .tex file accordingly. But because I used an automatic replacement procedure (in emacs), one of the many replacements turned out "\Greek" instead of "\greek". texexec complained, but I didn't spot the mistake immediately and pressed return. In the resulting pdf file I found the following unrelated errors: 1. One "\inmargin" figure appeared as if the command was "\inothermargin" 2. One "\inothermargin" word appeard "\inmargin" 3. All the references to figures and tables went unrecognised ("??"). After I changed \Greek to \greek, all these errors disappeared. This seems to be the same problem I had earlier, when I used \inmarge instead of \inmargin and my newer setups didn't recognise it: all the references were gone, and reappeared when the mistake was corrected. Cheers, Jörg.

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centering framed boxes
by Idris Samawi Hamid 17 May '05

17 May '05

Dear gang, I need a way to overlay four framed boxes so that each inner box is exactly in the center of its respective outer box. So far I have the following, but careful inspection will show that the boxes are not precisely centered with respect to each other. I could go on by trial and error but I'm sure there is a direct way to do this. The text should also be precisely centered between frames. Thank you in advance! Idris ========================================================= \setupoutput[pdftex]% \setuppagenumbering[state=stop] \starttext \setupfloats[location=middle] \placefigure [here][tab:enclosure]{4 Stages.} { \midaligned{ \framed [width=12\baselineskip,height=12\baselineskip,strut=yes] {\midaligned{Stage 1} \midaligned% {\framed[width=9\baselineskip,height=9\baselineskip,strut=yes] {\midaligned{Stage 2} \midaligned% {\framed[width=6\baselineskip,height=6\baselineskip,strut=yes] {\midaligned{Stage 3} \midaligned% {\framed[width=3\baselineskip,height=3\baselineskip,strut=yes] {\midaligned{Stage 4}} } \midaligned{\null}}% } \midaligned{\null}}% } \midaligned{\null}} } } \stoptext ========================================================= ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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RE: [NTG-context] Hanging punctuation again.
by Idris Samawi Hamid 16 May '05

16 May '05

Hi John, Isn't [thanh] obsolete? See hand-def.tex for details: I think you want [normal], which hangs puntuation ([pure]), the Latin alphabet ([alpha]), and the rest of ascii characters ([extended]). Then you get full hanging. I tested palatino and the following works here: ======================================================= \setupoutput[pdftex]% \usetypescriptfile[type-enc] \usetypescript [serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal] \usetypescript [adobekb] [8r] \usetypescript [palatino][8r] \setupalign [hanging] % NOTE no second argument \setupbodyfont [palatino,12pt] \showframe \starttext \dorecurse{40}{lots of hy\-phen\-a\-tion\hyphen\ } \blank \dorecurse{40}{testing, test; } \stoptext ======================================================= Best Idris >===== Original Message From mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context(a)ntg.nl> ===== >Is the the following kosher? > >\usetypescript [serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [thanh] >\usetypescriptfile[type-enc] > \usetypescript [adobekb] [8r] > \usetypescript [palatino][8r] >\setupalign[hanging][thanh] > \setupbodyfont > [palatino,12pt] ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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footnoting
by Charles Doherty 16 May '05

16 May '05

Dear all, I am trying to set up a layout for part of my daughter's thesis. She has a portion of a long middle English poem to present as an 'edition'. The lines are incremented on every seventh line starting at 302 according to the manuscript she is using. Is there a way to reference words from particular lines using the line number as the footnote number? The first line of the poem is 302 Could the footnote read 302 lande (in bold) : an open grassy space in a forest 305 boures (in bold) : a chamber or dwelling and so on. Could the footnotes be in two columns? I notice that footnotes are ignored if line numbering is on. I am at a loss here. Also \inmargin is ignored also. Any help would be appreciated. I have attached an input file and the resulting pdf. ******************* Charles Doherty, Early Irish History, School of History, John Henry Newman Building, University College Dublin, Belfield, Dublin 4 Tel: +353 1 716 8381

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How to control \hrule width in header & footer
by VnPenguin 15 May '05

15 May '05

Hi all, I'm trying to add \hrule after header and before footer. Here is the testing code: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- \setupheader[after=\hrule] \setupfooter[before=\hrule\blank] \setupheadertexts [text][chapter][section] [section][chapter] \setupfootertexts [text][date][pagenumber][pagenumber][date] \starttext \chapter[ch1]{Toto} \section[sec11]{Sec 11} \input tufte \section[sec12]{Sec 12} \input tufte \stoptext ------------------------------------------------------------------- The result gives me horizontal rules too long. I would like make rule only in "text" location (with the length is \textwidth) not on left and right margins. Anyone could show me how to do that please. Thank you,

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Re: [NTG-context] centering framed boxes
by Idris Samawi Hamid 15 May '05

15 May '05

I forgot about $\vcenter$ (I hardly ever need math mode, so...) The following works for the framed boxes, and the text is well positioned also, but is there a better/more efficient way to center the text between frames? Best Idris ============================================= \setupoutput[pdftex]% \setuppagenumbering[state=stop] \starttext\showstruts \setupfloats[location=middle] \placefigure [here][tab:enclosure]{4 Stages.} { \midaligned{ \framed [width=12\baselineskip,height=12\baselineskip,strut=yes] {\midaligned{\raise.25ex\hbox{Stage 1}} $\vcenter% {\framed[width=9\baselineskip,height=9\baselineskip,strut=yes] {\midaligned{\raise.25ex\hbox{Stage 2}} $\vcenter% {\framed[width=6\baselineskip,height=6\baselineskip,strut=yes] {\midaligned{\raise.25ex\hbox{Stage 3}} $\vcenter% {\framed[width=3\baselineskip,height=3\baselineskip,strut=yes] {\midaligned{\raise.25ex\hbox{Stage 4}}} }$ \midaligned{\null}}% }$ \midaligned{\null}}% }$ \midaligned{\null}} } } \stoptext ============================================ ===============original message============= Dear gang, I need a way to overlay four framed boxes so that each inner box is exactly in the center of its respective outer box. So far I have the following, but careful inspection will show that the boxes are not precisely centered with respect to each other. I could go on by trial and error but I'm sure there is a direct way to do this. The text should also be precisely centered between frames. Thank you in advance! Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Page number disappears after \page[empty]
by Paul Tremblay 15 May '05

15 May '05

My page number disappears for the first page after I issue a \page[empy] command. Here is an example from my file: \page[empty] \part{}\setuppagenumbering[state=stop, conversion=romannumerals]\setuppagenumber[number=3]\setupfootertexts[\vbox {\centerline{\pagenumber{}}\vskip12pt }][][][] \blank[12pt]\testpage[4] The page number appears for subsequent pages. Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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