On 9/14/07, Andrea Valle wrote:

YES. Thanks Mojca, Wolfgang. Stretching problem solved updating ConTeXt.

Great! Do you still experience any speed problems now? (I have a feeling that Hans has removed dependency on ImageMagic, but I didn't try to uninstall it to check if that was true.) I also need to apologise for blaming ConTeXt for wrong stretching of included figures (I had some problems with figures in XeTeX in ConTeXt already before, so I falsely assumed that it was "yet another one in the series"). It turned out it has been a XeTeX bug, which popped up only for some very specific kind of pictures and only in xdvipdfmx ... Mojca

Hmmm, after updating I'm able to solve problems related to figures in XeTeX. In any case, my graphical project (involving jpgs and pdf inclusion, also in alyers) does not compile anymore. I'm having this ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object. Output file removed. What does it mean? Thanks -a- On 14 Sep 2007, at 10:46, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

2007/9/14, Andrea Valle :

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Thanks Mojca,

Yes, having the standard mactex I had an old ConTeXt version.

On 13 Sep 2007, at 14:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

ctxtools --updatecontext

Done it. Now I'm using:

texexec --version TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006

texec --check 2007.09.13 21:15

I've made also: texexec --make --all

(and nothing more)

While using texexec I'm having no problem. ConTeXt ver: 2007.09.13 21:15 MKII fmt: 2007.9.14 int: english/ english

But with the --xtx flag texexec is now raising a fatal error now:

ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2007.9.4 int: english/ english

language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion : 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII FilesVersion : 2007.09.13 21:15

?

Many thanks

Hi Andrea,

you have to generate extra formats for XeTeX, you should type texexec --make --all --xetex before you can run ConTeXt.

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Many thanks and how do I update Metapost? I supposed that ctxtools --updatecontext would have update all Best -a- On 14 Sep 2007, at 15:36, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

Le 14 septembre à 11:51:43 Andrea Valle écrit notamment:

| I'm having this

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| ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap | ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.

I had the same until I updated metapost to version 1.000 and regenerated some formats (metafun). Now it has disappeared and everything works.

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Thanks Hans, So, how can I update binaries? Best -a- On 14 Sep 2007, at 15:59, Hans Hagen wrote:

Andrea Valle wrote:

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Many thanks

and how do I update Metapost? I supposed that

ctxtools --updatecontext

would have update all

this only updates the context files (tex, mp, etc) not binaries

(soon it will be possible to do this from the garden)

Hans

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depends on the platform ...

OK, I serached a bit and the downloaded and installed the TeXLive-2007-Dev from http://tug.org/mactex/morepackages.html. It's the september 2007 package. The stretching problem was solved even without updating via ctxtools --updatecontext But I did it the same, then I did texexec --make --all texexec --make --all --xetex ConTeXt works but it doesn't change anything with respect to the: | ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap | ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object. message (which makes the compilation fail in the case of my photoBooklet). Any hints? Thanks Best -a-

debian ships intermediate updates, at akira's site there are fresh win binaries, osx distributions have good updaters, and for luatex there is luatex.org and fabrice's gforge repos

Hans

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Brief investigation and summary: After 1. updating with macTeX package on macOSX 10.4.9 2. even if I have update ConTeXt and regenerate formats (all, also with xetex) my normal ConTeXt (texexec) is ok, my XeConTeX (texexec --xtx) is broken This is a test code (saved as utf-8) \enableregime[utf] \setuppapersize[S6][S6] %\setupbodyfont[ss, 12pt] \definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima] \setupbodyfont[Optima] \starttext Here I'm working, with all you need: \crlf òîèéàùç Don't uncomment this %\startitemize %\item a malicious item %\stopitemize or this: %$\to$ \stoptext Uncommenting makes compilation fail with: ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object. Output file removed. (More, XeTeX is still slow) tested also from terminal -a- On 14 Sep 2007, at 16:17, Hans Hagen wrote:

Andrea Valle wrote:

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Thanks Hans, So, how can I update binaries?

depends on the platform ... debian ships intermediate updates, at akira's site there are fresh win binaries, osx distributions have good updaters, and for luatex there is luatex.org and fabrice's gforge repos

Hans

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Thanks Hans texexec --xetex myfile.tex is broken too: ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object. (what's the difference between --xtx and --xetex?) Best -a- On 14 Sep 2007, at 20:28, Hans Hagen wrote:

Andrea Valle wrote:

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Brief investigation and summary:

After 1. updating with macTeX package on macOSX 10.4.9 2. even if I have update ConTeXt and regenerate formats (all, also with xetex)

my normal ConTeXt (texexec) is ok, my XeConTeX (texexec --xtx) is broken

--xetex too?

