September 2003 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

My first week with ConTeXt
by Andreas Gschwendtner 12 Sep '03

12 Sep '03

Hello everyone, I have been using ConTeXt and reading this list silently for a week now. I am quite impressed by the features and the flexibility ConTeXt has to offer -- yet, I am still a little bit anxious to give up all the things I have got used to in LaTeX. What I am trying to do at the moment, is convert some LaTeX documents to ConTeXt. Some things have indeed been easier than expected, while others seem to be a lot of work and can be quite troublesome... I am sorry if anything I am about to ask has already been covered here or if the answer is in the manuals -- at the beginning it is sometimes quite hard to look in the right places. -- At first, a general request rather than a question: Learning ConTeXt would be _much_ easier if there were more example files around. At some points the manuals are hard to understand and some things are not even covered. I learned a lot in LaTeX, too, by taking some example file and modifying it to suit my needs. A read somewhere (although I can't remember where) that the sources to all documents available from pragma-ade.com "are or will be made public". This would be great! In the meantime I would appreciate any links to examples. How do other ConTeXt users realize Styles for their index and their bibliography? How do they set up headers, footers, chapter and section headings, pagestyles, etc... -- \placefigure (caption) question #1: For some of my figures I want to have captions _below_ the figure, but the caption should be wider than the figure itself (if the figure is 0.5\textwidth and centered, I want the caption to be 0.9\textwidth or even \textwidth). How do I do that? -- \placefigure (caption) question #2: Some of my figures are quite tall (= \textheight), so the caption cannot be below or above, but has to be _beside_ the figure. I want those figures to appear *left* on *odd* pages and *right* on *even* pages, and the captions vice versa. I don't want to have the caption in the outer margin, but rather the width of the figure plus the width of the caption should be equal to \textwidth. Thanks for any hints! Andreas

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Crop marks and Lightning Source
by John Culleton 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

