August 2008 - dev-context - NTG Mailing Lists

(fwd) Bug#480725: mptopdf does not work with beginfig(-1)
by Norbert Preining 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

forwarded 480725 dev-context(a)ntg.nl thanks Dear Hans, dear Taco, on the Debian side we got the attached bug report together with a patch for mptopdf.pl. Can you comment on it, or consider it for inclusion? Thanks and all the best Norbert Please leave 480725(a)bugs.debian.org on the Cc list, thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Norbert Preining <preining(a)logic.at> Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <preining(a)debian.org> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DARENTH (n.) Measure = 0.0000176 mg. Defined as that amount of margarine capable of covering one hundred slices of bread to the depth of one molecule. This is the legal maximum allowed in sandwich bars in Greater London. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff

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Norwegian in ConTeXt (a delayed answer)
by Mojca Miklavec 24 Apr '09

24 Apr '09

Mojca/Hans/Mojca/Hans/Mojca wrote: >>>> And we need to improve support for "Norwegian" - the poor user asked >>>> for it more than one year ago. >>>> >>> anyhow, norwegian ... the poor user is not that poor apart from 3 missing hyphenation exceptions -) >> >> No, he also sent translations for all the labels for Nynorsk that have >> never been included into ConTeXt, and language tags nn & nb have not >> been added either. > > hm, must have lost that [So I send this to the mailing list before a private conversation is lost again] It's still there: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context.devel/349/ The point we stopped at was: you wanted to keep no and derive nn & nb from it, but it stopped at hyphenation patterns somewhere (they were submitted to CTAN, but notheng has happened afterwards), and at the fact that nobody came up with a suggestion of how to derive the languages from each other. It really doesn't hurt if we define two languages nb and nn (such as there are multiple languages for Czech/Slovak, Croatian/Bosnian/Serbian), and "remove" no, in the sense that no can be left as a synonym to nb only. Specifically: ------------- Hans F. Nordhaug: > I think "no" should be deprecated and giving a (useful) warning/error - > telling people to switch to "nb". ------------- Karl: To sum up, we need the following language codes: nb and nn. And we need the following mappings: bokmal --> nb bokmål --> nb (if possible) nynorsk --> nn norsk --> nb (with warning) norwegian --> nb (with warning) ------------- Mojca: You also need to ask Hans how to provide a "'no' is not allowed language switch" warning or error. What are you planning to do with the "norwegian" interface? Hans: why is "Norwegian" currently not listed in mult-sys.tex? Because only languages which need something different than "ec" need to be listed there or is there some other reason? Hans, you pointed out the chineese module ... but from what I can see there, one needs to include the module explicitely and ConTeXt users are pampered too much ;) (i.e. everything should happen automatically) - is there a way to say something like this? \startlanguage[nn] \setupitemize[stopper=] \definesymbol[1][\endash] \stoplanguage ------------- Karl/Mojca/Karl: >> leftquotation=\leftguillemot, >> rightquotation=\rightguillemot, > >Are the old values wrong or just an alternative? Well, there are no very strict rules in Norwegian; you *can* use every possible quotation mark. But the guillemots are certainly the preferred ones for (outer) quotations. ------------- Karl: My suggestion is \definesymbol[1][{\symbol[dash]}] \definesymbol[2][{\symbol[star]}] \definesymbol[3][{\symbol[circle]}] \definesymbol[4][{\symbol[bullet]}] \definesymbol[5][{\symbol[triangle]}] and leave levels 6+ at their defaults. Norwegian people, feel free to comment on this. :) ------------- Mojca: so it would really make sense to enable something like \startlanguagespecifics[nb] \setupitemize[stopper=] \definesymbol[1][{\symbol[dash]}] \definesymbol[2][{\symbol[star]}] \definesymbol[3][{\symbol[circle]}] \definesymbol[4][{\symbol[bullet]}] \definesymbol[5][{\symbol[triangle]}] \stoplanguagespecifics Perhaps that exists already, but I don't know how to do it. For Slovenian and Hungarian, the same "problem" exists. Now I use \def\placedotafter#1{#1.} \setuphead[section][numbercommand=\placedotafter] although it would be more clean if one could have something similar to \startlanguagespecifics[sl] \setupheads[stopper=.] \stoplanguagespecifics in default settings once that will be implemented. ------------- Karl: \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!content=Innhold] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!content=Innhald] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!tables=Tabeller] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!tables=Tabellar] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!figures=Figurer] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!figures=Figurar] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!graphics=Bilde] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!graphics=Bilete] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!intermezzi=Intermesso] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!intermezzi=Intermesso] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!index=Register] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!index=Register] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!abbreviations=Forkortelser] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!abbreviations=Forkortingar] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!logos=Logoer] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!logos=Logoar] \setupheadtext [\s!nb] [\v!units=Enheter] \setupheadtext [\s!nn] [\v!units=Einingar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!table=Tabell ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!table=Tabell ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!figure=Figur ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!figure=Figur ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!intermezzo=Intermesso ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!intermezzo=Intermesso ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!graphic=Bilde ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!graphic=Bilete ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!chapter=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!chapter=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!section=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!section=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!subsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!subsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!subsubsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!subsubsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!subsubsubsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!subsubsubsection=] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!appendix=] % Tillegg \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!appendix=] % Tillegg \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!part=Del] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!part=Del] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!line=linje ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!line=linje ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!lines=linjer ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!lines=linjer ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!january=januar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!february=februar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!march=mars] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!april=april] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!may=mai] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!june=juni] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!july=juli] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!august=august] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!september=september] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!october=oktober] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!november=november] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!december=desember] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!january=januar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!february=februar] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!march=mars] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!april=april] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!may=mai] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!june=juni] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!july=juli] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!august=august] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!september=september] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!october=oktober] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!november=november] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!december=desember] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!sunday=s\ostroke ndag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!monday=mandag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!tuesday=tirsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!wednesday=onsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!thursday=torsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!friday=fredag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!saturday=l\ostroke rdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!sunday=sundag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!monday=m\aring ndag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!tuesday=tysdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!wednesday=onsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!thursday=torsdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!friday=fredag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!saturday=laurdag] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!page=side ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!atpage=p\aring\ side ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!hencefore=som vist over] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!hereafter=som vist under] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!see=se ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!page=side ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!atpage=p\aring\ side ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!hencefore=som vist over] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!hereafter=som vist under] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!see=sj\aring\ ] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!january :\s!mnem=jan.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!february :\s!mnem=feb.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!march :\s!mnem=mars] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!april :\s!mnem=april] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!may :\s!mnem=mai] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!june :\s!mnem=juni] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!july :\s!mnem=juli] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!august :\s!mnem=aug.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!september:\s!mnem=sep.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!october :\s!mnem=okt.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!november :\s!mnem=nov.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nb] [\v!december :\s!mnem=des.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!january :\s!mnem=jan.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!february :\s!mnem=feb.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!march :\s!mnem=mars] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!april :\s!mnem=april] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!may :\s!mnem=mai] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!june :\s!mnem=juni] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!july :\s!mnem=juli] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!august :\s!mnem=aug.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!september:\s!mnem=sep.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!october :\s!mnem=okt.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!november :\s!mnem=nov.] \setuplabeltext [\s!nn] [\v!december :\s!mnem=des.] ------------------ Karl: \installlanguage [nn] [spacing=packed, lefthyphenmin=2, righthyphenmin=2, leftsentence=---, rightsentence=---, leftsubsentence=---, rightsubsentence=---, leftquote=\upperleftsinglesixquote, rightquote=\upperrightsingleninequote, leftquotation=\leftguillemot, rightquotation=\rightguillemot, date={day,{.},\ ,month,\ ,year}, state=stop] This is for Norwegian Nynorsk ('nn'), but the same setup is used for Norwegian Bokmål (the values used for 'day' differ, though -- see below). ------------------ Mojca

