We would also be really interested in such a book (even if it was a bit pricey). Cheers, Mike -----Original Message----- From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl on behalf of Matija Suklje Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 9:42 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book Dne ponedeljek 4. februarja 2008 je Yue Wang napisal(a):

cont-eni.pdf, the context manual from pragma ade, i think. but it is quite outdated. I think the context development team should update the manual whenever a new feature is stable, but these people are working non-stop seeking for new features and have no time to update the manuals:) so maybe you can find more information on the wiki pages.

Thanks, but I thought about a physically present printed book that I could ask the central technical library to order it for their collection. Cheers, Matija p.s. sorry about the double post ...there was a problem with the mail server. -- gsm: +386 41 849 552 e-mail: matija.suklje@rutka.net www: http://matija.suklje.name aim: hookofsilver icq: 110183360 jabber/g-talk: matija.suklje@gabbler.org msn: matija.suklje@rutka.net yahoo: matija_suklje

Dear ConTeXt experts, I recently switched over to ConTeXt and it has been great! I have been learning a lot from the source files in texmf/tex/context/base/ but I find it hard to understand from the code for a given command what options are available, which ones are defaults, and what are all the possible values one might give a given option. I presume all this information is contained in the sources but I am unsure as to what I should be looking for. Are there specific things I should be looking for? Thanks in advance, Ernesto

Hello, i think it would be great to have some basic documentation published. My idea is to create "Basic ConTeXt guide" with start documentation for new user. This is what should be in: 1. Chapter: What is ConTeXt, what it included, which are basic modules, what is needed to start with Context, maybe something about instalation 2. Chapter: first document step by step, second document (something like on contexgarden, maybe little longer step by step) 3. Chapter: my first letter ( how to write little longer document "in style") 4. Chapter: Formating - quick introduction in text aligment,, fonts (size and format), tables, how to setup setups page design (mergins...) 5. Chapter: How to create simple presentation 6. Tips and Tricks (maybe some FAQ explained) Appedix A: Table of math symbols with examples (like sum, matrix...) Appedix B: Article From Latex to Context ...... Now my question: are we able to create some book like this? And would be users interested to buy/use it? Jan -- Macs are for those who don't want to know why their computer works. Linux is for those who want to know why their computer works. DOS is for those who want to know why their computer doesn't work. Windows is for those who don't want to know why their computer doesn't work.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Jan Kraljič wrote:

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Hello,

i think it would be great to have some basic documentation published.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen ) http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf (paper )

Is not what you had in mind?

Pretty much something like that. (Paper version) I believe that no one would print this on printer. So I wonder if there would be interest for published book? Regards, Jan -- Macs are for those who don't want to know why their computer works. Linux is for those who want to know why their computer works. DOS is for those who want to know why their computer doesn't work. Windows is for those who don't want to know why their computer doesn't work.

Hi all, Indeed the documents mentioned by Taco are great, but some time ago there was a discussion on the list about an update of those manuals (dating from 1999, according to the colofon) and about how we users can contribute to the job by finding the possible bugs, errors, misprints, etc. But us far as I know we, at least I, didn't do anything… Now in my opinion the idea of having a book is a good one: for instance many of my students when writing reports and theses ask me about a book on TeX or LaTeX, even though there are many electronic documents about them freely available. Our library has the books by Donald Knuth, Leslie Lamport and Raymond Séroul among others, and if there were a book about ConTeXt I would certainly order at least two for our library and one for myself. For making ConTeXt more popular among mathematicians (or other academic users) I think it is good to have books about it in libraries, since at first students look for books before sticking to one of TeX flavors. Best regards: OK On 6 févr. 08, at 10:50, PChot wrote:

On Feb 6, 2008 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

...

Hello,

i think it would be great to have some basic documentation

Jan Kraljič wrote: published.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen ) http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf (paper )

Is not what you had in mind?

Pretty much something like that. (Paper version)

I believe that no one would print this on printer. So I wonder if there would be interest for published book?

Regards, Jan

-- Macs are for those who don't want to know why their computer works. Linux is for those who want to know why their computer works. DOS is for those who want to know why their computer doesn't work. Windows is for those who don't want to know why their computer doesn't work. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

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OK, I see there is interest in users for book. What is Hans saying on this idea? I belive printing and selling wont be such a problem. I think about 1000 copies can be sold. Firstly we must prepare the book. If there is interest, i'll push this idea forward. So first step, What is not correct written in pdf ( http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf)? All suggestion welcomed!! And all suggestion what should be, is missing? Regards, Jan -- Macs are for those who don't want to know why their computer works. Linux is for those who want to know why their computer works. DOS is for those who want to know why their computer doesn't work. Windows is for those who don't want to know why their computer doesn't work.

So first step, What is not correct written in pdf ( http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf)? All suggestion welcomed!! And all suggestion what should be, is missing?

I suppose you should start with http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Revision_and_translations_of_%E2%80%9CConTeXt%...