dev-context January 2009

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(fwd) Bug#480725: mptopdf does not work with beginfig(-1)
by Norbert Preining 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

forwarded 480725 dev-context(a)ntg.nl thanks Dear Hans, dear Taco, on the Debian side we got the attached bug report together with a patch for mptopdf.pl. Can you comment on it, or consider it for inclusion? Thanks and all the best Norbert Please leave 480725(a)bugs.debian.org on the Cc list, thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Norbert Preining <preining(a)logic.at> Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <preining(a)debian.org> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DARENTH (n.) Measure = 0.0000176 mg. Defined as that amount of margarine capable of covering one hundred slices of bread to the depth of one molecule. This is the legal maximum allowed in sandwich bars in Greater London. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff

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Norwegian in ConTeXt (a delayed answer)
by Mojca Miklavec 24 Apr '09

24 Apr '09

Mojca/Hans/Mojca/Hans/Mojca wrote: >>>> And we need to improve support for "Norwegian" - the poor user asked >>>> for it more than one year ago. >>>> >>> anyhow, norwegian ... the poor user is not that poor apart from 3 missing hyphenation exceptions -) >> >> No, he also sent translations for all the labels for Nynorsk that have >> never been included into ConTeXt, and language tags nn & nb have not >> been added either. > > hm, must have lost that [So I send this to the mailing list before a private conversation is lost again] It's still there: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context.devel/349/ The point we stopped at was: you wanted to keep no and derive nn & nb from it, but it stopped at hyphenation patterns somewhere (they were submitted to CTAN, but notheng has happened afterwards), and at the fact that nobody came up with a suggestion of how to derive the languages from each other. It really doesn't hurt if we define two languages nb and nn (such as there are multiple languages for Czech/Slovak, Croatian/Bosnian/Serbian), and "remove" no, in the sense that no can be left as a synonym to nb only. Specifically: ------------- Hans F. Nordhaug: > I think "no" should be deprecated and giving a (useful) warning/error - > telling people to switch to "nb". ------------- Karl: To sum up, we need the following language codes: nb and nn. And we need the following mappings: bokmal --> nb bokmål --> nb (if possible) nynorsk --> nn norsk --> nb (with warning) norwegian --> nb (with warning) ------------- Mojca: You also need to ask Hans how to provide a "'no' is not allowed language switch" warning or error. What are you planning to do with the "norwegian" interface? Hans: why is "Norwegian" currently not listed in mult-sys.tex? Because only languages which need something different than "ec" need to be listed there or is there some other reason? Hans, you pointed out the chineese module ... but from what I can see there, one needs to include the module explicitely and ConTeXt users are pampered too much ;) (i.e. everything should happen automatically) - is there a way to say something like this? \startlanguage[nn] \setupitemize[stopper=] \definesymbol[1][\endash] \stoplanguage ------------- Karl/Mojca/Karl: >> leftquotation=\leftguillemot, >> rightquotation=\rightguillemot, > >Are the old values wrong or just an alternative? Well, there are no very strict rules in Norwegian; you *can* use every possible quotation mark. But the guillemots are certainly the preferred ones for (outer) quotations. ------------- Karl: My suggestion is \definesymbol[1][{\symbol[dash]}] \definesymbol[2][{\symbol[star]}] \definesymbol[3][{\symbol[circle]}] \definesymbol[4][{\symbol[bullet]}] \definesymbol[5][{\symbol[triangle]}] and leave levels 6+ at their defaults. Norwegian people, feel free to comment on this. :) ------------- Mojca: so it would really make sense to enable something like \startlanguagespecifics[nb] \setupitemize[stopper=] \definesymbol[1][{\symbol[dash]}] \definesymbol[2][{\symbol[star]}] \definesymbol[3][{\symbol[circle]}] \definesymbol[4][{\symbol[bullet]}] \definesymbol[5][{\symbol[triangle]}] \stoplanguagespecifics Perhaps that exists already, but I don't know how to do it. For Slovenian and Hungarian, the same "problem" exists. Now I use \def\placedotafter#1{#1.} \setuphead[section][numbercommand=\placedotafter] although it would be more clean if one could have something similar to \startlanguagespecifics[sl] \setupheads[stopper=.] \stoplanguagespecifics in default settings once that will be implemented. ------------- Karl: \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!content=Innhold] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!content=Innhald] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!tables=Tabeller] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!tables=Tabellar] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!figures=Figurer] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!figures=Figurar] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!graphics=Bilde] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!graphics=Bilete] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!intermezzi=Intermesso] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!intermezzi=Intermesso] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!index=Register] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!index=Register] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!abbreviations=Forkortelser] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!abbreviations=Forkortingar] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!logos=Logoer] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!logos=Logoar] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!units=Enheter] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!units=Einingar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!table=Tabell ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!table=Tabell ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!figure=Figur ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!figure=Figur ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!intermezzo=Intermesso ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!intermezzo=Intermesso ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!graphic=Bilde ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!graphic=Bilete ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!chapter=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!chapter=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!section=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!section=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!subsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!subsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!subsubsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!subsubsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!subsubsubsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!subsubsubsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!appendix=] % Tillegg \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!appendix=] % Tillegg \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!part=Del] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!part=Del] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!line=linje ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!line=linje ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!lines=linjer ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!lines=linjer ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!january=januar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!february=februar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!march=mars] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!april=april] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!may=mai] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!june=juni] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!july=juli] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!august=august] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!september=september] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!october=oktober] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!november=november] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!december=desember] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!january=januar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!february=februar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!march=mars] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!april=april] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!may=mai] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!june=juni] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!july=juli] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!august=august] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!september=september] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!october=oktober] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!november=november] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!december=desember] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!sunday=s\ostroke ndag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!monday=mandag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!tuesday=tirsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!wednesday=onsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!thursday=torsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!friday=fredag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!saturday=l\ostroke rdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!sunday=sundag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!monday=m\aring ndag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!tuesday=tysdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!wednesday=onsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!thursday=torsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!friday=fredag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!saturday=laurdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!page=side ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!atpage=p\aring\ side ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!hencefore=som vist over] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!hereafter=som vist under] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!see=se ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!page=side ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!atpage=p\aring\ side ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!hencefore=som vist over] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!hereafter=som vist under] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!see=sj\aring\ ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!january :\s!mnem=jan.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!february :\s!mnem=feb.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!march :\s!mnem=mars] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!april :\s!mnem=april] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!may :\s!mnem=mai] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!june :\s!mnem=juni] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!july :\s!mnem=juli] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!august :\s!mnem=aug.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!september:\s!mnem=sep.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!october :\s!mnem=okt.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!november :\s!mnem=nov.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!december :\s!mnem=des.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!january :\s!mnem=jan.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!february :\s!mnem=feb.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!march :\s!mnem=mars] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!april :\s!mnem=april] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!may :\s!mnem=mai] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!june :\s!mnem=juni] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!july :\s!mnem=juli] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!august :\s!mnem=aug.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!september:\s!mnem=sep.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!october :\s!mnem=okt.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!november :\s!mnem=nov.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!december :\s!mnem=des.] ------------------ Karl: \installlanguage [nn] [spacing=packed, lefthyphenmin=2, righthyphenmin=2, leftsentence=---, rightsentence=---, leftsubsentence=---, rightsubsentence=---, leftquote=\upperleftsinglesixquote, rightquote=\upperrightsingleninequote, leftquotation=\leftguillemot, rightquotation=\rightguillemot, date={day,{.},\ ,month,\ ,year}, state=stop] This is for Norwegian Nynorsk ('nn'), but the same setup is used for Norwegian Bokmål (the values used for 'day' differ, though -- see below). ------------------ Mojca