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metafun & textext problems in mkiv
by Mojca Miklavec 01 Sep '08

01 Sep '08

Hello Hans, this fails in mkiv: \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \startMPpage picture p; p := textext("abc"); draw p withcolor red; draw p shifted (3cm,0) withcolor blue; \stopMPpage \stoptext Mojca

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trouble with texmfstart and =
by Aditya Mahajan 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

texmfstart does not handle = in --argument propertly. For example texmfstart --verbose --arguments="a=b" bin:echo gives texmfstart version 2.0.3 using 'system' call: echo a a Notice that oly echo a is being called. This causes problems when I want to call echo "a=b". If I try texmfstart --verbose --arguments="\"a=b\"" bin:echo I get texmfstart version 2.0.3 using 'system' call: echo "a sh: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string execution failed For some reason, texmfstart is truncating the argument before =. Due to this bug the vim module does not work anymore. Aditya

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Happy ConTeXt Community Day :)
by Mojca Miklavec 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

Hello, I would like to express my best wishes to the two very special people who did most for the ConTeXt community - who are voluntary, with all their enthusiasm, helping others and developing whatever users around the World desire. I wish them both to be able to do their dream job (as well as to spend enough time away from computer for other hobbies :), and would like to thank them both for the marvellous work they are doing. Today could be declared the "ConTeXt Community Day" :) Patrick, alles gutes zum Geburtstag! Taco, van harte gefeliciteerd met je verjaardag! M.

