Wrong hyphenation when using patterns={fr,agr}

Dear all, Combining patterns for french and ancien greek languages, I noticed there are wrong hyphenations at quote char as shown in following MWE. Is this expected behavior by using the patterns= key in such a way ? Using ConTeXt ver: 2016.08.08 21:28 MKIV beta fmt: 2016.8.9 int: english/English -------- \setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr, agr}] \mainlanguage[fr] \starttext \hyphenatedword{l'homme} \stoptext --------- The above prints : l’-homme If so, what is the alternative to specify hyphenation in a text containing both french and ancient greek (the minority) words. Thanks a lot for advising, Best regards Joseph Canedo

On 8/9/2016 11:21 PM, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote:
I see: languages > initialization > language 'fr', patterns 'agr,fr', discarding conflict (0-9)'(0-9) so, the ' is used differently between the languages
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As I remember, French has 2'2 while Ancient Greek has 8'8 which are not exactly contradictory ;-) We could of course normalise all languages to the same value (8 is probably sound); in the mean time Joseph can edit his own copy of, say, the French patterns to replace the 2’s by 8’s. Best, Arthur

On 8/10/2016 2:15 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
some harmonization can indeed help there because one never know how the weights matter (8'8 vs 7'7 would be interesting indeed) which remind me that the l/r min values should probably also be adapted in such cases Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Dears Joseph, Hans, Wolfgang, Arthur (and others), As a French user of ConTeXt (current version: 2016.07.18 16:46, generally on Windows 10, time to time on Ubuntu), I am currently working on a book in French, with Greek quotations, and some rare occurences in other non-european languages. Before version: 2016.07.18, there were conflicts in hyphenations (with '\setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr,agr}]' command) that Hans has fixed. But some disgraceful double dots [:] used to stay at the beginning of lines. With the '\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]' command, all end that end well. I found no more hyphenation issues, nor punctuation ones, even within text defined by \definefallbackfamily setup. \setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr,agr}] \mainlanguage[fr] \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] Le 09/08/2016 à 23:21, josephcanedo@gmail.com a écrit :
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