I haven't used bibliographies before and have a few basic questions. I am using mkiv, current version: 2011.04.03 22:32. 1. If I interpret the wiki pages correctly, the bib module is not needed for mkiv. On the other hand, examples I found in the archive have "\usemodule[bib]" included, although (I think) they were meant for mkiv, and leaving it out didn't affect the outcome. Question: has \usemodule[bib] no function in mkiv, never? 2. Where can I get documentation? Can Taco's bib-module documentation still be used? (In my experiments in some cases, not in others). 3. The "very basic example" on contextgarden (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv#Example_of_use) gave numbers in the text and an alphabetic list at the end. I added "\setuppublications[alternative=apa]". Would that be the way to do it? Please change it if there is something better (according to bibmod-doc, apa should be default). Thanks, Jörg
Am 14.04.2011 um 15:20 schrieb Hagmann Jörg:
I haven't used bibliographies before and have a few basic questions. I am using mkiv, current version: 2011.04.03 22:32.
1. If I interpret the wiki pages correctly, the bib module is not needed for mkiv. On the other hand, examples I found in the archive have "\usemodule[bib]" included, although (I think) they were meant for mkiv, and leaving it out didn't affect the outcome. Question: has \usemodule[bib] no function in mkiv, never?
The bibliography code was first a separate module which had been loaded with \usemodule[bib] but a while ago Hans added the code to contexts core. It’s no longer necessary to load a extra module for the functionality and when you have \usemodule[bib] in your document the line produce only a line at the console with the text “skipping obsolete module”.
2. Where can I get documentation? Can Taco's bib-module documentation still be used? (In my experiments in some cases, not in others).
The manual is now available at the wiki: http://modules.contextgarden.net/bibman Wolfgang
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
Am 14.04.2011 um 15:20 schrieb Hagmann Jörg:
I haven't used bibliographies before and have a few basic questions. I am using mkiv, current version: 2011.04.03 22:32.
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2. Where can I get documentation? Can Taco's bib-module documentation still be used? (In my experiments in some cases, not in others).
The manual is now available at the wiki: http://modules.contextgarden.net/bibman
In TeX Live 2010, "texdoc bibmod" finds a 284752 byte bibmod-doc.pdf
that is identical to the one available from the above URL.
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George N. White III
Thanks, Wolfgang - and a follow-up question: I have no time for a minimal example - if there is no quick and obvious answer, tell me and I'll prepare one later. I have numbers in the text and want \invertedshortauthor in the publicationlist. But I get "First Name-Initial-Surname..." no matter what I try. If I have Name-Year in the text, it comes out the way I want it. I tried, e.g.: ----------------- \setupbibtex[database={manuscript}] \setuppublications[alternative=num,criterium=text,sorttype=cite] \setuppublicationlist[author={\invertedshortauthor}] %should be default anyway? \starttext \placepublications[criterium=text] \stoptext ----------------- Thanks, Jörg On Apr 14, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
I haven't used bibliographies before and have a few basic questions. I am using mkiv, current version: 2011.04.03 22:32.
1. If I interpret the wiki pages correctly, the bib module is not needed for mkiv. On the other hand, examples I found in the archive have "\usemodule[bib]" included, although (I think) they were meant for mkiv, and leaving it out didn't affect the outcome. Question: has \usemodule[bib] no function in mkiv, never?
2. Where can I get documentation? Can Taco's bib-module documentation still be used? (In my experiments in some cases, not in others).
3. The "very basic example" on contextgarden (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv#Example_of_use) gave numbers in the text and an alphabetic list at the end. I added "\setuppublications[alternative=apa]". Would that be the way to do it? Please change it if there is something better (according to bibmod-doc, apa should be default).
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Using the attached minimal example with biblio.bib, how can I get an alphabetical publication-list with surname-Initials etc. when using numbers in the thext? Shouldn't that be default? It is when using authoryear in the text (comment/uncomment the relevant lines). mkiv, current version: 2011.04.03 22:32. Mac 10.6.7 Thanks, Jörg On Apr 28, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
Thanks, Wolfgang - and a follow-up question:
I have no time for a minimal example - if there is no quick and obvious answer, tell me and I'll prepare one later. I have numbers in the text and want \invertedshortauthor in the publicationlist. But I get "First Name-Initial-Surname..." no matter what I try. If I have Name-Year in the text, it comes out the way I want it.