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Re: [dev-context] [NTG-context] new experimental
by Taco Hoekwater 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

Hi, An note about the math stuff wrt. luatex itself: there is no released beta yet, but current luatex trunk matches Hans' experimental version. It labels itself version 0.33.0, the revision is #1847, and it seems to be rather stable, despite massive math code changes. There are two big user-visible changes so far (this information is especially for Mojca & Aditya ). * I have added xetex-compatible primitives for the setting of math- and delcodes (and derivates). The names start with \U... instead of \XeTeX..., though. * Many of the math parameters are now separated out; some three dozen math parameters are definable in the eight math styles (\displaystyle, \textstyle, \scriptstyle, \scriptscriptstyle and \cramped versions thereof) using explicit TeX primitives or (easier, automatically) via loading of math fonts. Math fonts can now have a "MathConstants" lua subtable, this is simply the math data generated by fontforge, scaled to size. If this table is present in a font that is assigned to a math family slot, this data will be used instead of the traditional font parameters from \fam2 and \fam3. The manual is updated but not quite up to speed yet, I will fix that over the weekend (mostly explanations missing). Nothing new in OpenType MATH is really supported yet except these MathConstants (and Hans maps the traditional things like verticals extenders and italic corrections to their tfm equivalents), but there is definate progress. Still to do/planned (in planned/proposed implementation order): * Separate out the math spacing rules into parameters * Allow \mathchardef-ed control sequences in text mode * Support for automatic large operator size choosing * Full support for Math-Style extensibles (with overlaps) * Horizontal extensibles (\arrowfill, \bracefill) * Stetch Stacks (for \overbrace cs.) * Stacks (like \atop, but with more than two items) * One-click full font&param switching (for \boldmath) * Prescripts * Flattened accents * Bottom accents * ?? (that list is open for discussion). Have fun, Taco

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mptopdf says 'Unable to make mpx file' (using TEX.mp)
by Sanjoy Mahajan 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Here is 'minimal.mp': input TEX beginfig(1) draw thelabel.top(TEX("90"), origin); endfig; end It runs fine through mpost, but running 'mptopdf minimal.mp' instead produces: MPtoPDF 1.3.3 : running 'texexec --mptex minimal.mp' TeXExec | processing graphic 'minimal.mp' This is MetaPost, Version 0.993 (Web2C 7.5.6) (/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) (minimal.mp (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/metapost/base/TEX.mp) (mptextmp.mp >> mptextmp.mp >> mptextmp.mpx ! Unable to make mpx file. l.1 btex 90 etex Transcript written on minimal.log. TeXExec | runtime: 0.040707 MPtoPDF 1.3.3 : no filename matches minimal (After running mpost, the mptopdf command works fine, so delete all files except minimal.mp, then run 'mptopdf minimal.mp' to see the problem.) I'm using the Debian unstable texlive/context packages on i386 (using mkii). Do others see this problem? I don't think it's related to the mpost version or to the Debian packaging. I just tried a moderately recent 'minimals' and mpost 1.110, and the problem is the same. -Sanjoy

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Check your posts
by Taco Hoekwater 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hi all, Since yesterday evening localtime the ntg mail server switched to an external service for spam filtering. It is already clear that the mail server indeed handles much less spam now, so it looks like a great success. Still, it is a rigorous change, and for the new few days I want to ask everybody to keep an eye out for disappearing posts. This message is crossposted. If you want to reply, please do so to me personally, not to the lists. Best wishes, Taco

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