A popular POD printer in the USA called LIghtning Source wants the finished page to be centered on an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper in the pdf file submitted to them. This can be done with \definepapersze and \setuppapersize. However this technique shows cropmarks and Lighting Source specifies "no crop marks." Question 1: How do I eliminate cropmarks yet still have the smaller page centered on the larger page? Second, my customer pointed out to me that on my finished pdf the cropmarks do not exactly delineate the specific size (in this case 5.5 x 8.5 inches.) On my laser printer they define a space about 1/32 inch shorter than the nominal dimension in both vertical and horizontal directions. This is about 2 or 3 points. Question 2. Why are the cropmarks apparently imprecise? All hints appreciated, as always. -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ____________________________________________________________ Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: clubpenalty/widowpenalty ignored - a bug?
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Hi Patrick, No, it didn't work. So please find a one-page example below. Thanks for your replies, Steffen Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> wrote: > Hello Steffen, > > Steffen Wolfrum <xmailings(a)estfiles.de> writes: > > > Is this wrong - or is it a bug in ConTeXt? > > this looks fine. Play with > > \brokenpenalty=0 > > and if this does not work, please post a small example showing your problem. > > > Patrick \mainlanguage[de] \enableregime[mac] \setupbodyfont[9pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=3.5ex] \setupencoding[default=ec] \definepapersize[Gross][width=20.2cm,height=26.7cm] \setuppapersize[Gross][A4] \setuplayout [topspace=2cm,header=30pt,footer=0cm,footerdistance=0cm,margin=2cm,leftmargindistance=15pt,rightmargindistance=15pt,backspace=3cm,width=13.7cm,location=middle,marking=on,grid=no]%0.6782178217821782\paperwidth \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location={header,marginedge}] \setupfootnotedefinition[location=left,width=2\bodyfontsize,after={\blank[4pt]}] \setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[0pt]},after={\blank[3*line]}] \clubpenalty=10000%einzelne erste Zeilen unten \widowpenalty=10000%einzelne letzte Zeilen oben \displaywidowpenalty=10000 \brokenpenalty=0 \starttext \title{Einleitung} Bis in die j\"{u}ngste Vergangenheit hat der Name {\it Schmoll genannt Eisenwerth} im kunsthistorischen Zusammenhang immer wieder zu Verwechslungen gef\"{u}hrt, denn der aus dem sp\"{a}teren Mittelalter stammende Doppelname wird von mehreren Pers\"{o}nlichkeiten gef\"{u}hrt. Zu nennen sind zun\"{a}chst die vier im letzten Viertel des 19. Jahrhunderts geborenen Br\"{u}der, Josef Adolf (1877-1914), Karl (1879-1948), Gustav (1881-1916) und Fritz (1883-1963), die S\"{o}hne von Anton Adolph Schmoll genannt Eisenwerth (1834-1918), einem geb\"{u}rtigen Saarl\"{a}nder, der als versierter Br\"{u}cken- und Wasserbau-Konstrukteur erst in Frankreich, dann in Wien zu Ansehen gelangte. Nachdem der \"{A}lteste, der Ingenieur Josef Adolf, sowie der Zweitj\"{u}ngste, der Architekt Gustav, als Soldaten im Ersten Weltkrieg fielen, hatte sich besonders der Maler, Grafiker und Kunstgewerbler Karl schon fr\"{u}h einen Namen machen k\"{o}nnen, weshalb dieser in Fachkreisen bisher als der bekanntere der Schmoll-Br\"{u}der galt, bedingt auch durch seine Jahrzehnte w\"{a}hrende Lehrt\"{a}tigkeit in der Architektur-Fakult\"{a}t der Technischen Hochschule Stuttgart (1907-1946), der er 1927/29 auch als Rektor (und Jubil\"{a}umsrektor) vorstand.\footnote{Zu Karl SvE. vgl.: Clementine Schack von Wittenau: Karl Schmoll von Eisenwerth. Malerei, Graphik, Glaskunst. Ausstellungskatalog (Gem\"{a}ldegalerie Dachau, Museum K\"{u}nstlerkolonie Darmstadt, Kreismuseum Zons). Stuttgart 1995 (im Folgenden zitiert als: A.Kat. Stuttgart 1995). Wegen der pers\"{o}nlichen Beziehungen KSvE's war die Wanderausstellung au{\sz}erdem im saarl\"{a}ndischen St.Wendel (St\"{a}dtisches Museum) und im Ober\"{o}sterreichischen Landesmuseum Linz zu sehen. Durch diese Monographie, in der auch FSgE. erw\"{a}hnt wird, kam der Gedanke, sich im Rahmen der vorliegenden Arbeit eingehender mit FSgE. zu befassen.} Mit einer zeitlebens geradezu bescheidenen und zur\"{u}ckhaltenden Wesensart stand dagegen der vier Jahre j\"{u}ngere Fritz Schmoll insbesondere w\"{a}hrend seiner fr\"{u}hen Schaffenszeit etwas im Schatten des \"{a}lteren Bruders, der mit seinen weiterreichenden Beziehungen die berufliche Laufbahn des J\"{u}ngeren zu unterst\"{u}tzen suchte. In M\"{u}nchen, das um 1900 im Kunsthandwerk f\"{u}hrend war, engagierte sich Fritz Schmoll im Sinne der hier von Hermann Obrist gegr\"{u}ndeten Debschitz-Schule rasch im Kunstgewerbe des Jugendstils auf nahezu allen Gebieten (Schmuck, metallene Tafelservice und Gebrauchsger\"{a}te verschiedenster Art, Textilien, M\"{o}bel). Daneben begann er mit kleinplastischen Arbeiten. Einen Schwerpunkt im Bereich des Kunstgewerbes stellten jedoch seine vielfach auch ausgef\"{u}hrten M\"{o}belentw\"{u}rfe. Fritz Schmolls bildhauerisches Wirken, das von den kleinplastischen Arbeiten im kunstgewerblichen Bereich (geschnitzte Elfenbeinanh\"{a}nger, Medaillen und Plaketten, fig\"{u}rliche Kleinplastiken, ausgef\"{u}hrt in Holz, Metall und Keramik) zu gr\"{o}{\sz}er dimensionierten Skulpturen und Plastiken gef\"{u}hrt hatte (rundplastische Portr\"{a}ts, figurative und ornamentale Bauplastiken, Brunnen, Denk- und Grabm\"{a}ler) war durch eine religi\"{o}se Haltung mit bestimmt, wie sie sich in vielen sakralen und sepulkralen Auftr\"{a}gen bekundet. Vom ersten Entwurf bis zum letzten Schliff f\"{u}hrte er bei seiner T\"{a}tigkeit f\"{u}r sakrale und memoriale Auftr\"{a}ge im Sinne eines mittelalterlichen Werkmeisters, der anonym schuf, zumeist auch alles eigenh\"{a}ndig aus. Dieser Haltung kam die nach dem Vorbild mittelalterlicher Bauh\"{u}tten anonyme Arbeitsorganisation des Volksbund Deutsche Kriegsgr\"{a}berf\"{u}rsorge sehr entgegen, f\"{u}r den Fritz Schmoll seit den drei{\sz}iger Jahren bis kurz vor seinem Tod, 1963, t\"{a}tig war. In der Reihe der {\it Schmoll gen. Eisenwerth} ist au{\sz}erdem der Neffe der vier in Wien geborenen Br\"{u}der zu nennen, der Kunsthistoriker Prof. Dr. J.A.Schmoll gen. Eisenwerth, der im Februar 1915 in Berlin geborene Sohn des im August 1914 gefallenen Dr. Ing. Josef Adolf Schmoll gen. Eisenwerth.\footnote{Vgl. J.A.Schmoll gen. Eisenwerth: Epochengrenzen und Kontinuit\"{a}t. Studien zur Kunstgeschichte. Hrsg. v. Winfried Nerdinger u. Dietrich Schubert. M\"{u}nchen 1985. Im Anhang findet sich eine nahezu vollst\"{a}ndige Bibliographie des Autors bis 1984.} \stoptext