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-------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong)

Thanks Hans Hmm, if you mean it can depend of Optima (a part from the fact that it has worked perfectly before) the following breaks in the same way: \enableregime[utf] \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \starttext \startitemize \item nome dell'insegnamento (es. $\to$ Storia del cinema) \item settore scientifico-disciplinare (SSD, es. $\to$ l-art/06) \item numero di crediti (cfu, es. $\to$ 10) \stopitemize La votazione é irrilevante. Queste informazioni vanno inserite in un file di testo in una forma simile: \stoptext It gives: [1 ** NOTICE: This document contains a `Preview & Print only' licensed font ** ] ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object. (I take care of removing other aux files) -a- On 15 Sep 2007, at 13:25, Hans Hagen wrote:

Andrea Valle wrote:

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Thanks Hans

texexec --xetex myfile.tex

is broken too: ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.

(what's the difference between --xtx and --xetex?)

depends on theversion of texexec; nowadays we always use dvipdfmx so there should be no different

to me it looks like one of the fonts is broken, context does nothing with cmaps (that is, only mkiv does)

Hans

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-------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong)

(I'm sorry for the delayed answer.) On 9/15/07, Hans Hagen wrote:

Andrea Valle wrote:

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** WARNING ** Invalid CMap ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.

i wonder what that object is .. and who generates the ref, could be a special but you do nothing special in the example so i'm puzzled ... do others have this problem?

Yes. I don't remember whether I already complained about it or not, but here's another (minimal) example to reproduce it: \starttext \startformula a+b=\int_{i=0}^{\infty}\Gamma\,dx \stopformula \stoptext The main problem (besides being quite slow for the default LM) is that "font loading" in ConTeXt+XeTeX now does the following: if ("FontName" is a valid font) then use "FontName" else use "[FontName]" end And that one forgets the third possibility: about the old tfm fonts which should be loaded without any quotes, for example rm-lmr12 \font\a="rm-lmr12" works, but \font\a="rm-lmr12" at 12pt doesn't, and ConTeXt tries to use that one. Normally TeX would stop: generate and report the error at that point, but ConTeXt currently skips those errors on purpose and tries to use an unexisting font, so it results in a broken PDF. What about \definefontsynonym [...] [rm-lmr12] [type=tfm] \definefontsynonym [...] [lmodern12-regular] [type=otf] or, use the already existing mechanism: \definefontsynonym [...] [tfm:rm-lmr12] [...] \definefontsynonym [...] [file:lmodern12-regular] [...] I know it's ugly, but I guess that one either needs: a) being more precise in font specifications inside ConTeXt and tell XeTeX exactly what kind of font needs to be loaded (an installed one, otf file inside texmf tree, or the old tfm) b) a harmless way to ask XeTeX if some font exists (instead of the current ugly hack) c) a new "extremely permissive" mode in XeTeX, which would accept the same synax for al the three kinds of fonts The fastest way to fix this is to create the third possibility in the if-else statement (I forgot where that one was, but I can take a look), but as an intermediate solution (until XeTeX gets more functionality in that respect, if ever), I guess that a) would be a must, although the definitions might look slightly less elegant/clean than they're now. Mojca PS: to be honest, I'm still using the XeTeX version from TeXLive 2007 which is a bit old. I remember that Jonathan has promissed to look into the problem described above some time ago (\font\a="rm-lmr12" vs. \font\a="rm-lmr12" at 12pt), but I have no idea about what has happened later with it. But in any case: this problem should be fixed inside ConTeXt first.

