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TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=40000] error
by Samuel Pelletier 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

Hi, I have a long (4333 lines) natural table document that refuse to compose. Initialy, I had an "TeX capacity exceeded" message for "hash size" but it seems that I figured how to bypass it by changing the texmf.cnf file. Now I have a "! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=40000]." error and I have not figured out how to increase this parameter. The only place with a similar name is inside the texmf.cnf file but changing it does not : save_size = 150000 % was 50000 % for saving values outside current group I issue a texexec --make --all but the message is still there. Is there any way to get rid of this one? > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=40000]. > \setevalue ...andafter \edef \csname #1\endcsname > > \settblrow ...3->\setevalue {\@@tblprefix #1:#2:r} > {#3} > \parseTD ...tblrow \maximumrow \currentcol \tblny > \edef \celltag > {{\maximumr... > <argument> ...TR \bTR \bTD 14506 \eTD \bTD HA\ETC. > > \doTABLEsection ...ameters [\@@tbl \@@tbl ][#1]}#2 > \let > \setupTBLsection \relax > > \eTABLE ...lhdnxlines \!!zerocount }\the \TBLbody > \the \TBLfoot > \removeunwan... > l.4377 \eTABLE ______________________________________________________________________ Samuel Pelletier, ing. Vice président Cyber Cat Inc Phone: 418-654-9388 ext. 223 4530, boul Hamel FAX: 418-654-0481 Quebec, Qc, G1P 2J9 email: sam(a)cybercat.ca CANADA web: www.cybercat.ca

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Re: Ancient Greek (bodyfont conflict?)
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > >\usetypescriptfile[type-agaramondmini.tex] > >\usetypescript[AGaramondOldStyle] > >\setupencoding[default=ec] > >\setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.2pt] > >% whithout these four line the greek was ok. now its empty. > > > > > i guess that the 10.2 is giving problems since that size is not defined in greek, so why not use 10pt? > > Hans Ah, right - that's the problem! And now again I can also use the much faster \def\typescriptfiles{type-agaramondmini.tex} instead of \usetypescriptfile[type-agaramondmini.tex] Great. Thanks for your patience! Steffen P.S. Could you - please (!) - also have a look at the "Footnotes in margin" thread?

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Re: Ancient Greek (bodyfont conflict?)
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

I can't find anything wrong (for without greek it works fine). Maybe you want to have a short look: This is my test document: \usetypescriptfile[type-agaramondmini.tex] \usetypescript[AGaramondOldStyle] \setupencoding[default=ec] \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.2pt] % whithout these four line the greek was ok. now its empty. \usemodule[greek] \mainlanguage[english] \starttext We can easily use plain English for normal text, and then switch to greek when we want; as a first try we type the lower and upper case 26 letters of the latin alphabet and see how they come out in greek: \startgreek a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z \par A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z \stopgreek As it can be observed, some uppercase letters have strange outcomes; also, j gives \greek{j} and c gives the end-of-word sigma \greek{c}; interestingly, s gives either the normal sigma or the end-of-word one, depending on whether it's at the end of the word or not: \greek{satrapws}. \stoptext And this is my typescriptfile type-agaramondmini.tex: \starttypescript [serif] [agaramond-oldstyle] [ec] \definefontsynonym [AGaramond-Regular] [padr9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [AGaramond-Italic] [padri9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [AGaramond-Bold] [padb9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [AGaramond-BoldItalic] [padbi9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [AGaramond-Semibold] [pads9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [AGaramond-SemiboldItalic] [padsi9e] [encoding=ec] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [agaramond-oldstyle] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [AGaramond-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [AGaramond-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [AGaramond-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [AGaramond-BoldItalic] \definefontsynonym [SemiBold] [AGaramond-Semibold] \definefontsynonym [SemiBoldItalic] [AGaramond-SemiboldItalic] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [AGaramondOldStyle] \definetypeface [AGaramondOldStyle] [rm] [serif] [agaramond-oldstyle] [default] [encoding=ec] \stoptypescript Sorry, but what should be changed? Steffen

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Re: Ancient Greek (bodyfont conflict?)
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