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bugs & features
by Taco Hoekwater 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Hi, Here is the stuff I have seen/heard in the last week. There may well be more that I have not remembered yet. (with apologies for starting an email thread but I am supposedly on vacation for the rest of this week and the next and I do not want things to fall into cracks simply because I am not at the office). Bib module bugs: * forced title downcasing in the bst files (this is bad for German) * a missing \egroup in incollection * inproceedings == conference (the latter doesnt exist yet) Context feature requests: * \setuptyping[ignorefirstspace=yes] (req. by pm on ntg-context) Mplib related bugs: * \sometxt is different in mkiv <> mkiv (from ts, email to mojca and me) * a slowing down of mplib when many strings are used (from yue wang, email to hans and me) Luatex bugs: * the Italic pfbs from URW crash luatex when used in afm mode * colorisation in tables doesnt work, this seems related to \leaders, and not a macro problem MKIV bugs: * \postexhyphenchar=`\- doesn't work in mkiv. Does work in plain luatex. (from Jano) * converters.alphabetic(0,"arabic") is one off (from Khaled) * \setupexternalfigures is always using the first setup if more are given (from pm, on the mailing list) * problems with copying and pasting of oldstyle from the generated pdf (from aditya) Generic context bug: * Bug in \startitemize: embedded [joinedup] doesnt work (from Marcin) Reference manual: * \starttypescriptcollection needs documenting * the typescripts / typefaces explanation is not good enough yet Best wishes, Taco

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feature interiance
by Taco Hoekwater 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Hi Wolfgang, Hans, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > \definefontfeature[latin-default] [default] > [script=latn,expansion=quality,protrusion=pure] > \definefontfeature[latin-smallcaps][smallcaps][script=latn,expansion=quality,protrusion=pure] > \definefontfeature[latin-oldstyle] [oldstyle] > [script=latn,expansion=quality,protrusion=pure] It seems life would be easier if we would have a way to push merged feature settings downward, something like this: \definefontfeature [plushz] % no inheritance, on purpose ! [expansion=quality] \definetypeface [][][][][][extrafeatures=plushz] That would then be functionally equivalent to \definefontfeature [plushz] % no inheritance, on purpose ! [expansion=quality] \definefontfeature [<xxx>] [plushz] \definetypeface [][][][][] for any <xxx> that is set up by the \definefontsynonyms. Best wishes, Taco

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update modules
by luigi scarso 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

Update modules. http://groups.foundry.supelec.fr/modules/ -- luigi

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MetaFun freelabel macro
by Oliver Buerschaper 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

Dear Taco, a minute ago I discovered this lovely macro freelabel() and friends … just a minor thing that confuses me a bit: freelabel("a", origin, dir(90)); places the label below the origin rather than above it. I would have expected the direction vector to point from the anchor point towards the label and not the other way round … Apart from that this nifty macro is going to save me a lot of trouble! Oliver

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Debian TeX packages for Etch now on backports.org
by Norbert Preining 03 Aug '08

03 Aug '08

Hi all! Some news concerning the backports of TeX Live 2007 Debian packages to etch. I have stopped to provide my own binaries and switched to using www.backports.org. Advantage of that is that we will have uptodate binaries for all different architectures, not only for those I manage to compile for or ask someone to compile for. For you that means: - the installation source for texlive-bin has changed, please see http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions on how to use the backports service. In a nut shell: . add deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main to your /etc/apt/source.list . call aptitude update . install any package with aptitude -t etch-backports install texlive-base-bin .... - all arch = all packages (i.e., all the others) can be either taken from the testing repository with pinning (see again the above page for detailed descriptions), but I will continue to have them around in my repository on people.debian.org. So to some the situation up: texlive and tex-common deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ tl2007/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ src/ texlive-bin deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main (but the source is also available from the above location) lmodern deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ lmodern/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ lmodern/ context deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/ The package has been accepted into backports.org only today, so currently there are only i386 binaries, but soon there should be all the other archs, too. I hope that this service integrates better into the normal backport world most people are using. If you have any questions, just let me know. Best wishes Norbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Norbert Preining <preining(a)logic.at> Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer <preining(a)debian.org> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MUNDERFIELD (n.) A meadow selected, whilst driving past, as being ideal for a picnic which, from a sitting position, turns out to be full of stubble, dust and cowpats, and almost impossible to enjoy yourself in. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff

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