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

(I'm sorry for the delayed answer.)

On 9/15/07, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Andrea Valle wrote:

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** WARNING ** Invalid CMap ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object. i wonder what that object is .. and who generates the ref, could be a special but you do nothing special in the example so i'm puzzled ... do others have this problem?

Yes. I don't remember whether I already complained about it or not, but here's another (minimal) example to reproduce it:

\starttext \startformula a+b=\int_{i=0}^{\infty}\Gamma\,dx \stopformula \stoptext

The main problem (besides being quite slow for the default LM) is that "font loading" in ConTeXt+XeTeX now does the following:

if ("FontName" is a valid font) then use "FontName" else use "[FontName]" end

And that one forgets the third possibility: about the old tfm fonts which should be loaded without any quotes, for example rm-lmr12

\font\a="rm-lmr12" works, but \font\a="rm-lmr12" at 12pt doesn't, and ConTeXt tries to use that one. Normally TeX would stop: generate and report the error at that point, but ConTeXt currently skips those errors on purpose and tries to use an unexisting font, so it results in a broken PDF.

i will send you a patch (yet another test for a spec -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 9/16/07, Andrea Valle wrote:

I was happy with old install, with bugs and xetex low level commands :-)

So, er, which strategy you gurus suggest?

Reinstall from scratch (old) TeXLive 2007 waiting for a new release?

That's one possibility, of course. You can also download any ConTeXt version from here: http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/?group_id=14 and then unzip it into texmf-local (or wherever the ConTeXt files currently are) and remake formats. But there is still one thing I fear: font handling in XeTeX has been broken since TeX Live came out, so I don't know if there is any "stable" XeTeX font support in any of the versions between the one from TeX Live 2007 and the latest one. There are some late versions and fixes, but I really don't know which one to suggest. Perhaps Taco knows better. Or simply take the one from TeX Live again. Another possibility would be to use LuaTeX. It should work OK, but again, there is no 100% guarantee (I created some newspaper with it back in June and besides all the problems I had every now and then, it was pre-alpha after all, our color laser at university still objects to print it out. I shouldn't have mentioned that, but only to warn you that any last-minute fixes in ConTeXt can be problematic, if you don't have at least two days inbetween, so that all the little bugs biting you in that release can be fixed.) I hope that the problem with non-working PDFs will be resolved really soon, so if you have a few days more to wait ... in the meantime you can try LuaTeX. wget http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/macosxtex.zip wget http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/justtex.zip unzip macosxtex.zip unzip justtex.zip cd tex . setuptex luatools --generate texexec --make --all texexec --make --xtx --all texexec --make --lua --all Don't worry, that won't break your distribution. You can use the standalone context completely isolated from everything else. You only need to issue ". setuptex" each time you want to use the standalone. In all the other cases, your system-installed TeX will be used. Mojca

(Thanks Hans) On 15 Sep 2007, at 18:43, Hans Hagen wrote:

Andrea Valle wrote:

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\enableregime[utf]

this one is not needed, xetex is utf

Ok. I read some infos on the wiki but I was a bit confused. So: - if I encode in utf-8 I don't have to specify regime \enableregime[utf] - if I encode in another encodign (e.g. mac roman) I have to specify \the correct \enableregime (here: [mac]) Am I right? Best -a- -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong)

Andrea Valle wrote:

(Thanks Hans)

On 15 Sep 2007, at 18:43, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Andrea Valle wrote:

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\enableregime[utf]

this one is not needed, xetex is utf

Ok. I read some infos on the wiki but I was a bit confused. So:

- if I encode in utf-8 I don't have to specify regime \enableregime[utf] - if I encode in another encodign (e.g. mac roman) I have to specify \the correct \enableregime (here: [mac])

Am I right?

kind of ... i never tested regimes with xetex if only because i assume that xetex users use utf8 of have recoded their docs to utf8 -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Le 14 septembre à 15:46:05 Andrea Valle écrit notamment: | Many thanks

| and how do I update Metapost? | I supposed that

| ctxtools --updatecontext

| would have update all

| Best Here: http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/?group_id=13&release_id=224 -- Jean