I tried, e.g.: ----------------- \setupbibtex[database={manuscript}] \setuppublications[alternative=num,criterium=text,sorttype=cite]
\setuppublicationlist[author={\invertedshortauthor}] %should be default anyway?
\starttext \placepublications[criterium=text] \stoptext -----------------
Thanks, Jörg
On 05/03/11 14:38, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
Using the attached minimal example with biblio.bib, how can I get an alphabetical publication-list with surname-Initials etc. when using numbers in the thext? Shouldn't that be default? It is when using authoryear in the text (comment/uncomment the relevant lines).
\setupbibtex[sort=author] Best wishes, Taco
Hi Taco, Thanks, but my problem is not sorting, it is the appearance of the references in the list of references. When using "\setuppublications[alternative=num,criterium=text,sorttype=cite]", I get the sequence "first name-surname- etc." no matter what I say in "setuppublicationlist[author=...]". When using "\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl]" , I get "surname-initials-etc." no matter what I say in "setuppublicationlist[author=...]". How can I control the publicationlist? Probably something trivial. Thanks, Jörg On May 4, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
On 05/03/11 14:38, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
Using the attached minimal example with biblio.bib, how can I get an alphabetical publication-list with surname-Initials etc. when using numbers in the thext? Shouldn't that be default? It is when using authoryear in the text (comment/uncomment the relevant lines).
\setupbibtex[sort=author]
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On 05/05/2011 02:24 PM, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
Hi Taco,
Thanks, but my problem is not sorting, it is the appearance of the references in the list of references.
When using "\setuppublications[alternative=num,criterium=text,sorttype=cite]", I get the sequence "first name-surname- etc." no matter what I say in "setuppublicationlist[author=...]".
When using "\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl]" , I get "surname-initials-etc." no matter what I say in "setuppublicationlist[author=...]".
How can I control the publicationlist? Probably something trivial.
Not really. The styles like 'num' and 'apa' follow predefined requirement by certain publishers, so they do thing in one particular way. If you want something else, you have to write a bibl-xxx.tex file (the existing ones are in tex/context/bib). Best wishes, Taco
On May 5, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
Hi Taco,
Thanks, but my problem is not sorting, it is the appearance of the references in the list of references.
When using "\setuppublications[alternative=num,criterium=text,sorttype=cite]", I get the sequence "first name-surname- etc." no matter what I say in "setuppublicationlist[author=...]".
When using "\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl]" , I get "surname-initials-etc." no matter what I say in "setuppublicationlist[author=...]".
How can I control the publicationlist? Probably something trivial.
Thanks, Jörg
Have you seen the examples on p. 4-5 of the documentation of Taco's module? I don't have time to look at your examples, I can just give you code snippets from what I use, and it works: \def\myinvertedauthor#1#2#3#4#5% {#3\bibalternative{surnamesep}% \bibdoif{#4}{#4\unskip}% \bibdoifelse{#2}{\bibalternative{vonsep}#2\unskip}{\unskip}% \bibdoifelse{#5}{\bibalternative{juniorsep}#5\unskip}{\unskip}% } \setuppublicationlist [width=24pt, artauthor=\myinvertedauthor, editor=\myinvertedauthor, author=\myinvertedauthor] HTH Thomas
Hi Taco and Thomas, Thank you very much for both the explanations and the solution. Jörg On May 5, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On May 5, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
Hi Taco,
Thanks, but my problem is not sorting, it is the appearance of the references in the list of references.
When using "\setuppublications[alternative=num,criterium=text,sorttype=cite]", I get the sequence "first name-surname- etc." no matter what I say in "setuppublicationlist[author=...]".
When using "\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl]" , I get "surname-initials-etc." no matter what I say in "setuppublicationlist[author=...]".
How can I control the publicationlist? Probably something trivial.
Thanks, Jörg
Have you seen the examples on p. 4-5 of the documentation of Taco's module? I don't have time to look at your examples, I can just give you code snippets from what I use, and it works:
\def\myinvertedauthor#1#2#3#4#5% {#3\bibalternative{surnamesep}% \bibdoif{#4}{#4\unskip}% \bibdoifelse{#2}{\bibalternative{vonsep}#2\unskip}{\unskip}% \bibdoifelse{#5}{\bibalternative{juniorsep}#5\unskip}{\unskip}% }
\setuppublicationlist [width=24pt, artauthor=\myinvertedauthor, editor=\myinvertedauthor, author=\myinvertedauthor]
HTH
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Wolfgang Schuster