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Arabic-ConTeXt
by Idris S Hamid 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Dear gang, I still have not had time to prepare the new how-to on Arabic and ConTeXt, but I completely forgot that I already wrote one a year ago! Just compile the ConTeXt format with eOmega and read the following: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d97ost/omega-example.html http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d97ost/omega/gamma/ http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d97ost/omega/gamma/README The readme contains detailed instructions. Replace Omega1.15 with e-Omega1.15. Also do the following in your texmf.cnf file before compiling the format: buf_size.context = 200000 % needed for omega bug %extra_mem_bot.context = 4000000 % comment for omega/eomega extra_mem_top.context = 2000000 The second line should be commented as above (otherwise fpTeX will do strange things...) I can't believe I forgot all about this... More info: For global right-to-left use \textdir TRT\pardir TRT\bodydir TRT\pagedir TRT in your preamble. You will need to add a \hoffset=-8cm to compensate for an omega bug in \bodydir. For questions about any of this, please join the aleph mailing list and I'll help as best as I can. The following documentation is incomplete but helpful: http://omega.cse.unsw.edu.au:8080/roadmap/doc-1.12.ps http://omega.cse.unsw.edu.au:8080/papers/tsukuba-arabic97.pdf Best Idris

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Changes/bugs in the new Context
by Michal Kvasnicka 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Dear Mr. Hagen. I'm sorry I bother you, but I really need a help. Some time ago I uploaded and installed the new version of ConTeXt (ConTeXt ver: 2003.8.21). After that I was not able to compile some of my documents due to changes (bug?) in the new version (the changes may be older). I'd like to ask how should I handle the following two cases in the new version. 1) Changes in colors In some older version I could write things like this: \setupheader[style={\ss\bfb\red}] \setuphead[chapter] [textstyle={\ss\bfc\setupinterlinespace[line=24pt]\red}] \setupinteraction[state=start, style=\red] where \red is a color. Now it makes errors. How should I handle it now? In heads and headers I can use command option and \setupheadertexts respectively. But how sould I set the interactioncolor? (This is the real cause of the problem I have ask the last week -- by my mistake atributed to the content-lists.) 2) Chagnes (bug?) in references Some time ago command \reference[...]{...} expanded the term in the second (curly?) braces before writing to auxiliary files. Now it doesn't. I use this command in my macros like this \reference[#1]{\the\somenumber.\the\anothernumber}} Now the commands \the\somenumber.\the\anothernumber are placed to .tui/.tuo files without expansion. I had to redefine it in the following way: \global\let\OriReference=\reference \gdef\reference[#1]#2{% \edef\MyRefO{#2}% \def\MyRef##1!!{% \OriReference[#1]{##1}% } \expandafter\MyRef\MyRefO!!% } Is it a bug or a feature? How should I use it? Doesn't my solution interfere with the genious ConTeXt macros? Nonetheless I want to thank you very much for providing such a powerful macro package as ConTeXt is to all of us for free. The ConTeXt is really great. Thank you. Thank you very much for your kind help. Your sincerely Michal Kvasnicka

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Two questions on \setupinterlinespace
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum <xmailings(a)estfiles.de> writes: > > > 1. If I define \setupinterlinespace at the beginning of my document > > then all "elements" (like bodytext,foonotes, chapter, section etc.) > > are affected. How can I define the interlinespaces for each > > individually? > > Does chapter 6 of "Fonts in ConTeXt" (mfonts.pdf) help? > > Patrick No, it doesn't - or at least my brain is too latexy to understand how this should look in ConTeXt: \renewcommand{\normalsize}{\fontsize{10pt}{13pt}\selectfont} \renewcommand{\footnotesize}{\fontsize{8.5pt}{10pt}\selectfont} \newcommand{\heading_1}{\fontsize{14}{20}\selectfont} \newcommand{\heading_2}{\fontsize{12}{14}\selectfont} Maybe you can help translating? Steffen

