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Re: [NTG-context] Going crazy with font conversion (diaeresis)!
by Steffen Wolfrum 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Hi Adam, Adam Lindsay <atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote: > Okay, it was trickier than I thought. > But I used the .afm obtained from FontForge conversion, and discarded > the .pfb. > > afm2pl -p `kpsewhich texnansi.enc` HelveticaNeue.afm > pltotf HelveticaNeue > > Because I'm impatient, and wanted a quick test: > \loadmapline[+HelveticaNeue HelveticaNeue " TeXnANSIEncoding > ReEncodeFont " <texnansi.enc <HelveticaNeue.ttf] > \starttext > \definedfont[HelveticaNeue] > TAVAT.Po > T{}A{}V{}A{}T{}.{}P{}o > \stoptext Your result looks promising - but duplicating your way showed me my command line limits: $ afm2pl -p `kpsewhich texnansi.enc` HelveticaNeue.afm afm2pl: fatal: default.lig not found. $ pltotf HelveticaNeue pltotf: HelveticaNeue.pl: No such file or directory As I have never used afm2pl or pltotf the usage above is praobably wrong. Or was my Fontforge export bad? (When I open the AFM exported by FontForge there are no entries for KerningPairs ...) And looking at your test file: where are your ttf and other files in this situation? Steffen

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bug in latest ConTeX
by ishamid 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Dear gang, There is a bug in the latest ConTeXt that affects aleph, particularly \pardir TRT. Needless to say this is an absolute showstopper... Try this: =========================== \pardir TLT test \bye =========================== $>aleph test works fine, but $>texexec --tex=aleph test gives an error: =========================== This is Aleph, Version 3.141592-1.15-2.1-0.0-rc4 (Web2c 7.5.3) \write18 enabled. Copyright (c) 2002--2004 the Aleph task force entering extended mode (test.tex ConTeXt ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.21 int: english mes: english systems : eTeX version 201 -> too old (bugs) language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (c:\CONTEXT\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex color : palette rollover is available ) system : cont-old loaded (c:\CONTEXT\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (c:\CONTEXT\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys loaded (c:\CONTEXT\tex\texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns en->ec:ec->1->2:2 uk->ec:ec->2->2:2 de->texnansi:tex nansi->3->2:2 de->ec:ec->4->2:2 fr->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:2 fr->ec:ec->6->2:2 es->ec:ec->7->2:2 pt->ec:ec->8->2:2 it->texnansi:texnansi->9->2:2 it->ec:ec->1 0->2:2 nl->texnansi:texnansi->11->2:2 nl->ec:ec->12->2:2 cz->il2:il2->13->2:2 c z->ec:ec->14->2:2 sk->il2:il2->15->2:2 sk->ec:ec->16->2:2 pl->pl0:pl0->17->2:2 pl->ec:ec->18->2:2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : test.top loaded (./test.top) ! Undefined control sequence. \pardir #1#2#3->\global \TeXXeTstate \plusone \if #2L\chardef \inlinedirecti... l.1 \pardir TLT =========================== Two more notes: 1. There is a complaint that : eTeX version 201 -> too old (bugs) 2. There is no aleph.ini file in mswincontext so I had to import it from \TeXLive to make the format. Also manfnt is missing in mswincontext; should not the minimal context installation also support the plain format? Thnx as always Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: [NTG-context] Going crazy with font conversion (macron)!
by Steffen Wolfrum 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Adam Lindsay <atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote: > It means that there's no \omacron in texnansi (or the other major > western encodings used for TeX fonts), and you're asking ConTeXt to > synthesise it from an 'o' and a 'textmacron'. It wouldn't surprise me > one bit to hear that the Mac handles combining accents differently from > TeX, and so the converted font's metrics is going to result in mistakes > in building text accents. > > Interpretation: you're using artificial test cases to verify the font > installation. Stick to what you need and know, and you'll probably end > up with a character in the encoding. No! I do need \omacron as I am typesetting the German translation of a Indian Yoga book ... with lots of Sanskrit (in latin alphabet plus all those diacritical accents)! > If you do need \omacron and the like, then you could hand-tune macros > that accommodate the specific font--see Idris's recent thread on > accents, or you could cook up an "expert" encoding (since MacOSX's > Helvetica does include that character) like Vit, and switch to that > encoding when you need the character, or you could even go with a big > unicode font install. I'll be documenting that process sometime. That would be quite interesting. (But for now I leave this workshop and use the HelveticaNeue to go on.) Thank you, Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Going crazy with font conversion (macron)!
by Steffen Wolfrum 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Adam Lindsay <atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote: > Hum. I haven't tried to replicate that here, but that looks like it > might be an encoding problem: ConTeXt doesn't know that you're using a > texnansi encoding, so it synthesises the characters using the > definitions in enco-def. Is the above file the only way you tested it? No, also with other conversion and in other files it is the same. > Does this help? > > \loadmapline[+Helvetica Helvetica " TeXnANSIEncoding ReEncodeFont " > <texnansi.enc <Helvetica.pfb] > \definefontsynonym[texnansi-Helvetica][Helvetica][encoding=texnansi] > > \starttext > \definedfont[texnansi-Helvetica] > R\d{o} R{\=o} R\~o > \stoptext Well, then the tilde moves in its right position. But the macron stays left. A font wizard knows what that means?! Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Going crazy with font conversion (diaeresis)!
by Steffen Wolfrum 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Hallo Adam, Adam Lindsay <atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote: > ...which I copied to the working directory. It should be included in > gwTeX. > > Running the command above should do it. > > > $ pltotf HelveticaNeue > > pltotf: HelveticaNeue.pl: No such file or directory > > The fatal error above didn't generate a .pl file, so the next command > wasn't able to use it. > > > As I have never used afm2pl or pltotf the usage above is praobably > > wrong. > > Or was my Fontforge export bad? > > > > And looking at your test file: where are your ttf and other files in > > this situation? > > > All in the working directory. I could then rename, put them in the > tex/fonts/ tree, and rehash, but that's it down to the essence. > > Here's another goodie: > ... Now it works. Very nice and clear ways to get it. But both goodies don't work with OSX's Helvetica.dfont If you try it with the .ttf you'll get: Error: pdfetex (file Helvetica.ttf): can't find table `OS/2' ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file is not finished! And if instead you use the .pfb then you'll get the misplaced macrons and tildes that I've reported. Just try this: \loadmapline[+Helvetica Helvetica " TeXnANSIEncoding ReEncodeFont " <texnansi.enc <Helvetica.pfb] \starttext \definedfont[Helvetica] TAVAT.Po T{}A{}V{}A{}T{}.{}P{}o \showfont[Helvetica] R\d{o} R{\=o} R\~o \page\showcharacters \stoptext I know the HelveticaNeue is more beautiful ... but nevertheless it would be interesting why there is the above error (and how it can be solved). Thanks for your help and support! Steffen