Sure, THIS one works. But what I was asking for was how to change the font for all the english text (all the non-greek)? My attempt was to start the document with: \usetypescriptfile[type-agaramond.tex] \usetypescript[AGaramondOldStyle] \setupencoding[default=ec] \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.2pt] (... and then continue as you have pasted below) But this gives the error I had sent. I hope the problem is clearer now. Can you help to find a solution? Steffen Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------040503070109050506040106 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > It works quite well here. I attached the files that i have on my machine. > > Hans ... > % The following sample file was submitted to the \CONTEXT\ > % mailing list by Giuseppe Bilotta, along with the right > % typescripts. > > % already loaded: \usemodule[greek] > > \mainlanguage[english] > > \starttext > > We can easily use plain English for normal text, and then switch > to greek when we want; as a first try we type the lower and > upper case 26 letters of the latin alphabet and see how they come > out in greek: > > \startgreek > a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z \par > A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z > \stopgreek > > As it can be observed, some uppercase letters have strange > outcomes; also, j gives \greek{j} and c gives the > end-of-word sigma \greek{c}; interestingly, s gives either the > normal sigma or the end-of-word one, depending on whether it's at > the end of the word or not: \greek{satrapws}. > > Of course we can use the various diacritical signs: accents > (\greek{`a, 'a, ~a}), breathings (\greek{<r, >w, a"}) and > subscribed iotas (\greek{a|, h|, w|}) (these last are pretty ugly in my > opinion); observe how they automatically get the correct position > with uppercase letters: (\greek{`A, 'A, ~A, <A, >A, A|}). > > Can the thing be used for serious work? > > \startgreek > >>'Andra moi >'ennepe, Mo~usa, pol'utropon, >'os m'ala poll`a\hfill\break > pl'agqjh, >epe`i Tro'ihs <er`on ptol'iejron >'eperse;\hfill\break > poll~wn d" >anjr'wpwn >'iden >'astea ka`i n'oon >'egnw,\hfill\break > poll`a d" <'o g" >en p'ontw| p'ajen >'algea <`on kat`a jum'on,\hfill\break > >>arn'umenos <'hn te yuq`hn ka`i n'oston <eta'irwn. > \stopgreek > > \stoptext

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Re: Ancient Greek (bodyfont conflict?)
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

... actually it's the last line causing the problem: \usetypescriptfile[type-agaramond.tex] \usetypescript[AGaramondOldStyle] \setupencoding[default=ec] \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.2pt] % <- Is there an other way to define a normal bodyfont plus using the greek module? Steffen

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Re: Ancient Greek (bodyfont conflict?)
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

Hans Hagen <pragma(a)wxs.nl> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >In "s-grk-00.tex" is defined "\switchtobodyfont[cbgreek]". > >So why doesn't it work to define a body font for the normal AND use this module for switching to greek? > > > > > does > > texexec --mode=demo --pdf x-grk-00 > > work? > > >Steffen > > > > > >P.S. Please have a look at this wellknown example. > >With the first four lines added the greek parts get empty: > > > > > > > >\def\typescriptfiles{type-agaramond.tex} > > > > > \usetypescriptfile[type-agaramond.tex] > > otherwise you loose everyhting else > > Hans Does it work on your system (with an other typescript of course)? If I change \def\typescriptfiles{type-agaramond.tex} to \usetypescriptfile[type-agaramond.tex] I get the error log you can see below. If I'd comment the first four lines it works fine (so the greek module works, right?). Steffen TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : TEST output : pdftex interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx) entering extended mode (./TEST.tex{/Users/steffen/Library/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2004.8.15 fmt: 2004.8.29 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! color : palette rollover is available system (E-TEX) : [line 567] system (E-TEX) : [line 622] (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-loc.tex)) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : TEST.top loaded (./TEST.top specials : loading definition file tpd (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex specials : loading definition file fdf (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex <unprotect 3> <unprotect 4> system (E-TEX) : [line 2253] \ifcsname <protect 4> <protect 3>) specials : fdf loaded <unprotect 3> <protect 3>) specials : fdf,tpd loaded ) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex) bodyfont : unknown variant AGaramondOldStyle bodyfont : bodyfont 7.1pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 7.1pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 8.1pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 8.1pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 6.1pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 6.1pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 12.2pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 12.2pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 10.2pt is defined (can better be done global) bodyfont : bodyfont 10.2pt is defined (can better be done global) system : macros of module greek loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/s-grk-00.tex fonts : [all] [cbgreek] [] (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/type-cbg.tex fonts : [cbgreek] [rm] [serif] [cb-greek] / ec fonts : [map] [ec] [] (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/type-cbg.tex) fonts : [serif,map] [cb-greek] [name,default,ec,special] (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/type-cbg.tex) fonts : [serif] [cb-greek] [size] (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/type-cbg.tex))) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo) (./TEST.tuo)kpathsea: Running mktextfm GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map source abbreviation G for GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal. /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fontname/special.map? mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.4.5) kpathsea: Running mktexmf GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal ! I can't find file `GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal'. <*> ...opmode; input GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal Please type another input file name ! Emergency stop. <*> ...opmode; input GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal Transcript written on mfput.log. mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal' failed. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. fonts : needs map file: ec-base.map fonts : needs map file: cbgreek.map fonts : needs map file: ec-public-lm.map fonts : needs map file: original-base.map systems : begin file TEST at line 16 ! Font \*cbgreek10.2ptrmtf*:=GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal at 10.2pt not loadab le: Metric (TFM) file not found. <to be read again> \let \xxdododefinefont ... {#4}\newfontidentifier \let \localrelativefontsize \de... \fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname \tryingfontfalse \fi <inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr... \synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies \relax \fi \ifskipfontchar... <argument> \getvalue {\@style@ \fontstyle } \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if... ... l.23 \startgreek ?

