March 2005 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

Re: [NTG-context] Re: TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > Patrick Gundlach wrote: > > > do you still want me to try this? > > not if we assume that indeed perl hashes are organized differently per run > > so, for the moment let stick to the texutil sort patch > > thanks for testing; i'll post a new beta later > > Hans 2 runs not 8: That would mean that all Mac-ConTeXters won 75% TeX-time by your investigation (how many hours/days/years this might be ... ) Thank you Patrick, thank you Hans! Steffen

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\definelayout question
by Paul Tremblay 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Thanks Adam for the suggestions on the wiki page. You point out that I can use \definelayout for odd and even pages. I assume I can use this command in place of \setuplayout? I had a problem using \definelayout. I found that I had to use a \setuplayout before my text, or the first page would not get formatted. Is the ConTeXt code right below? Also, is there any way to change the layout for the first page? \definelayout[first] [.... Thanks Paul \part{} \definelayout[odd][ topspace=.5in, % the space at the very top of the page backspace=3in, % the space in the gutter header=2in, % the space for headers footer=2in, % the space for footers leftmargin=1in, % the space for margin notes rightmargin=1.5in, % the space for right margin notes width=3in, % the width of the body text height=7in % the height of the body text ] \definelayout[even][ topspace=.5in, % the space at the very top of the page backspace=3in, % the space in the gutter header=2in, % the space for headers footer=2in, % the space for footers leftmargin=1in, % the space for margin notes rightmargin=1.5in, % the space for right margin notes width=3in, % the width of the body text height=4in % the height of the body text ] \setuplayout % the header for the first page of part 1 \definetext[partStart1][header][\vbox{Chapter 1 \vskip5pt Author}] \setuphead[part][header=partStart1] -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: [OS X TeX] TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > After playing a bit with minimal examples I think the "bug" has to do > > with the project structure. Here comes a very minimal example that > > *still* runs 8 times under Mac (2 times under Win)! Why? > > > > Given a main TEST.tex file and besides that a PARTS folder containing > > the files ONE.tex and TWO.tex : > > > > > > TEST.tex > > \startproject TEST > > \startfrontmatter > > \component PARTS/ONE.tex > > \component PARTS/TWO.tex > > \stopfrontmatter > > \stopproject > > > > > > ONE.tex > > \startcomponent ONE > > text > > \stopcomponent > > > > TWO.tex > > \startcomponent TWO > > text > > \stopcomponent > > this runs normal here; (but your big zip didn't as mentioned in a >previous mail) > > Hans How many runs do you have under Mac OS X? And what is your setup for Mac: Gerben's tex.ii2 plus your recent cont-tmf.zip? Steffen

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FO and ConTeXt: my new wiki page
by Paul Tremblay 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

I have a new page on the wiki http://contextgarden.net/Page_layout This page is my best effort at describing how someone who is used to FO would do the same thing in ConTeXt. The page is just one of many I hope to write on FO and ConTeXt. I'm sure I got some things wrong, so any help would be appreciated. One thing I was not able to do was customize headers and footers for blank pages that end a part (such as a chapter). I need to include a section in my page describing my inability to do this. Thanks Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry(a)iglou.com * ************************

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Unexpected changes with pdfeTeX 1.20 (?)
by Steffen Wolfrum 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hi, while looking closer at the result of typesetting an older (Nov. 2004) document with todays pdfeTeX and context stuff I noticed that the layout of my TOC changed: Normally I write all setups in a SetupEnvironment file that is loaded at the beginning of a project structure. Like this: \startproject WLTHR_1 \environment SetupEnvironment_WLTHR \startfrontmatter \component Kapitel/Titelei \component Kapitel/Vorwort \completecontent \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter \component Kapitel/Kap_1 \component Kapitel/Kap_2 \component Kapitel/Kap_3 \component Kapitel/Kap_4 \component Kapitel/Kap_5 \stopbodymatter \startbackmatter \component Kapitel/Katalog \component Kapitel/Literatur \stopbackmatter \stopproject But as in SetupEnvironment also \setupindenting is set, now the TOC gets this indenting too! Once (2004, before pdfeTeX 1.20 ?) this didn't affect the generated \completecontent - only the real \component files. Is this change known? Are there more differences like this, so one knows what to look for when typesetting older documents with new TeX (ConTeXt?) files? Steffen A minimal test looks like this: \starttext \showframe \showgrid \definecombinedlist[content] [chapter,section][level=section] \setupindenting[30pt]% <---------------- \completecontent% <--------------- %\setupindenting[30pt]% <---------------- \chapter{Kapitel} text \section{Unterkapitel} text \section{Unterkapitel} text \stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: [OS X TeX] TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > TEST.tex > > \startproject TEST > > \startfrontmatter > > \component PARTS/ONE.tex > > \component PARTS/TWO.tex > > \stopfrontmatter > > \stopproject > > > > > > ONE.tex > > \startcomponent ONE > > text > > \stopcomponent > > > > TWO.tex > > \startcomponent TWO > > text > > \stopcomponent > > > > > > > > The Mac output (plus the Win output) were unfortunately bounced back - > > Message body is too big: 59628 bytes with a limit of 40 KB. > > texexec test --pdf --runs=1 > copy test.tui 1.tui > texexec test --pdf --runs=2 > copy test.tui 2.tui > texexec test --pdf --runs=3 > copy test.tui 3.tui > texexec test --pdf > copy test.tui n.tui > > where do the tui's difer? > > Hans They don't. They are all the same. But nevertheless texexec test --pdf ran 8 runs ... Steffen