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how to use Times Roman font
by Xue Ruini 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Hello everyone, I am a newbie to ConTeXt. I have no idea how to use the Times Roman font in ConTeXt. (in Latex, just \usepackage{times}) I found something like this: (http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html) % Times font \usetypescript[berry][ec] % or [8r] \setupbodyfont[pos] \starttext hellow, world \stoptext but an error occours: --------------------------------------------- kpathsea: Running mktexmf utmr8t ! I can't find file `utmr8t'. <*> ...:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input utmr8t Please type another input file name ! Emergency stop. <*> ...:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input utmr8t Transcript written on mfput.log. mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input utmr8t' failed. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ! Font \*12ptrmtf*=utmr8t at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. <to be read again> \relax \xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier \let \localrelativefontsiz... \fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname \tryingfontfalse \fi <inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr... \synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies \relax \fi \ifskipfontchar... <argument> \getvalue {\@style@ \fontstyle } \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if... ... l.2 \setupbodyfont[pos] ? ---------------------------------------------- I want to know what I can do with it. Thanks! Leo

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Re: [NTG-context] Going crazy with font conversion (diaeresis)!
by Steffen Wolfrum 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

> (When I open the AFM exported by FontForge there are no entries for >KerningPairs ...) Nonsense! I opened the wrong file (as I said: going crazy...) Sorry, Steffen

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images on wiki?
by Paul Tremblay 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Is there a way to upload images (png) to the wiki? Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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Re: [NTG-context] Going crazy with font conversion (diaeresis)!
by Steffen Wolfrum 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Hi Adam, Adam Lindsay <atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote: > I'd also ask why, if you have the superior Helvetica Neue working, > you're trying to get the plain, no-oblique Helvetica going as well. I > see it like the difference between LM and the original CM conversion... > the later interpretation is far superior, and much more subtly drawn. Yes it is, of course! But by using HelveticaNeue as is, there is no kerning information included. The result is quite poor, as you can imagine. And as I don't know how to set a proper kerning (in reasonable time) AND how to get it available in ConTeXt I see no other alternative than using Helvetica and use the kerning information that is included in Adobes afm/tfm/vf files (being part of tetex). But if someone want to show me the path to proper TeX kerning I'd also prefer HelveticaNeue, no doubt! Steffen

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How do I create a table like this in ConTeXt?
by Gerben Wierda 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

In LaTeX, a tabular environment produces a box which then can be part of another tabular. I tried to do the same with ConTeXt, but failed. Can someone tell me how to produce http://mail.rna.nl/~gerben/latex-table.pdf with ConTeXt? Thanks, G

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