Re: [NTG-context] Length range control of the last line of paragraph
On 3/25/2016 2:40 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2016-03-24 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 3/24/2016 8:36 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
We basically need: <text><glue min-width='XX' max-width='hsize-3*indent'>
and I thought this is exactly what \parfillskip ensures \parfillskip XX plus (hsize - 3*indent)
the fil is taken into account when calculating the best break points and then the XX is fixed but plus/minus can lead to if being less or more, all relative to other fill (distributed)
so, XX plus (hsize - 3*indent) is not a fixed value, it's XX or more
take this:
\ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip0pt plus 1cm x}
the skip will stretch more than 1cm
I can see.
But sorry for my ignorance, as far as I understand, \parfillskip is added to the end of the paragraph, so we have rather \ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip0pt plus 1cm} % without that 'x' at the end, so no 'glue' distribution is performed
there is but not enough stretch so there will be a warning ... you can see it from \ruledhbox to 10cm {x} \ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip0pt plus 1cm} \ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip0pt plus 1fill}
If '\parfillskip 2em plus (hsize - 3*(2em) - 2em)' is specified, I still think we should get space of width at least 2em '####' which can be extended as indicated by hyphens '-' here:
emememememememememememememememememememem emememememem------------------------####
So there are two last line lengths extrems: (shortest) emememememememememememememememememememem emememememem
(longest) emememememememememememememememememememem emememememememememememememememememem
I slightly modified your example and even with verystrict settings all seems to be fine (except too narrow blocks, which is not my use case).
\showmakeup[glue]
\setupindenting[yes,2em]
\edef\ward{\cldloadfile{ward}}
\setupalign[verystrict,hz]
\starttext \dorecurse{100}{ \hsize\dimexpr\textwidth-#1mm\relax \dimen0=\hsize \advance\dimen0 by -8em % 3*em - 2em \parfillskip 2em plus \dimen0\relax \ward \par \parfillskip 2em plus \dimen0\relax \ward \par \startnarrower[left] \parfillskip 2em plus \dimen0\relax \ward \par \stopnarrower \startnarrower[left] \parfillskip 2em plus \dimen0\relax \ward \par \stopnarrower \page } \stoptext
The problem here this settings cannot be done globally if there are various block widths.
you always add a 2em skip so there will never be a word touching the right margin in the last line; furthermore you permit some stretch, but as said before this stretch is not frozen, it's a ratio relative to other stretch \ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip2em plus 1cm x\hskip2em plus 1cm x} so, the plus 1cm can become more than that depending on needs (onlky the warning is influenced
Can I somehow define command globally which takes local block widths?
\parfillskip #1 plus \localhsize-#1-#2, where #1 gap width #2 shortest line width
\availablehsize i think that the #1 gap is irrelevant and actually makes it worse as it add space while you actually want it to move the other direction anyway, this is why using a couple of non-hyphenated words or a minimum amount of characters makes more sense ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On 2016-03-25 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 3/25/2016 2:40 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2016-03-24 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 3/24/2016 8:36 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
We basically need: <text><glue min-width='XX' max-width='hsize-3*indent'>
and I thought this is exactly what \parfillskip ensures \parfillskip XX plus (hsize - 3*indent)
the fil is taken into account when calculating the best break points and then the XX is fixed but plus/minus can lead to if being less or more, all relative to other fill (distributed)
so, XX plus (hsize - 3*indent) is not a fixed value, it's XX or more
take this:
\ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip0pt plus 1cm x}
the skip will stretch more than 1cm
I can see.
But sorry for my ignorance, as far as I understand, \parfillskip is added to the end of the paragraph, so we have rather \ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip0pt plus 1cm} % without that 'x' at the end, so no 'glue' distribution is performed
there is but not enough stretch so there will be a warning ... you can see it from
\ruledhbox to 10cm {x} \ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip0pt plus 1cm} \ruledhbox to 10cm {x\hskip0pt plus 1fill}
I get it, thanks.
If '\parfillskip 2em plus (hsize - 3*(2em) - 2em)' is specified, I still think we should get space of width at least 2em '####' which can be extended as indicated by hyphens '-' here:
emememememememememememememememememememem emememememem------------------------####
So there are two last line lengths extrems: (shortest) emememememememememememememememememememem emememememem
(longest) emememememememememememememememememememem emememememememememememememememememem
you always add a 2em skip so there will never be a word touching the right margin in the last line;
yes, but this is my goal (!) See https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/084858.html - case (2) I am afraid I hasn't been clear enough yet.
Can I somehow define command globally which takes local block widths?
\parfillskip #1 plus \localhsize-#1-#2, where #1 gap width #2 shortest line width
\availablehsize
So the following \parfillskip specification finally seems to be what I was looking for as it covers both cases in my original question: \setupindenting[yes,2em] \newdimen\lastlineminlength \newdimen\lastlinemingap \lastlineminlength=3em \lastlinemingap=1em \parfillskip \lastlinemingap plus \dimexpr\availablehsize-\lastlineminlength-\lastlinemingap\relax \edef\ward{\cldloadfile{ward}} \starttext \dorecurse{100}{ \hsize\dimexpr\textwidth-#1mm\relax \ward \par \ward \par \startnarrower[left] \ward \par \ward \par \stopnarrower \page } \stoptext As it can be done in one place globally and in almost single line, no special new command is necessary (as requested originally). Jan
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