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Fixed spaces & overfullrule
by Mats Broberg 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Dear listmembers, I have two questions tonight: 1: Is it possible to define and then use different kind of fixed and non-breaking spaces in ConTeXt? For something I am working with I need 1/8th of an em, 1/4th of an em, and 1/3rd of an em - but would ideally want to be able to define any kind of fraction of an em. 2: Is it possible to have the overfull rules printed out in the margins? That way one can flip through the pages fast and instantly get an idea of the quality of the typesetting. Best regards, Mats Broberg

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: [OS X TeX] TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > and the tuo files? > > texexec --pdf test.tex --runs=2 > copy test.tuo test-2.tuo > > texexec --pdf test.tex --runs=3 > copy test.tuo test-3.tuo > > texexec --pdf test.tex --runs=4 > copy test.tuo test-4.tuo test-3.tuo and test-4.tuo are identical (via openssl md5 *.tui - as Gerben explained) : % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Commands % \thisissectionseparator{:} \thisisutilityversion{2003.07.19} \thisisbytesequence{} \initializevariable\usedcolorchannels{} \initializevariable\lastpage{1} \initializevariable\lastpagenumber{1} \initializevariable\totalnofMPgraphics{0} \initializevariable\totalnofpositions{0} \initializevariable\totalnofparbackgrounds{0} \initializevariable\currentstrategypass{1} % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Registers % % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Synonyms % % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Files % % PARTS/TWO.tex (2) % test (2) % PARTS/ONE.tex (2) % % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Status % % embedded files : 3 (0 errors) % synonym entries : 0 (0 errors) % register entries : 0 (0 errors) % metapost graphics : 0 % position commands : 0 (not used) % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / System % AND test-2.tuo and test-n.tuo (texexec --pdf test.tex) are identical : % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Commands % \thisissectionseparator{:} \thisisutilityversion{2003.07.19} \thisisbytesequence{} \initializevariable\usedcolorchannels{} \initializevariable\lastpage{1} \initializevariable\lastpagenumber{1} \initializevariable\totalnofMPgraphics{0} \initializevariable\totalnofpositions{0} \initializevariable\totalnofparbackgrounds{0} \initializevariable\currentstrategypass{1} % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Registers % % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Synonyms % % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Files % % PARTS/ONE.tex (2) % test (2) % PARTS/TWO.tex (2) % % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / Status % % embedded files : 3 (0 errors) % synonym entries : 0 (0 errors) % register entries : 0 (0 errors) % metapost graphics : 0 % position commands : 0 (not used) % % TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 / System % Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: [OS X TeX] TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

... I meant: maybe this is too old? c \thisisutilityversion{2003.07.19} Steffen Gerben Wierda <Gerben.Wierda(a)rna.nl> wrote: > > Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > >> texexec test --pdf --runs=1 > >> copy test.tui 1.tui > >> texexec test --pdf --runs=2 > >> copy test.tui 2.tui > >> texexec test --pdf --runs=3 > >> copy test.tui 3.tui > >> texexec test --pdf > >> copy test.tui n.tui > >> > >> where do the tui's difer? > >> > >> Hans > > > > > > They don't. They are all the same. > > But nevertheless texexec test --pdf ran 8 runs ... > > - How do you check that they are the same? (cmp command?) ... > G I opened them and they wrote all the same: c \thisissectionseparator{:} c \thisisutilityversion{2003.07.19} c \thisisbytesequence{} f b {test} f b {PARTS/ONE.tex} f e {PARTS/ONE.tex} f b {PARTS/TWO.tex} f e {PARTS/TWO.tex} c \initializevariable\usedcolorchannels{} f e {test} c \initializevariable\lastpage{1} c \initializevariable\lastpagenumber{1} c \initializevariable\totalnofMPgraphics{0} c \initializevariable\totalnofpositions{0} c \initializevariable\totalnofparbackgrounds{0} c \initializevariable\currentstrategypass{1} Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: [OS X TeX] TeX run : 8
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Gerben Wierda <Gerben.Wierda(a)rna.nl> wrote: > > Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > >> texexec test --pdf --runs=1 > >> copy test.tui 1.tui > >> texexec test --pdf --runs=2 > >> copy test.tui 2.tui > >> texexec test --pdf --runs=3 > >> copy test.tui 3.tui > >> texexec test --pdf > >> copy test.tui n.tui > >> > >> where do the tui's difer? > >> > >> Hans > > > > > > They don't. They are all the same. > > But nevertheless texexec test --pdf ran 8 runs ... > > - How do you check that they are the same? (cmp command?) ... > G I opened them and they wrote all the same: c \thisissectionseparator{:} c \thisisutilityversion{2003.07.19} c \thisisbytesequence{} f b {test} f b {PARTS/ONE.tex} f e {PARTS/ONE.tex} f b {PARTS/TWO.tex} f e {PARTS/TWO.tex} c \initializevariable\usedcolorchannels{} f e {test} c \initializevariable\lastpage{1} c \initializevariable\lastpagenumber{1} c \initializevariable\totalnofMPgraphics{0} c \initializevariable\totalnofpositions{0} c \initializevariable\totalnofparbackgrounds{0} c \initializevariable\currentstrategypass{1} Steffen

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