Adam Duck wrote:

Hello ConTeXters,

my girlfriend writes her dimploma thesis now and I talked her into using ConTeXt, but now I'm not sure anymore that this was the right thing to do. So, the problems are numerous and some of them are:

- how do I set the spacing between a vertical line (between two columns) and the text inside that columns? I already used "framedoffest=-3pt", but the output is unacceptable. - how do I center the whole table? This one is really crucial: my GF also accepts hacks ;). - why doesn't \splitfloat{\placetable...} work with Natural Tables? (They won't get splitted at all, but with tables and linetables it works...) - how do I refer to tables then?

I have chosen Natural Tables because they were the only one that splitted correctly (tables and linetables let out 2/3 of a page). So, that's all for now.

we need small examples showing/solving the problems Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Vit Zyka wrote:

Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote:

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Am Sonntag, den 14.08.2005, 17:17 +0200 schrieb Adam Duck:

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- how do I set the spacing between a vertical line (between two columns) and the text inside that columns? I already used "framedoffest=-3pt", but the output is unacceptable.

Spacing is a weak point of natural tables. Afaik, there is no good way to tune spacing. I would try using dummy colums like \bTD[width=1em]\eTD.

Yes, I was also thinking about that. Perhaps adding lefttext= and righttext= params to \framed (since table cell is framed) solves some problem.

Imagine: \setupTABLE[column][1,2][align=right,lefttext=\hskip.5em] or \setupTABLE[column][3][align=left,righttext=\hskip5pt$\bullet$] ... \bTABLE

\eTABLE

probably a distance parameter then (unrelated to framed); it's slightly more complex than you think because we need to take spans into account (so it shows up in prerolls etc) but it's doable HAns ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Adam Duck wrote:

Eckhart Guthöhrlein writes:

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Am Sonntag, den 14.08.2005, 17:17 +0200 schrieb Adam Duck:

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- how do I set the spacing between a vertical line (between two columns) and the text inside that columns? I already used "framedoffest=-3pt", but the output is unacceptable.

Spacing is a weak point of natural tables. Afaik, there is no good way to tune spacing. I would try using dummy colums like \bTD[width=1em]\eTD.

OK, That sounds reasonable. I'll try that. On the other hand this means many \bTD<something>\eTD ... but one can write a macro for that, I think.

a next release will support: \input core-ntb-new.tex \starttext \showframe \setupTABLE[c][1][distance=2em] \setupTABLE[c][2][distance=3em] \bTABLE \bTR \bTD test \eTD \bTD test \eTD \bTD test \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD[nx=2] test \eTD \bTD test \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD test \eTD \bTD[nx=2] test \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \bTABLE[option=stretch] \bTR \bTD test \eTD \bTD test \eTD \bTD test \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD[nx=2] test \eTD \bTD test \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD test \eTD \bTD[nx=2] test \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Adam Duck wrote:

Hans Hagen writes:

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a next release will support:

This is mighty cool! I don't want to be impolite, but when will this be? The deadline for my girlfriend's thesis is approaching fast ...

soon, for the moment just \input the file i sent you

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\setupTABLE[c][1][distance=2em] \setupTABLE[c][2][distance=3em]

Will this be both: the distance to the left and the right frame?

you set distances after the column (so, [c][1] means "after column 1" with the last column ignored; doing left/right take a bit more code and time so maybe some day Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hans Hagen wrote:

Adam Duck wrote:

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Hans Hagen writes:

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a next release will support:

This is mighty cool! I don't want to be impolite, but when will this be? The deadline for my girlfriend's thesis is approaching fast ...

soon, for the moment just \input the file i sent you

That is needed improvement of natural tables, thanks Hans. --- - In my vz-new.tex is another simple improvement of nat tables. Perhaps it can be also incorporated: ---------------------------------- \long\def\parseTH[#1]#2\eTH {\parseTD[#1,\c!color=\tbltblheadcolor,\c!style=\tbltblheadstyle, \c!align=\tbltblheadalign,\c!aligncharacter=\v!no]#2\eTD} ---------------------------------- See additional \c!align=\tbltblheadalign - and what about nc=max? = Span as much as columns as there are to the end of line. vit