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Two questions on \setupinterlinespace
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Hallo, as a former LaTeX-user I am quite confused by \setupinterlinespace. Could you help me with two aspects, please? 1. If I define \setupinterlinespace at the beginning of my document then all "elements" (like bodytext,foonotes, chapter, section etc.) are affected. How can I define the interlinespaces for each individually? 2. I can use \setupinterlinespace[line=13pt] which gives a fixed interlinespace for all "elements" (like bodytext,foonotes or section headings) and I can use \setupinterlinespace[small] or \setupinterlinespace[medium] or \setupinterlinespace[big] which gives different interlinespaces relative to the fontsizes of footnotes, headings, text etc. with factor values from 1 to 1.5 (as it is written in the manual). How can I define other values - like 1.1 or 1.75?? Thank you for any reply, Steffen

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clubpenalty/widowpenalty ignored - a bug?
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Worst case became true: After spending lot of time on defining and setting up my first ConTeXt project I had to encounter that there are orphans and widows in my book. What I did: Just before \starttext I wrote \clubpenalty=10000 \widowpenalty=10000 \displaywidowpenalty=10000 Is this wrong - or is it a bug in ConTeXt? Kind of desperately, Steffen

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fonts and footnotes
by Pawel Jackowski na Onet 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Hi! I have a problem with font of footnote-numbers. I will try to describe some details because they can be important. I've defined some sans-serif font with my own styles and sizes: \definefontsynonym[tfMyFont][file_name1] \definefontsynonym[bfMyFont][file_name2] % I don't need neither italics- nor math-style \definebodyfont[13pt,12pt,...,9pt][ss] [tfs=tfMyFont sa 0.75, % let's test alternative for tfxx tf=tfMyFont sa 1, .... bfs=bfMyFont sa 0.75, bf=bfMyFont sa 1, ....] \setupbodyfont[13pt,ss] Then I set styles for heads (chapters, sections etc.). The same for headers and footers. These setups work OK. I have a problem with footnotes though. I tried \setupfootnotes[style=\tfs]; it doesn't work (why?) -- footnotes are set with some ConTeXt-default ss font -- cmss10 -- which is not my beautiful sansserif:-). I also tried setup \setupfootnotes[bodyfont=10pt]; it works good since ten-point font is defined in \definebodyfont.. BUT numbers of footnotes still 'use' default sansserif font. So I tried something like; \setupfootnotes[...,numbercommand=\MyCommand], where \MyCommand set appropriate fontstyle and raise the number as a ^superscript (quite sophisticated way...). Anyway I have still no idea how to setup correct font and style for footnote-numbers. 1. How to setup font-style and -size for footnotes text without giving dimension directly? I mean why I have to set \setupfootnotes[bodyfont=10pt] and I can't set \setupfootnotes[style=\tfxx]? 2. How to setup font-style and -size for BOTH footnote reference (in text) and footnote number (in the bottom of the text area)? Pawe/l

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Hot to calculate width=\textwidth - \bodyfontsize
by Steffen Wolfrum 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Thank you very much Patrick! May I ask you please for help also for another urgent problem? I still have no idea to setup the linespacing for the different elements like footnote, headings etc. In LaTeX it was quite easy (\fontsize{size_of_font}{linespacing}\selectfont): \renewcommand{\normalsize}{\fontsize{10pt}{13pt}\selectfont} \renewcommand{\footnotesize}{\fontsize{8.5pt}{10pt}\selectfont} \newcommand{\heading_1}{\fontsize{14}{20}\selectfont} \newcommand{\heading_2}{\fontsize{12}{14}\selectfont} But how to write this in ConTeXt (i.e. set up in pt not in ex)? Thank you again, Steffen Patrick Gundlach <pg(a)levana.de> wrote: > Hi, > > Steffen Wolfrum <xmailings(a)estfiles.de> writes: > > > how is the syntax for adding or subtraction, like > > width=\textwidth - 12pt > > if you are using etex and not afraid of strange examples: > > > \setuplayout[header=\dimexpr(\textwidth - 12pt)] > \starttext > \showsetups > \stoptext > > > Patrick

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