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Ancient Greek (bodyfont conflict?)
by Steffen Wolfrum 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

Hi, In "s-grk-00.tex" is defined "\switchtobodyfont[cbgreek]". So why doesn't it work to define a body font for the normal AND use this module for switching to greek? Steffen P.S. Please have a look at this wellknown example. With the first four lines added the greek parts get empty: \def\typescriptfiles{type-agaramond.tex} \usetypescript[AGaramondOldStyle] \setupencoding[default=ec] \setupbodyfont[AGaramondOldStyle,10.2pt] % The following sample file was submitted to the \CONTEXT\ % mailing list by Giuseppe Bilotta, along with the right % typescripts. \usemodule[greek] \mainlanguage[english] \starttext We can easily use plain English for normal text, and then switch to greek when we want; as a first try we type the lower and upper case 26 letters of the latin alphabet and see how they come out in greek: \startgreek a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z \par A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z \stopgreek As it can be observed, some uppercase letters have strange outcomes; also, j gives \greek{j} and c gives the end-of-word sigma \greek{c}; interestingly, s gives either the normal sigma or the end-of-word one, depending on whether it's at the end of the word or not: \greek{satrapws}. Of course we can use the various diacritical signs: accents (\greek{`a, 'a, ~a}), breathings (\greek{<r, >w, a"}) and subscribed iotas (\greek{a|, h|, w|}) (these last are pretty ugly in my opinion); observe how they automatically get the correct position with uppercase letters: (\greek{`A, 'A, ~A, <A, >A, A|}). Can the thing be used for serious work? \startgreek >>'Andra moi >'ennepe, Mo~usa, pol'utropon, >'os m'ala poll`a\hfill\break pl'agqjh, >epe`i Tro'ihs <er`on ptol'iejron >'eperse;\hfill\break poll~wn d" >anjr'wpwn >'iden >'astea ka`i n'oon >'egnw,\hfill\break poll`a d" <'o g" >en p'ontw| p'ajen >'algea <`on kat`a jum'on,\hfill\break >>arn'umenos <'hn te yuq`hn ka`i n'oston <eta'irwn. \stopgreek \stoptext

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\defineitemgroup
by Nikolai Weibull 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

\defineitemgroup is, excuse my rage, fucking messed up. I have \defineitemgroup [algorithmio] [levels=1] \setupalgorithmio [5*broad, packed] [symstyle=slanted] This does not affect the rendering of \starttext \startalgorithmio \sym{Input:} ... \sym{Output:} ... \stopalgorithmio \stoptext Why, oh why, is this so. I've just wasted two hours trying to figure it out, and I'm a bit tired of it. Update (1 minute after finishing above): ARGH! Just realized it now. I'm so stupid for not figuring this out sooner. The level of the itemgroup must be given!!! OMG... Please Hans, when you get the time, update the documentation for core-itm.tex. Anyway, it should be \setupalgorithmio [1] [5*broad, packed] [symstyle=slanted] The same thus goes for \setupitemize if anyone runs into unforseen trouble with it. nikolai -- ::: name: Nikolai Weibull :: aliases: pcp / lone-star / aka ::: ::: born: Chicago, IL USA :: loc atm: Gothenburg, Sweden ::: ::: page: www.pcppopper.org :: fun atm: gf,lps,ruby,lisp,war3 ::: main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);}

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alpha version low level english
by Hans Hagen 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Hi, I uploaded the upcoming release, http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/alpha This version is low level english (commands, keywords, values). It is possible that some functionality is not working, but as far as i can see most should work as expected. If you find low level dutch in the source code, (1) if it is dramatic, let me know asap, (2) if it's just an indirect command, collect them first. For Taco: you need to adapt your m-* modules! (I'll send you a script that will make it a bit more comfortable, but some manual work may be needed). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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metafun manual
by Hans Hagen 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Hi, I'm going to 'finish' the metafun manual, so if you have topics that need to be covered ... Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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